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Disgusting, it really is.
Original Message posted by ßulle†† Yesterday at 12.14PM Original Message
There are 27 replies
Drunk Illegal Immigrant, driving with no license or insurance, knocks down and kills a child and only gets..
8 weeks
And he's still in the Country, despite being here illegally.
Hurrah for justice.
After reading this post it made me want to know what you all think about illegal immigrants. I think it is wrong and because Britain used to be a strong dominating country should stand strong now and make sure no forign immigrants get into the UK. Look what what happens when they get in...
Original Message posted by ßulle†† Yesterday at 12.14PM Original Message
There are 27 replies
Drunk Illegal Immigrant, driving with no license or insurance, knocks down and kills a child and only gets..
8 weeks
And he's still in the Country, despite being here illegally.
Hurrah for justice.
After reading this post it made me want to know what you all think about illegal immigrants. I think it is wrong and because Britain used to be a strong dominating country should stand strong now and make sure no forign immigrants get into the UK. Look what what happens when they get in...
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Light wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
> So what your saying is i'm racist because someone like me would
> choose
> to live with other people from my own Country not saying I wouldn't
> talk to them, be abusive, say they have no right to be there or that
> they don't contribute. I would call that patriotic, by your logic
> that means I must be racist for buying British beef from my local
> butchers, or i'm racist because I didn't get a BMW because it's
> German.
>
> Well...no. I'm saying you're racist because of all the statements
> you're making that indicate that you feel anyone of a different
> ethnic group should be treated differently.
No, just people who abuse the system
That and the fact that,
> when I stated the chap involved in the immigration scam wasn't even
> an immigrant, you replied "rubbish, just look at him", thus
> making clear that you felt he couldn't be british because he wasn't
> white.
No, I asked you to have a proper read because when I saw the tape, it clearly indicates that he may well have came here illegally
>
> Do you see?
>
>
> Racism
>
> 1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics
> which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the
> idea
> that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or
> dominate
> others
>
>
> 2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race
> stemming from such a belief
>
> an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and
> ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that
> reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social,
> cultural and power inequalities in society.
>
> Well, over the course of the last few weeks you have;
>
> - Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around
> with their own" despite admitting you do the same
That is not racist
> - Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to
> abuse the system and stretch our services
Yes thats correct, the abusers. I'm not talking about the people who contribute am I.
> - You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't
> contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
Well the ones who don't contribute are, isn't that the way the system works, they need to prove they are not here to drain our services.
> - You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to
> society is inferior.
No i'm not, what i'm saying that with a system in place which stops or limits the abuses you here, they'll be much more than a £2 billion profit.
> - You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to
> that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not to
> work" than white people
Desperate now are you? I've never once said that whites are superior in any way, sure I claimed that immigrants are less likley to work, but thats only because it showed you in the graph, so if anything what your saying is the home office is racist?
>
> Not to mention the fact that you have stated you'd only spend social
> time with people of your own ethnic group. Out of
> "patriotism" apparently. Tell me, did you notice the other
> two posts in the thread stating that they felt you were a racist? Or
> don't they count when they disagree with you?
Well that may be because they took it the wrong way, just like yourself. Goodness sake that means that all the Jewish people who live near me are racist because they decided to live in the same place as each other when they first emmigrated here? You really are desperate now, isn't you?
>
> You know, if you actually read the definition you've just posted, and
> if you boosted your IQ to somewhere above room temperature, you'd see
> that you meet it exactly. You racist.
>
>
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
>
>
> So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone
> "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their
> skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid
> doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to
> hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I
> quote, "just look at him".
Explained above.
>
>
> I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2
> billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control.
>
> No; I'm saying it's an indicator the system is working.
Is it, that £2 billion says nothing aout the numbers does it! So as long as a company makes a profit, the way it's run doesn't matter? I'd love to see you go in to business with that frame of mind.
There are
> other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am
> I getting through to you, or would you like to continue demonstrating
> your abject prole idiocy?
>
> And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming)
>
> Oh, I don't claim that. The report that you linked to as proof
> immigrants were bad stated it was a myth. Remember?
