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***DO NOT READ IF HEAVILY RELIGIOUS AND THEREFORE OFFENDED BY EVERYTHING***
I'm sorry about moaning so much on such a lovely Sunday afternoon, and who knows, maybe the heat has got me in a state where I'm annoyed far too easily, but I thought this had to be said:
Religious people (aimed primarily at people who have extreme Christian beliefs) and idiots who campaign against any form of media that contains even slight amounts of mature content, please shut up. Why are you offended by absolutely everything? Why do you seek to get all computer games that aren't specially made (and therefore crap) Christian titles banned? Why do you see it necessary to force your opinions on to everyone else? Why do you write 5-page letters of complaint about games that you haven't even played?
Reading up on the internet on a Christian organisation's reviews of games, I was actually offended at some of the complete and total rubbish they wrote. Check out these quotes:
In a review of Gran Turismo 3: "..the soundtrack of rock music may concern..."
Right. So that's the soundtrack that contains no explicit or offensive lyrics at all, then?
In a review of Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee: "I cannot recommend the game to anyone less than 17 years old."
Erm...why?
"...the game is filled with occultic overtones, shamans, chanting, resurrecting the dead..."
It's a bloody game!
The quotes were taken from: http://christiananswers.net/spotlight/games
Mary Whitehouse was another one who really annoyed me. I remember watching a clip of her on a programme during C4's 'banned season' where she accused people who enjoy watching violent or offensive films as "lacking in intelligence". I see that as being kind of ironic coming from a raging homophobe.
But then, I guess these kind of people are too stupid to realise that the more fuss they stir up, the better the game/film they are trying to ban will sell.
Nevertheless, I hate them all.
I'm sorry about moaning so much on such a lovely Sunday afternoon, and who knows, maybe the heat has got me in a state where I'm annoyed far too easily, but I thought this had to be said:
Religious people (aimed primarily at people who have extreme Christian beliefs) and idiots who campaign against any form of media that contains even slight amounts of mature content, please shut up. Why are you offended by absolutely everything? Why do you seek to get all computer games that aren't specially made (and therefore crap) Christian titles banned? Why do you see it necessary to force your opinions on to everyone else? Why do you write 5-page letters of complaint about games that you haven't even played?
Reading up on the internet on a Christian organisation's reviews of games, I was actually offended at some of the complete and total rubbish they wrote. Check out these quotes:
In a review of Gran Turismo 3: "..the soundtrack of rock music may concern..."
Right. So that's the soundtrack that contains no explicit or offensive lyrics at all, then?
In a review of Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee: "I cannot recommend the game to anyone less than 17 years old."
Erm...why?
"...the game is filled with occultic overtones, shamans, chanting, resurrecting the dead..."
It's a bloody game!
The quotes were taken from: http://christiananswers.net/spotlight/games
Mary Whitehouse was another one who really annoyed me. I remember watching a clip of her on a programme during C4's 'banned season' where she accused people who enjoy watching violent or offensive films as "lacking in intelligence". I see that as being kind of ironic coming from a raging homophobe.
But then, I guess these kind of people are too stupid to realise that the more fuss they stir up, the better the game/film they are trying to ban will sell.
Nevertheless, I hate them all.
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"Had "GTA3" allowed the player solve missions more peacefully it could’ve been far more rewarding."
Aha.
Aha.
Final Fantasy VII has themes relevant to this word in it, the main one being ecology. The idea that once you're dead you return to the earth is also correct and thats their objection, it's a direct contradiction of what they believe, add in a couple of demons and some magic...
Personally, I find it odd how something like a video game can be considered particularly heretic or occultic anyway.
Back to the section about Final Fantasy VII, I wonder howe many people, however young or however old, would play that game and believe that that is actuallythe way the world works. Anyone old enough to play and understand the game (for arguments sake, lets say over the age of 8 falls into this category) will firstly understand that it is made up and not real, and secondly will already have their own beliefs by then and no game is going to change it.
To quote Russel T Davis in an interview about the new Dr. Who series "Its not nine year old kids who believe aliens are real, its their nans." (or something similar)
The point is, no 8 year old kid who plays final fantasy seven is going to think that when you die your body and soul return to the lifestream, its only the grown-ups who see it that are going to worry their children may be affected in this way.
Personally, I don't care what they say. If they want to believe these games are blasphmous and reinforce "the lie of reincarnation" then fine. Who are we to argue with their beliefs? It doesnt affect my enjoyment of the games. My belief is that they're just games, there is no hidden meaning and God is not ever going to send you to the depths of hell for playing GTA.
Back to the section about Final Fantasy VII, I wonder howe many people, however young or however old, would play that game and believe that that is actuallythe way the world works. Anyone old enough to play and understand the game (for arguments sake, lets say over the age of 8 falls into this category) will firstly understand that it is made up and not real, and secondly will already have their own beliefs by then and no game is going to change it.
