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GROUP A
1. Bayern Munich
2. Juventus
3. Club Bruges
4. Rapid Vienna
GROUP B
1. Arsenal
2. Ajax
3. Sparta Prague
4. FC Thun
GROUP C
1. Barcelona
2. Panathinaikos
3. Werder Bremen
4. Udinese
GROUP D
1. Man United
2. Villareal
3. Lille
4. Benfica
GROUP E
1. AC Milan
2. PSV Eindhoven
3. Schalke
4. Fenerbache
GROUP F
1. Real Madrid
2. Lyon
3. Olympiakos
4. Rosenbourg
GROUP G
1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Anderlecht
4. Real Betis
GROUP H
1. Inter Milan
2. Porto
3. Rangers
4. Bratislavia
1. Bayern Munich
2. Juventus
3. Club Bruges
4. Rapid Vienna
GROUP B
1. Arsenal
2. Ajax
3. Sparta Prague
4. FC Thun
GROUP C
1. Barcelona
2. Panathinaikos
3. Werder Bremen
4. Udinese
GROUP D
1. Man United
2. Villareal
3. Lille
4. Benfica
GROUP E
1. AC Milan
2. PSV Eindhoven
3. Schalke
4. Fenerbache
GROUP F
1. Real Madrid
2. Lyon
3. Olympiakos
4. Rosenbourg
GROUP G
1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Anderlecht
4. Real Betis
GROUP H
1. Inter Milan
2. Porto
3. Rangers
4. Bratislavia
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From what I heard, Rangers were on the backfoot against Famagusta, long before they found a break and took a chance to get the first goal.
If that were a serious European team, even FC Porto, then they could've been wrapped up and burried within the first half-hour.
When are Scottish teams ever any good in European competition?
If that were a serious European team, even FC Porto, then they could've been wrapped up and burried within the first half-hour.
When are Scottish teams ever any good in European competition?
Rangers will beat Porto. Porto had a good team until they sold it all.
Maniche, Costinha, Deco, Paulo Ferreira, Carvalho...
And they only replaced Deco. Admittedly, with the almighty Diego.
Maniche, Costinha, Deco, Paulo Ferreira, Carvalho...
And they only replaced Deco. Admittedly, with the almighty Diego.
Oswaldo! wrote:
> Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions'
> League least season!?
Watch the 2nd half of the Olympiacos game? Ya happen to see the first half hour of the Juventus game? When after we got a 2 goal cushion we tried to defend it. Bayern Leverkusen? Liverpool attacked for most of that game. The begining of the Chelsea game until Garcia scored (ok for all of about 5 mins). Beginning of the second half against Milan in the final. When we have to we can play some damn good attacking football.
> I totally agree that is the way the should be playing though. No
> matter who you are, or who you're up against, I doubt believe you can
> afford to sit-back for one-second until you have a three-goal lead.
Aint gonna get 3 goals againt Juventus so 2 is alright to sit back on.
> If you play a very defensive game, always waiting for them to
> strike first, all you're doing is simply letting the opposition
> attack you. Why not put some serious pressure on them from the start?
> DENY them making contact with the ball. Close-down every man who
> receives the ball. Do not give them even a glimpse of goal. Keep them
> in their own half. Defend high up the pitch, unlike England. Attack in
> numbers. Use the width of the pitch. Stretch the back four, pull apart
> gaping holes for Cissé to exploit with his great pace.
>
> I believe this is partly why so many teams seem to fall at the knees
> of teams like Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal. They think they can
> beat them by the counter-attack. Playing it safe. Playing to defend
> first, attack... IF we get a chance.
>
> But look at the way United and Arsenal played in both league fixtures
> last season. Fantastic stuff! And who came off the better side? Who
> was struggling to maintain their so-called "title
> challenge", eh?
In the Premiership at home we attacked pretty most of the game against Arsenal in th PL and won. We attacked against Chelsea in the PL who were lucky not to lose never mind win with their dirty deflected goal and 2 fouls not given in the penalty area. Against Man Utd well we pretty much sucked.