Yeah, and I wonder what he'll say when I mention the same question to him?
>
> then that myth keeps
> popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go
> on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in
> the
> link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case.
>
> Know why it keeps popping up? Cos racists like you keep propogating
> it, despite the enormous weight of evidence to the contrary.
> One single scam (perpetrated by someone who isn't even an immigrant)
> proves beyond doubt? Only beyond the doubts of someone who had
> already made his mind up. To people with a passing interest in
> thinking, it proves that we need an open and honest debate, and that
> racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
One single scam, ok then could you please explain this...As a result of the student visa scam that was exposed during June 2004, the Government has undertaken a comprehensive programme to tackle bogus languages colleges. So far 672 suspected colleges have been visited, of which 178 were genuine, 195 were not and 299 colleges still require further investigation.
So what we have here is a system in place where there seems to be more bogus classes than the genuine ones. Would you now like to agree that the current system is not under control, or are you just going to ignore this like you have with every other example.
>
> I really know now
> that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
>
> Aww, did the poor ickle wacist get all upset? I agree though; relying
> on facts instead of bigotry IS sad. If you're a bigoted plebian who
> is angry at the world for his total lack of achievement in life.
>
> And it's "lawyers". Actually, it's not even that (unless
> you're American). There are solicitors and barristers in the UK. I
> suggest you learn that for the inevitable occasion when you're in
> court for...well, whatever reason repellent little ratboys like you
> end up getting criminal records.
Was on Tuesday, I won an appeal for dissability allowance and low rate care allowance. Just thought i'd let you know, so that I know your face will be beetroot red through rage at least once today.
> kevstar wrote:
> So what your saying is i'm racist because someone like me would
> choose
> to live with other people from my own Country not saying I wouldn't
> talk to them, be abusive, say they have no right to be there or that
> they don't contribute. I would call that patriotic, by your logic
> that means I must be racist for buying British beef from my local
> butchers, or i'm racist because I didn't get a BMW because it's
> German.
>
> Well...no. I'm saying you're racist because of all the statements
> you're making that indicate that you feel anyone of a different
> ethnic group should be treated differently.
No, just people who abuse the system
That and the fact that,
> when I stated the chap involved in the immigration scam wasn't even
> an immigrant, you replied "rubbish, just look at him", thus
> making clear that you felt he couldn't be british because he wasn't
> white.
No, I asked you to have a proper read because when I saw the tape, it clearly indicates that he may well have came here illegally
>
> Do you see?
>
>
> Racism
>
> 1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics
> which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the
> idea
> that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or
> dominate
> others
>
>
> 2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race
> stemming from such a belief
>
> an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and
> ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that
> reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social,
> cultural and power inequalities in society.
>
> Well, over the course of the last few weeks you have;
>
> - Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around
> with their own" despite admitting you do the same
That is not racist
> - Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to
> abuse the system and stretch our services
Yes thats correct, the abusers. I'm not talking about the people who contribute am I.
> - You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't
> contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
Well the ones who don't contribute are, isn't that the way the system works, they need to prove they are not here to drain our services.
> - You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to
> society is inferior.
No i'm not, what i'm saying that with a system in place which stops or limits the abuses you here, they'll be much more than a £2 billion profit.
> - You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to
> that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not to
> work" than white people
Desperate now are you? I've never once said that whites are superior in any way, sure I claimed that immigrants are less likley to work, but thats only because it showed you in the graph, so if anything what your saying is the home office is racist?
>
> Not to mention the fact that you have stated you'd only spend social
> time with people of your own ethnic group. Out of
> "patriotism" apparently. Tell me, did you notice the other
> two posts in the thread stating that they felt you were a racist? Or
> don't they count when they disagree with you?
Well that may be because they took it the wrong way, just like yourself. Goodness sake that means that all the Jewish people who live near me are racist because they decided to live in the same place as each other when they first emmigrated here? You really are desperate now, isn't you?
>
> You know, if you actually read the definition you've just posted, and
> if you boosted your IQ to somewhere above room temperature, you'd see
> that you meet it exactly. You racist.
