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"Champion's League Draw"

GROUP A

1. Bayern Munich
2. Juventus
3. Club Bruges
4. Rapid Vienna

GROUP B

1. Arsenal
2. Ajax
3. Sparta Prague
4. FC Thun

GROUP C

1. Barcelona
2. Panathinaikos
3. Werder Bremen
4. Udinese

GROUP D

1. Man United
2. Villareal
3. Lille
4. Benfica

GROUP E

1. AC Milan
2. PSV Eindhoven
3. Schalke
4. Fenerbache

GROUP F

1. Real Madrid
2. Lyon
3. Olympiakos
4. Rosenbourg

GROUP G

1. Liverpool
2. Chelsea
3. Anderlecht
4. Real Betis

GROUP H

1. Inter Milan
2. Porto
3. Rangers
4. Bratislavia

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Huh, mostly fear Rangers, eh?

They'll probably try the hardest against us then :(

Scottish teams do exceptionally well considering that in transfer fees over the summer, the clubs have averaged less than 1 million each (And 7 million or so of fees came from Celtic, the other 5 million or so between 11 teams).

Bloody hell. Well we didn't get the Group of Death, did we!?

Still, I'm betting Jose's boys ain't looking forward to playing in that group either. I still think the two English sides will progress, though.

And y'know, even though Arsenal have the easiest group in the history of European football...they'll still have to scrape through in second thanks to a Pascal wonder strike in the final minutes of the last game.

Scottish teams do well considering they dont play the best teams they have to play scottish teams who dont have the best players.

Scottish teams do bloody well considering... they're Scottish.

Rangers always used to get humped of Juve though if I remember

Oh yeah "hur hur Rangers got put out of teh Champions League by crappy crappy CSKA Moscow!"

Yeha, but they won the UEFA cup, didn't they?
And Rangers came awfully close to beating them as well.

And I seem to remember them being knocked out by Parma and Valencia, who both went on and did well in the competition

Oswaldo! wrote:
> When are Scottish teams ever any good in European competition?

Uh, Celtic, Uefa Cup final, put out by Porto (funnily enough) two years ago?
Rangers, Champions League semi-final, put out by a cheating (and had teh trophy taken off of tehm) Marseille?

Oswaldo! wrote:
> When are Scottish teams ever any good in European competition?

Two years ago Celtic got the UEFA Cup final. Surely that counts for something. And a few years before that Rangers were in a period in which they were consistently very good in Europe.

And also, if you heard that Rangers struggled against Famagusta, then you heard very wrongly/were lied to.

Aggregate 4-1, not exactly a struggle

I just remembered, Inter will be playing their home games in an empty San Siro, so they won't even have a real home advantage. I'm not sure whether that will help, as each team in that gorups is far inferior to them, but it might let them drop points.

I think it will be very close between Rangers and Porto as to who'll go through, but I can see Rangers possibly getting a point against Inter at home, if Farfan and Rodriguez sort out their partnership.