The only time we really fail to attack against the bigger teams at home or Carling Cup final is when Liverpool scored early goals and sit back on them.
liverpool can play class attacking football against strong teams. Its the teams like Newcastle, Middlesborough, Man City where we don't really give our all.
Away from home is a different story altogether though.
> Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions'
> League least season!?
Watch the 2nd half of the Olympiacos game? Ya happen to see the first half hour of the Juventus game? When after we got a 2 goal cushion we tried to defend it. Bayern Leverkusen? Liverpool attacked for most of that game. The begining of the Chelsea game until Garcia scored (ok for all of about 5 mins). Beginning of the second half against Milan in the final. When we have to we can play some damn good attacking football.
> I totally agree that is the way the should be playing though. No
> matter who you are, or who you're up against, I doubt believe you can
> afford to sit-back for one-second until you have a three-goal lead.
Aint gonna get 3 goals againt Juventus so 2 is alright to sit back on.
> If you play a very defensive game, always waiting for them to
> strike first, all you're doing is simply letting the opposition
> attack you. Why not put some serious pressure on them from the start?
> DENY them making contact with the ball. Close-down every man who
> receives the ball. Do not give them even a glimpse of goal. Keep them
> in their own half. Defend high up the pitch, unlike England. Attack in
> numbers. Use the width of the pitch. Stretch the back four, pull apart
> gaping holes for Cissé to exploit with his great pace.
>
> I believe this is partly why so many teams seem to fall at the knees
> of teams like Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal. They think they can
> beat them by the counter-attack. Playing it safe. Playing to defend
> first, attack... IF we get a chance.
>
> But look at the way United and Arsenal played in both league fixtures
> last season. Fantastic stuff! And who came off the better side? Who
> was struggling to maintain their so-called "title
> challenge", eh?
In the Premiership at home we attacked pretty most of the game against Arsenal in th PL and won. We attacked against Chelsea in the PL who were lucky not to lose never mind win with their dirty deflected goal and 2 fouls not given in the penalty area. Against Man Utd well we pretty much sucked.
The only time we really fail to attack against the bigger teams at home or Carling Cup final is when Liverpool scored early goals and sit back on them.
liverpool can play class attacking football against strong teams. Its the teams like Newcastle, Middlesborough, Man City where we don't really give our all.
Away from home is a different story altogether though.
Oswaldo! wrote:
> Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions'
> League last season!?
For around ten minutes in the final.
> Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions'
> League last season!?
For around ten minutes in the final.
Rangers aren't very good I'm afraid.
KOPKING wrote:
"I can definatley see the 'pool prgressing. At home they will go all out and attack except when they play Chelsea where it will be defend-counter attack."
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Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions' League least season!?
Even in this season so far, he's played with one striker up-top, one in support - yet it only seems to be that, when he's played, Steven Gerrard is the only man to get forward! :)
I totally agree that is the way the should be playing though. No matter who you are, or who you're up against, I doubt believe you can afford to sit-back for one-second until you have a three-goal lead.
If you play a very defensive game, always waiting for them to strike first, all you're doing is simply letting the opposition attack you. Why not put some serious pressure on them from the start? DENY them making contact with the ball. Close-down every man who receives the ball. Do not give them even a glimpse of goal. Keep them in their own half. Defend high up the pitch, unlike England. Attack in numbers. Use the width of the pitch. Stretch the back four, pull apart gaping holes for Cissé to exploit with his great pace.
I believe this is partly why so many teams seem to fall at the knees of teams like Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal. They think they can beat them by the counter-attack. Playing it safe. Playing to defend first, attack... IF we get a chance.
But look at the way United and Arsenal played in both league fixtures last season. Fantastic stuff! And who came off the better side? Who was struggling to maintain their so-called "title challenge", eh?
"I can definatley see the 'pool prgressing. At home they will go all out and attack except when they play Chelsea where it will be defend-counter attack."