>
>
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
>
>
> So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone
> "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their
> skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid
> doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to
> hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I
> quote, "just look at him".
Explained above.
>
>
> I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2
> billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control.
>
> No; I'm saying it's an indicator the system is working.
Is it, that £2 billion says nothing aout the numbers does it! So as long as a company makes a profit, the way it's run doesn't matter? I'd love to see you go in to business with that frame of mind.
There are
> other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am
> I getting through to you, or would you like to continue demonstrating
> your abject prole idiocy?
>
> And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming)
>
> Oh, I don't claim that. The report that you linked to as proof
> immigrants were bad stated it was a myth. Remember?
Yeah, and I wonder what he'll say when I mention the same question to him?
>
> then that myth keeps
> popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go
> on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in
> the
> link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case.
>
> Know why it keeps popping up? Cos racists like you keep propogating
> it, despite the enormous weight of evidence to the contrary.
> One single scam (perpetrated by someone who isn't even an immigrant)
> proves beyond doubt? Only beyond the doubts of someone who had
> already made his mind up. To people with a passing interest in
> thinking, it proves that we need an open and honest debate, and that
> racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
One single scam, ok then could you please explain this...As a result of the student visa scam that was exposed during June 2004, the Government has undertaken a comprehensive programme to tackle bogus languages colleges. So far 672 suspected colleges have been visited, of which 178 were genuine, 195 were not and 299 colleges still require further investigation.
So what we have here is a system in place where there seems to be more bogus classes than the genuine ones. Would you now like to agree that the current system is not under control, or are you just going to ignore this like you have with every other example.
>
> I really know now
> that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
>
> Aww, did the poor ickle wacist get all upset? I agree though; relying
> on facts instead of bigotry IS sad. If you're a bigoted plebian who
> is angry at the world for his total lack of achievement in life.
>
> And it's "lawyers". Actually, it's not even that (unless
> you're American). There are solicitors and barristers in the UK. I
> suggest you learn that for the inevitable occasion when you're in
> court for...well, whatever reason repellent little ratboys like you
> end up getting criminal records.
Was on Tuesday, I won an appeal for dissability allowance and low rate care allowance. Just thought i'd let you know, so that I know your face will be beetroot red through rage at least once today.
kevstar wrote:
> So what your saying is i'm racist because someone like me would choose
> to live with other people from my own Country not saying I wouldn't
> talk to them, be abusive, say they have no right to be there or that
> they don't contribute. I would call that patriotic, by your logic
> that means I must be racist for buying British beef from my local
> butchers, or i'm racist because I didn't get a BMW because it's
> German.
Well...no. I'm saying you're racist because of all the statements you're making that indicate that you feel anyone of a different ethnic group should be treated differently. That and the fact that, when I stated the chap involved in the immigration scam wasn't even an immigrant, you replied "rubbish, just look at him", thus making clear that you felt he couldn't be british because he wasn't white.
Do you see?
>
> Racism
>
> 1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics
> which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea
> that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate
> others
>
>
> 2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race
> stemming from such a belief
>
> an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and
> ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that
> reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social,
> cultural and power inequalities in society.
Well, over the course of the last few weeks you have;
- Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around with their own" despite admitting you do the same
- Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to abuse the system and stretch our services
- You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
- You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to society is inferior.
- You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not to work" than white people
Not to mention the fact that you have stated you'd only spend social time with people of your own ethnic group. Out of "patriotism" apparently. Tell me, did you notice the other two posts in the thread stating that they felt you were a racist? Or don't they count when they disagree with you?
You know, if you actually read the definition you've just posted, and if you boosted your IQ to somewhere above room temperature, you'd see that you meet it exactly. You racist.
>
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I quote, "just look at him".
>
> I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2
> billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control.
No; I'm saying it's an indicator the system is working. There are other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am I getting through to you, or would you like to continue demonstrating your abject prole idiocy?
> And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming)
Oh, I don't claim that. The report that you linked to as proof immigrants were bad stated it was a myth. Remember?
> then that myth keeps
> popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go
> on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in the
> link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case.