To quote Russel T Davis in an interview about the new Dr. Who series "Its not nine year old kids who believe aliens are real, its their nans." (or something similar)
The point is, no 8 year old kid who plays final fantasy seven is going to think that when you die your body and soul return to the lifestream, its only the grown-ups who see it that are going to worry their children may be affected in this way.
Personally, I don't care what they say. If they want to believe these games are blasphmous and reinforce "the lie of reincarnation" then fine. Who are we to argue with their beliefs? It doesnt affect my enjoyment of the games. My belief is that they're just games, there is no hidden meaning and God is not ever going to send you to the depths of hell for playing GTA.
I know Jesus would enjoy GTA3. Sure he might get angsty about it, but he'd be mowing down ho's and pimps with the best of us.
And when he gets busted, he'd wave his hand and say "I am not arrested" and magically appear at the safe house.
Actually, Jesus shouldn't play videogames at all. He'd be way too good at them and would have to change his name from Son of God to "R0XX0R HAXXOR"
And when he gets busted, he'd wave his hand and say "I am not arrested" and magically appear at the safe house.
Actually, Jesus shouldn't play videogames at all. He'd be way too good at them and would have to change his name from Son of God to "R0XX0R HAXXOR"
You say in your original rant that it's a extreme group, and yet you still refer to the fundamentalist Christians as just 'Christians' as if it were a label for all...
Again, I see nothing wrong with the site per se, it's just a concerned group sharing their opinions with each other...
Again, I see nothing wrong with the site per se, it's just a concerned group sharing their opinions with each other...
Del Rogeo wrote:
> They seem to see anything that has been generated by a person's
> imagination as being an 'occultic symbol'.
Well, anything they don't believe to be true. Or supernatural that isn't mentioned in the Bible (and so the conclude it's the devil's doing).
> And why do they find fantasy games like Zelda or FFVII so offensive?
> Are Christians somehow unable to distinguish between fiction and
> fact? But then, the one thing that they base their lives around is
> technically fiction as well. It cannot be proved, and therefore
> cannot be fact.
Hmmm...
If you read it then it does say that they enjoy them as games but realise that a parent might wish their child be good with the "facts" before they subject them to fantasy, apart from that attrocious "I saw my son play it for 15 minutes!!!" Goldeneye review.
Or not even that. They just remind a parent that the child might get mixed up in what they believe is true. So if you're trying to get a kid to grow up with particular beliefs, you're going to want to teach them what you think is true and what's not.
> One other thing as well. If violence is such a terrible, horrible
> thing that no Christians should view, then why does the bible contain
> so much of it?
Again, they don't say "don't play the games!!!", they say they love the games despite (apart from that muppet who reviewed Goldeneye) but warn parents who might not want their kids to become aquainted with violence before their time.
I find their ranting amusing but I'm blatantly a disrespectful muppet who's mocking the narrowness of their beliefs. Don't be trying to take the moral highground out of it! :-P
> They seem to see anything that has been generated by a person's
> imagination as being an 'occultic symbol'.
Well, anything they don't believe to be true. Or supernatural that isn't mentioned in the Bible (and so the conclude it's the devil's doing).
> And why do they find fantasy games like Zelda or FFVII so offensive?
> Are Christians somehow unable to distinguish between fiction and
> fact? But then, the one thing that they base their lives around is
> technically fiction as well. It cannot be proved, and therefore
> cannot be fact.
Hmmm...
If you read it then it does say that they enjoy them as games but realise that a parent might wish their child be good with the "facts" before they subject them to fantasy, apart from that attrocious "I saw my son play it for 15 minutes!!!" Goldeneye review.
Or not even that. They just remind a parent that the child might get mixed up in what they believe is true. So if you're trying to get a kid to grow up with particular beliefs, you're going to want to teach them what you think is true and what's not.
> One other thing as well. If violence is such a terrible, horrible
> thing that no Christians should view, then why does the bible contain
> so much of it?
Again, they don't say "don't play the games!!!", they say they love the games despite (apart from that muppet who reviewed Goldeneye) but warn parents who might not want their kids to become aquainted with violence before their time.
I find their ranting amusing but I'm blatantly a disrespectful muppet who's mocking the narrowness of their beliefs. Don't be trying to take the moral highground out of it! :-P
I chuckled at it. Didn't think it was worth mentioning though.
It knew someone would finally get it. Congratulations.
:-)
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I only just got the title.
Welldone.
Welldone.
They seem to see anything that has been generated by a person's imagination as being an 'occultic symbol'.
And why do they find fantasy games like Zelda or FFVII so offensive? Are Christians somehow unable to distinguish between fiction and fact? But then, the one thing that they base their lives around is technically fiction as well. It cannot be proved, and therefore cannot be fact.
One other thing as well. If violence is such a terrible, horrible thing that no Christians should view, then why does the bible contain so much of it?
And why do they find fantasy games like Zelda or FFVII so offensive? Are Christians somehow unable to distinguish between fiction and fact? But then, the one thing that they base their lives around is technically fiction as well. It cannot be proved, and therefore cannot be fact.
One other thing as well. If violence is such a terrible, horrible thing that no Christians should view, then why does the bible contain so much of it?
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