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And just to add to it, the release of the film pretty much lands on my birthday ! The old film is one of my favourites so its cool to have the new one arrive for my birthday. ;-)
I've been watching trailers for it since around Christmas time, but I've managed to avoid seeing this one thats supposedly doing the rounds online that shows the Martian war machines. Don't want to see them in all their glory till I see the film. :-)
Gonna be going on Thursday 30th June seeing as they start showing the film in Basildon a day early. ;-)
Shame the Pentdragon one looks like it's going to suck absolute ballox.
Go read this [URL]http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671033891/ref=br_lf_b_3/026-9490000-1988460[/URL]
You'll enjoy it. whats the point of bitching on about a movie that you can't change?
> Is the Artilleryman just a character?
The artilleryman was in the first fight against the martians, a fight which if I remember correctly (I haven't read it for a while now) manages to take down one of the martian scout machines.
The main character and the artilleryman change paths and end up meeting each other near the end of the story. He's slightly mad and thinks that with a little help, he can start an underground city that humans can live in until they capture a martian machine to use it against them.
The main character, thankfully, doesn't share his view.
As for the book questions - the Thunderchild is a warship that comes to the rescue of a steamboat that is about to be attacked. It blasts one Martian, rams a second then if I remember right, collides with a third, all guns blazing and thats where it meets its end. A great fight which I doubt we'll ever see on a film version because of a few reasons.
The Artilleryman is a character the lead character meets early on in the Martian attack. He is the sole survivor of his battalion and makes his way back to a barracks. Later on hes encountered again and shares his views on the Martians and his idea of the underground world. For all his vision though, the efforts in making them work doesn't quite compare.
> I'm not saying the film has to be the same word for word, or even in
> the same year. What I'm saying is that key things should be kept
> such as the ending, the cylinders and that its not reduced to an
> America saves the world film (and yes I know the new film doesn't do
> the America saves the world bit, I'm saying that no version should
> ever reduce it to that).
>
> Again, I'm a fan of the old film which didn't follow the book word
> for word - but it still kept the core of the story. I found this to
> be more of a film about a father and his two annoying kids whining at
> eachother with Martians occasionally rudely interuppting their
> arguements.
>
> The film isn't crap, I just don't see why Spielberg had to come up
> with a whole new arrival for the Martians when the existing one was
> great and would have looked amazing with the effects that are done
> now. At least Jeff Wayne is making the CGI version I suppose, but I
> was hoping Spielbergs big budget version was gonna deliver the
> version of the story I've been dying to see. Unfortunatly, thats not
> the case and I'll be hoping someone else does oneday.
>
> At the end of the day, George Lucas made the Star Wars story and no
> matter what people think of episodes 1, 2 and 3, the story is Lucas'
> vision and his story. When you take an existing story, you take
> someone elses vision and chances are that that story has some form of
> fanbase who know the story inside out and will be really eager to see
> it on the big screen in all its glory with great effects.
> When the director takes his own route on key moments, there will be
> people that are disappointed - such as me in this case and the
> disappointment can increase when you've been waiting a long time to
> see it.
Maybe they should have just composited Tom Cruise's face into the old one? Would that have made you happy? It's a different film, by different people, for different people, using different film-making methods, with a different director and actors and everything! Different!
Thunderchild is the steamboat that manages to ram a few tripods, right? A modern-day scene like that would have been super-awesome yay!
Is the Artilleryman just a character?
Again, I'm a fan of the old film which didn't follow the book word for word - but it still kept the core of the story. I found this to be more of a film about a father and his two annoying kids whining at eachother with Martians occasionally rudely interuppting their arguements.
The film isn't crap, I just don't see why Spielberg had to come up with a whole new arrival for the Martians when the existing one was great and would have looked amazing with the effects that are done now. At least Jeff Wayne is making the CGI version I suppose, but I was hoping Spielbergs big budget version was gonna deliver the version of the story I've been dying to see. Unfortunatly, thats not the case and I'll be hoping someone else does oneday.
At the end of the day, George Lucas made the Star Wars story and no matter what people think of episodes 1, 2 and 3, the story is Lucas' vision and his story. When you take an existing story, you take someone elses vision and chances are that that story has some form of fanbase who know the story inside out and will be really eager to see it on the big screen in all its glory with great effects.
When the director takes his own route on key moments, there will be people that are disappointed - such as me in this case and the disappointment can increase when you've been waiting a long time to see it.
Still quite cool to listen to. They've just introduced that thicko character who thinks he can build an underground city, although he hasn't made a dick of himself yet he was just describing the machines.