Know why it keeps popping up? Cos racists like you keep propogating it, despite the enormous weight of evidence to the contrary.
One single scam (perpetrated by someone who isn't even an immigrant) proves beyond doubt? Only beyond the doubts of someone who had already made his mind up. To people with a passing interest in thinking, it proves that we need an open and honest debate, and that racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
> I really know now
> that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
Aww, did the poor ickle wacist get all upset? I agree though; relying on facts instead of bigotry IS sad. If you're a bigoted plebian who is angry at the world for his total lack of achievement in life.
And it's "lawyers". Actually, it's not even that (unless you're American). There are solicitors and barristers in the UK. I suggest you learn that for the inevitable occasion when you're in court for...well, whatever reason repellent little ratboys like you end up getting criminal records.
> So what your saying is i'm racist because someone like me would choose
> to live with other people from my own Country not saying I wouldn't
> talk to them, be abusive, say they have no right to be there or that
> they don't contribute. I would call that patriotic, by your logic
> that means I must be racist for buying British beef from my local
> butchers, or i'm racist because I didn't get a BMW because it's
> German.
Well...no. I'm saying you're racist because of all the statements you're making that indicate that you feel anyone of a different ethnic group should be treated differently. That and the fact that, when I stated the chap involved in the immigration scam wasn't even an immigrant, you replied "rubbish, just look at him", thus making clear that you felt he couldn't be british because he wasn't white.
Do you see?
>
> Racism
>
> 1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics
> which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea
> that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate
> others
>
>
> 2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race
> stemming from such a belief
>
> an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and
> ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that
> reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social,
> cultural and power inequalities in society.
Well, over the course of the last few weeks you have;
- Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around with their own" despite admitting you do the same
- Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to abuse the system and stretch our services
- You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
- You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to society is inferior.
- You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not to work" than white people
Not to mention the fact that you have stated you'd only spend social time with people of your own ethnic group. Out of "patriotism" apparently. Tell me, did you notice the other two posts in the thread stating that they felt you were a racist? Or don't they count when they disagree with you?
You know, if you actually read the definition you've just posted, and if you boosted your IQ to somewhere above room temperature, you'd see that you meet it exactly. You racist.
>
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I quote, "just look at him".
>
> I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2
> billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control.
No; I'm saying it's an indicator the system is working. There are other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am I getting through to you, or would you like to continue demonstrating your abject prole idiocy?
> And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming)
Oh, I don't claim that. The report that you linked to as proof immigrants were bad stated it was a myth. Remember?
> then that myth keeps
> popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go
> on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in the
> link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case.
Know why it keeps popping up? Cos racists like you keep propogating it, despite the enormous weight of evidence to the contrary.
One single scam (perpetrated by someone who isn't even an immigrant) proves beyond doubt? Only beyond the doubts of someone who had already made his mind up. To people with a passing interest in thinking, it proves that we need an open and honest debate, and that racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
> I really know now
> that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
Aww, did the poor ickle wacist get all upset? I agree though; relying on facts instead of bigotry IS sad. If you're a bigoted plebian who is angry at the world for his total lack of achievement in life.
And it's "lawyers". Actually, it's not even that (unless you're American). There are solicitors and barristers in the UK. I suggest you learn that for the inevitable occasion when you're in court for...well, whatever reason repellent little ratboys like you end up getting criminal records.
So what your saying is i'm racist because someone like me would choose to live with other people from my own Country not saying I wouldn't talk to them, be abusive, say they have no right to be there or that they don't contribute. I would call that patriotic, by your logic that means I must be racist for buying British beef from my local butchers, or i'm racist because I didn't get a BMW because it's German.
Racism
1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others
2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race stemming from such a belief
an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social, cultural and power inequalities in society.
What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you, and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2 billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control. And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming) then that myth keeps popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in the link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case. I really know now that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
Racism
1. the belief that human races have distinctive characteristics which determine their respective cultures, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule or dominate others
2. offensive or aggressive behaviour to members of another race stemming from such a belief
an ideology that gives expression to myths about other racial and ethnic groups, that devalues and renders inferior those groups, that reflects and is perpetrated by deeply rooted historical, social, cultural and power inequalities in society.
