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After Englands lackluster performance in the last 2 games will they win?
I'm not sure.
Will the formation be the same and will Owen return to the squad or not?
Again not sure.
Discuss.
I'm not sure.
Will the formation be the same and will Owen return to the squad or not?
Again not sure.
Discuss.
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Ant wrote:
> I think Stuart Pearce should be the next England manager, although I
> certainly think he suits the club game.
Would have been hilarious to see his reactions on the touchline during the game. Probably would have gone on the pitch and smacked Rooney himself
> I think Stuart Pearce should be the next England manager, although I
> certainly think he suits the club game.
Would have been hilarious to see his reactions on the touchline during the game. Probably would have gone on the pitch and smacked Rooney himself
What you need is Mike Basset.
Chelsea :- 4 English Players
Arsenal :- 2
Meanwhile Manchester United and Blackburn where British players feature heavily... both won the premiership with a british manager.
Of course in reality it comes down to money...
How many ENGLISH managers have had the money Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson has had to spend...
Newcastle to a lesser extent and they did best with Keegan in charge.
Arsenal :- 2
Meanwhile Manchester United and Blackburn where British players feature heavily... both won the premiership with a british manager.
Of course in reality it comes down to money...
How many ENGLISH managers have had the money Wenger, Mourinho and Ferguson has had to spend...
Newcastle to a lesser extent and they did best with Keegan in charge.
I think there's much more to it than that. If that were the case, then why don't English managers win the Premiership?
European managers work well mainly because there are so many European players.
Of course just as many scotish managers have won the premiership as European so maybe that's saying something.
Of course just as many scotish managers have won the premiership as European so maybe that's saying something.
I think Stuart Pearce should be the next England manager, although I certainly think he suits the club game.
He is one of my favourite managers at the moment, he's tough, disciplined and full of heart, but also very down to earth and will always come out and back his players both publically and on the pitch.
He is one of my favourite managers at the moment, he's tough, disciplined and full of heart, but also very down to earth and will always come out and back his players both publically and on the pitch.
Hell, no English manager has ever won the Premier League - the last year of the old first division Leeds United won it under Howard Wilkinson, and he was employed by the FA for an eternity. He had brief caretaker spells as England manager too.
So which English manager has a trophy to their name?
McClaren and the League Cup with Middlesborough and, er... was it Joe Royle at Everton when they won the FA Cup..?
So which English manager has a trophy to their name?
McClaren and the League Cup with Middlesborough and, er... was it Joe Royle at Everton when they won the FA Cup..?
Yeah, fair point but if you look at the top world class managers - Mourinho, Fergerson, Benitez etc. they're not English. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of good English managers out there, but are any of them England material?
Maybe Bobby Robson.
Maybe Bobby Robson.
J-42 wrote:
> It seems that european managers are better than English. (Apart from
> Alf Ramsey.)
Brian Clough? Bobby Robson? I don't really see that foreign managers are better than English managers or vice versa. They have different styles, but I think there are enough good English managers to choose from. I mean Sam Allardyce, Bryan Robson, Alan Curbishley, Stuart Pearce...
> It seems that european managers are better than English. (Apart from
> Alf Ramsey.)
Brian Clough? Bobby Robson? I don't really see that foreign managers are better than English managers or vice versa. They have different styles, but I think there are enough good English managers to choose from. I mean Sam Allardyce, Bryan Robson, Alan Curbishley, Stuart Pearce...
Foreman wrote:
Really you need a
> 4-3-3 formation like Man United are playing.
YTes, but it's taken a season and this pre-season for it to really kick into gear. There's not the time for England to work on this now. Where Rooney and Ronaldo have developed an understanding, and Ruud's in the box instincts means he's going to get on the end of things, it's not the same with the players England have at their disposal. Yes Rooney's there, but Owen is too rusty at the moment to be up front on his own. SWP will play in a similar position for Chelsea, with a lone striker, but it's early days for him. If we were at the start of a qualifying campaign, it would be worth building this up, but I simply don't think there's time for the England players to use it successfully together.
As you were saying, they should stick to a formation that worked. 4-4-2. If they brought Defoe in for Owen against Wales, I can't see how the shape would have been that different. Beckham needs to be told to keep his discipline and remain on the right, or if you think his passing from the centre is going to hurt the opposition more, then drop Gerrard or Lampard and stick in a natural right-sided player. Like SWP.
Whilst having a number of highly talented midfielders should be an advantage, if they're all too similar we're going to be predictable, and their effectiveness will be negated.
Really you need a
> 4-3-3 formation like Man United are playing.
YTes, but it's taken a season and this pre-season for it to really kick into gear. There's not the time for England to work on this now. Where Rooney and Ronaldo have developed an understanding, and Ruud's in the box instincts means he's going to get on the end of things, it's not the same with the players England have at their disposal. Yes Rooney's there, but Owen is too rusty at the moment to be up front on his own. SWP will play in a similar position for Chelsea, with a lone striker, but it's early days for him. If we were at the start of a qualifying campaign, it would be worth building this up, but I simply don't think there's time for the England players to use it successfully together.
As you were saying, they should stick to a formation that worked. 4-4-2. If they brought Defoe in for Owen against Wales, I can't see how the shape would have been that different. Beckham needs to be told to keep his discipline and remain on the right, or if you think his passing from the centre is going to hurt the opposition more, then drop Gerrard or Lampard and stick in a natural right-sided player. Like SWP.
Whilst having a number of highly talented midfielders should be an advantage, if they're all too similar we're going to be predictable, and their effectiveness will be negated.
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