---
Heh, when did Liverpool EVER go all-out-attack in the Champions' League least season!?
Even in this season so far, he's played with one striker up-top, one in support - yet it only seems to be that, when he's played, Steven Gerrard is the only man to get forward! :)
I totally agree that is the way the should be playing though. No matter who you are, or who you're up against, I doubt believe you can afford to sit-back for one-second until you have a three-goal lead.
If you play a very defensive game, always waiting for them to strike first, all you're doing is simply letting the opposition attack you. Why not put some serious pressure on them from the start? DENY them making contact with the ball. Close-down every man who receives the ball. Do not give them even a glimpse of goal. Keep them in their own half. Defend high up the pitch, unlike England. Attack in numbers. Use the width of the pitch. Stretch the back four, pull apart gaping holes for Cissé to exploit with his great pace.
I believe this is partly why so many teams seem to fall at the knees of teams like Chelsea, Man United and Arsenal. They think they can beat them by the counter-attack. Playing it safe. Playing to defend first, attack... IF we get a chance.
But look at the way United and Arsenal played in both league fixtures last season. Fantastic stuff! And who came off the better side? Who was struggling to maintain their so-called "title challenge", eh?
Oswaldo! wrote:
> "GOOD LUCK!!!" is, sadly, the best wishes I feel I
> can send any Rangers fans out there
Inter Milan
Porto
Rangers
are all the challengers to progress but i recon it will be inter and rangers progress
> "GOOD LUCK!!!" is, sadly, the best wishes I feel I
> can send any Rangers fans out there
Inter Milan
Porto
Rangers
are all the challengers to progress but i recon it will be inter and rangers progress
Assuncao will score a free kick against either Liverpool or Chelsea. I'd put lots of money on that happening.
Oh, and looks like another group for Juve to completely dominate. They beat Bayern twice 1-0 last time, and they've got two other pishy teams to make up the 4, so looks like another unbeaten run for them.
Oh, and looks like another group for Juve to completely dominate. They beat Bayern twice 1-0 last time, and they've got two other pishy teams to make up the 4, so looks like another unbeaten run for them.
My Prediction of Group G
I can definatley see the 'pool prgressing. At home they will go all out and attack except when they play Chelsea where it will be defend-counter attack.
Anderlect - Win home and draw away aginst them. Used to be a quite a good team but aren't that strong at the moment.
Real Betis - Rafa's knowledge of Spanish football should guide Liverpool to two wins against Betis. Even with the wonders of Joaquin.
Chelsea - Lose at Stamford Bridge and win at Anfield. Both very tight games but that's the outcome I predict.(Just read that Liverpool and Chelsea play each other twice in 4 days at Anfield!)
Chelsea will win all of their games against Betis and Anderlect.
Group 6
1.Chelsea
2.Liverpool
3.Real Betis
4.Anderlect
I can definatley see the 'pool prgressing. At home they will go all out and attack except when they play Chelsea where it will be defend-counter attack.
Anderlect - Win home and draw away aginst them. Used to be a quite a good team but aren't that strong at the moment.
Real Betis - Rafa's knowledge of Spanish football should guide Liverpool to two wins against Betis. Even with the wonders of Joaquin.
Chelsea - Lose at Stamford Bridge and win at Anfield. Both very tight games but that's the outcome I predict.(Just read that Liverpool and Chelsea play each other twice in 4 days at Anfield!)
Chelsea will win all of their games against Betis and Anderlect.
Group 6
1.Chelsea
2.Liverpool
3.Real Betis
4.Anderlect
Interesting the world of football is.
If a team wins then you point out what went their way to help that fact, not what went against them.
If a team loses you look at what went against them and not what went for them.
Liverpool's goal wasn't a goal. Chelsea still didn't get a shot on target... hmmmmm.
If a team wins then you point out what went their way to help that fact, not what went against them.
If a team loses you look at what went against them and not what went for them.
Liverpool's goal wasn't a goal. Chelsea still didn't get a shot on target... hmmmmm.
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