What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you, and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
I also notice how desperatly your clinging on to your £2 billion net profit excuse to say that the system is under control. And if it's such a myth (as you keep claiming) then that myth keeps popping up like a ghost doesn't it. Why don't you just admit it, go on, that the immigration system is not under control, the scam in the link prooves beyond doubt that this is the case. I really know now that lawers (or whatever you are)talk so much rubbish, it's sad.
kevstar wrote:
> Light wrote:
> Heh. Oh Kevstar, what have you done...
>
> Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to
> only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
>
>
> As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a
> British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
>
> No I didn't, what I mean by this is exactly what I said, that in
> general, people tend to mix with there own race which is true, thats
> not racist as its not saying I dislike them or have anything against
> them, is it? Tell me if you went to live in France, would you move
> where other Brits are already, or would you move where theres no
> Brits? Does it make you racist because you choose to move where the
> Brits are, no it doesn't, does it?
Heh. This is fun; I've never seen anyone try so hard to squirm out of his admission of racism. It's clearly normal for YOU to spend time only with white british people. If I moved to France, I'd be spending time with the people I got on best with, irrespective of their colour or nationality. Would it make me racist to only spend time with the british people? Well...yes, it would. Racism is making judgements about people based on nothing more than their nationality or skin colour. Which is exactly what you're doing.
I note that you're avoiding even addressing the fact that you've assumed someone isn't a British citizen because of the colour of their skin. You big ol' racist you.
> This is getting boring, can't you come up with anything else?
Well...no. Because when you're unquestionably better than someone else in every conceivable way, there's little else to say. Don't you think?
> No, you tell me exactly how this, along with all the other scandals
> thats been hapening is insufficient evidence of a uncontroled
> immigration system? Thats the question I want you to ask. To see this
> story and then to say "it's insufficient evidence" is not
> only ignorant, but dam right insulting to anyone who thinks differnt
> to you.
The story about a non-immigrant taking advantage of immigrants you mean? It's certainly an indicator. But then, so is the fact that we make a Net profit of 2 billion pounds out of immigration, and that a government report that you linked to stated that the idea of immigrants coming here to abuse benefits is a MYTH. Hence, I'm saying all the evidence needs to be collated and an honest debate take place. A debate that excludes the kind of people who make judgements as to someone's nationality based on the colour of their skin.
Do you see my dear little racist?
> Light wrote:
> Heh. Oh Kevstar, what have you done...
>
> Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to
> only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
>
>
> As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a
> British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
>
> No I didn't, what I mean by this is exactly what I said, that in
> general, people tend to mix with there own race which is true, thats
> not racist as its not saying I dislike them or have anything against
> them, is it? Tell me if you went to live in France, would you move
> where other Brits are already, or would you move where theres no
> Brits? Does it make you racist because you choose to move where the
> Brits are, no it doesn't, does it?
Heh. This is fun; I've never seen anyone try so hard to squirm out of his admission of racism. It's clearly normal for YOU to spend time only with white british people. If I moved to France, I'd be spending time with the people I got on best with, irrespective of their colour or nationality. Would it make me racist to only spend time with the british people? Well...yes, it would. Racism is making judgements about people based on nothing more than their nationality or skin colour. Which is exactly what you're doing.
I note that you're avoiding even addressing the fact that you've assumed someone isn't a British citizen because of the colour of their skin. You big ol' racist you.
> This is getting boring, can't you come up with anything else?
Well...no. Because when you're unquestionably better than someone else in every conceivable way, there's little else to say. Don't you think?
> No, you tell me exactly how this, along with all the other scandals
> thats been hapening is insufficient evidence of a uncontroled
> immigration system? Thats the question I want you to ask. To see this
> story and then to say "it's insufficient evidence" is not
> only ignorant, but dam right insulting to anyone who thinks differnt
> to you.
The story about a non-immigrant taking advantage of immigrants you mean? It's certainly an indicator. But then, so is the fact that we make a Net profit of 2 billion pounds out of immigration, and that a government report that you linked to stated that the idea of immigrants coming here to abuse benefits is a MYTH. Hence, I'm saying all the evidence needs to be collated and an honest debate take place. A debate that excludes the kind of people who make judgements as to someone's nationality based on the colour of their skin.
Do you see my dear little racist?
Light wrote:
> Heh. Oh Kevstar, what have you done...
>
> Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to
> only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
>
> As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a
> British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
No I didn't, what I mean by this is exactly what I said, that in general, people tend to mix with there own race which is true, thats not racist as its not saying I dislike them or have anything against them, is it? Tell me if you went to live in France, would you move where other Brits are already, or would you move where theres no Brits? Does it make you racist because you choose to move where the Brits are, no it doesn't, does it?
>
>
> And you still say you're not racist? Well done kevstar; you've
> finally shown your true colours, and humiliated yourself far better
> than I ever could.
>
> And, of course, you've proven that not only am I better than you in
> every way, but so is every other person who posts on this board.
This is getting boring, can't you come up with anything else?
>
>
>
> Oh, the question I "always ignore" was answered by me
> repeatedly, but just for old times sake; I think that there is
> insufficient evidence to say it's either under or out of control. I
> think an open and honest debate is needed to establish exactly what
> the problems with immigration are, and what the solutions should be.
> And I think racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
>
> Do you see?
No, you tell me exactly how this, along with all the other scandals thats been hapening is insufficient evidence of a uncontroled immigration system? Thats the question I want you to ask. To see this story and then to say "it's insufficient evidence" is not only ignorant, but dam right insulting to anyone who thinks differnt to you.
> Heh. Oh Kevstar, what have you done...
>
> Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to
> only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
>
> As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a
> British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
No I didn't, what I mean by this is exactly what I said, that in general, people tend to mix with there own race which is true, thats not racist as its not saying I dislike them or have anything against them, is it? Tell me if you went to live in France, would you move where other Brits are already, or would you move where theres no Brits? Does it make you racist because you choose to move where the Brits are, no it doesn't, does it?
>
>
> And you still say you're not racist? Well done kevstar; you've
> finally shown your true colours, and humiliated yourself far better
> than I ever could.
>
> And, of course, you've proven that not only am I better than you in
> every way, but so is every other person who posts on this board.
This is getting boring, can't you come up with anything else?
>
>
>
> Oh, the question I "always ignore" was answered by me
> repeatedly, but just for old times sake; I think that there is
> insufficient evidence to say it's either under or out of control. I
> think an open and honest debate is needed to establish exactly what
> the problems with immigration are, and what the solutions should be.
> And I think racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
>
> Do you see?
No, you tell me exactly how this, along with all the other scandals thats been hapening is insufficient evidence of a uncontroled immigration system? Thats the question I want you to ask. To see this story and then to say "it's insufficient evidence" is not only ignorant, but dam right insulting to anyone who thinks differnt to you.
Heh. Oh Kevstar, what have you done...
Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
And you still say you're not racist? Well done kevstar; you've finally shown your true colours, and humiliated yourself far better than I ever could.
And, of course, you've proven that not only am I better than you in every way, but so is every other person who posts on this board.
Oh, the question I "always ignore" was answered by me repeatedly, but just for old times sake; I think that there is insufficient evidence to say it's either under or out of control. I think an open and honest debate is needed to establish exactly what the problems with immigration are, and what the solutions should be. And I think racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
Do you see?
Well, first of all, you've stated that it's "normal" to only spend time with people of your own ethnic group.
As if that weren't enough, you've assumed that someone isn't a British citizen because of the colour of his skin.
And you still say you're not racist? Well done kevstar; you've finally shown your true colours, and humiliated yourself far better than I ever could.
And, of course, you've proven that not only am I better than you in every way, but so is every other person who posts on this board.
Oh, the question I "always ignore" was answered by me repeatedly, but just for old times sake; I think that there is insufficient evidence to say it's either under or out of control. I think an open and honest debate is needed to establish exactly what the problems with immigration are, and what the solutions should be. And I think racists like you should be excluded from that debate.
Do you see?
> kevstar wrote:
> Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to
> asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing
> with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there
> at work.
I've been reading this thread for a little while now, always pretty certain kevstar's an irrelevant racist twig off the ugly tree, but that completely confirmed it.
You. Are. Racist.
I'll mix with whoever I'm around, regardless of skin colour or ethnicity. What difference does it make, Kevin? All arguments about immigration aside, you are proving yourself to be just as racist as everyone says you are.
> Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to
> asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing
> with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there
> at work.
I've been reading this thread for a little while now, always pretty certain kevstar's an irrelevant racist twig off the ugly tree, but that completely confirmed it.
You. Are. Racist.
I'll mix with whoever I'm around, regardless of skin colour or ethnicity. What difference does it make, Kevin? All arguments about immigration aside, you are proving yourself to be just as racist as everyone says you are.
kevstar wrote:
> Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to
> asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing
> with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there
> at work.
Wow. That's. like. Unbelievable.
I spent a lot of time in Derby a few years back. I also a large amount of time outside of work with people from varying ethnic backgrounds.
> Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to
> asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing
> with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there
> at work.
Wow. That's. like. Unbelievable.
I spent a lot of time in Derby a few years back. I also a large amount of time outside of work with people from varying ethnic backgrounds.
Light wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
>
>
> No this is my point because they are fine when at work they have no
> choice but to mix, but when they go home(and i'm talking in
> general)just like white people like me and most other people in the
> Country go home and mix with there own kind. So you see, the two
> statements can be mutually exclusive, do you see?
>
>
> So, "they" all behave like this? Heh...and you still
> say you're not a racist?
>
> And if you're admitting that you don't mix with any ethnic groups
> other than your own, why are you criticising non-whites for doing
> exactly what you do?
Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there at work.
>
> I do so love it when you try to be sarcastic after having just made
> yourself look like the ignorant little prole that you are...
Never have, it's just you who thinks I have. Are you going to answer the question you always ignore? Do you think this immigration system is under control. If so, then you must be able to answer the following question.... Why does the example I give show otherwise?
>
>
>
> No evidence! Well I never. The example given in the first post of
> the
> day(regarding the way anyone can set up language classes and abuse
> the system from there as explained in my first post) has as much
> evidence as you want. First of all it was all on camera which was
> shown last night on bbc1 at 7:30pm called inside out extra. You
> didn't see it because it wasn't shown in your region but you can
> check it out on the net(can't be bothered to show you the link). So
> you see it's not a case of I think it will happen, but more like it
> has already happened, he got caught by the home office, so he comes
> up north changes his name and does the same thing all over again.
>
> Anyone CAN set these up? So let me get this straight; one person has
> (he isn't even an immigrant...), and so you're saying that therefore
> means ALL immigrants will be doing this?
He isn't a immigrant, you are taking the mick. Thats not the point, you said in your own words that the immigration system is under control, correct? Then explain why this is happening, not once but twice, and thats just one person bieg caught. I tell you what narks me, the fact that you get the home office saying that "everything is alright and it's under control", then you get a reportor going under cover and shows otherwise. Why don't they just get reporters and go under cover to investigate more cases like this, and I tell you what, they wil at the same time uncover white people abusing the system at the same time, correct?
>
> And what you're talking about is something done by a good ol' UK
> citizen. Not immigrants.
Is is balls, you just take another look at the link I showed and tell me if he's a British Citizen?
It's someone who lives here taking advantage
> of immigrants. And you seem to be blaming the immigrants, rather than
> the man (the only man) doing this.
How are they talking advantage of immigrants exactly? It's not as if they didn't have a choice is it! You are desprate now isn't you?
>
> The only reason I can see you're doing that, is that Yousif
> Abdul-Salam (or whomever the hell he is) seems to be...well,
> non-white. So because of his actions (and you don't even know if he's
> an immigrant, do you dear boy?), you're saying that all immigrants
> are bad?
No, but when there offering £70 commision, do you not think thats a incentive for people to abuse the system?
>
> Tell me; would you have gotten your little panties in such a twist if
> the man responsible for this had been Gary Smith from Leeds? And how
> come you're concentrating on this whilst (as I predicted) ignoring
> the headline in the Independent which stated that immigrants, if used
> properly, will solve the countries skills gap crisis?
Why? Well because i'm not ignoring the headline, I actually think it's right that immigrants should be used properly and never once said that they shouldn't, correct? And this is also another example how the system is not working properly, correct?
> kevstar wrote:
>
>
> No this is my point because they are fine when at work they have no
> choice but to mix, but when they go home(and i'm talking in
> general)just like white people like me and most other people in the
> Country go home and mix with there own kind. So you see, the two
> statements can be mutually exclusive, do you see?
>
>
> So, "they" all behave like this? Heh...and you still
> say you're not a racist?
>
> And if you're admitting that you don't mix with any ethnic groups
> other than your own, why are you criticising non-whites for doing
> exactly what you do?
Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there at work.
>
> I do so love it when you try to be sarcastic after having just made
> yourself look like the ignorant little prole that you are...
Never have, it's just you who thinks I have. Are you going to answer the question you always ignore? Do you think this immigration system is under control. If so, then you must be able to answer the following question.... Why does the example I give show otherwise?
>
>
>
> No evidence! Well I never. The example given in the first post of
> the
> day(regarding the way anyone can set up language classes and abuse
> the system from there as explained in my first post) has as much
> evidence as you want. First of all it was all on camera which was
> shown last night on bbc1 at 7:30pm called inside out extra. You
> didn't see it because it wasn't shown in your region but you can
> check it out on the net(can't be bothered to show you the link). So
> you see it's not a case of I think it will happen, but more like it
> has already happened, he got caught by the home office, so he comes
> up north changes his name and does the same thing all over again.
>
> Anyone CAN set these up? So let me get this straight; one person has
> (he isn't even an immigrant...), and so you're saying that therefore
> means ALL immigrants will be doing this?
He isn't a immigrant, you are taking the mick. Thats not the point, you said in your own words that the immigration system is under control, correct? Then explain why this is happening, not once but twice, and thats just one person bieg caught. I tell you what narks me, the fact that you get the home office saying that "everything is alright and it's under control", then you get a reportor going under cover and shows otherwise. Why don't they just get reporters and go under cover to investigate more cases like this, and I tell you what, they wil at the same time uncover white people abusing the system at the same time, correct?
>
> And what you're talking about is something done by a good ol' UK
> citizen. Not immigrants.
Is is balls, you just take another look at the link I showed and tell me if he's a British Citizen?
It's someone who lives here taking advantage
> of immigrants. And you seem to be blaming the immigrants, rather than
> the man (the only man) doing this.
How are they talking advantage of immigrants exactly? It's not as if they didn't have a choice is it! You are desprate now isn't you?
>
> The only reason I can see you're doing that, is that Yousif
> Abdul-Salam (or whomever the hell he is) seems to be...well,
> non-white. So because of his actions (and you don't even know if he's
> an immigrant, do you dear boy?), you're saying that all immigrants
> are bad?
No, but when there offering £70 commision, do you not think thats a incentive for people to abuse the system?
>
> Tell me; would you have gotten your little panties in such a twist if
> the man responsible for this had been Gary Smith from Leeds? And how
> come you're concentrating on this whilst (as I predicted) ignoring
> the headline in the Independent which stated that immigrants, if used
> properly, will solve the countries skills gap crisis?
Why? Well because i'm not ignoring the headline, I actually think it's right that immigrants should be used properly and never once said that they shouldn't, correct? And this is also another example how the system is not working properly, correct?
kevstar wrote:
>
> No this is my point because they are fine when at work they have no
> choice but to mix, but when they go home(and i'm talking in
> general)just like white people like me and most other people in the
> Country go home and mix with there own kind. So you see, the two
> statements can be mutually exclusive, do you see?
So, "they" all behave like this? Heh...and you still say you're not a racist?
And if you're admitting that you don't mix with any ethnic groups other than your own, why are you criticising non-whites for doing exactly what you do?
I do so love it when you try to be sarcastic after having just made yourself look like the ignorant little prole that you are...
>
> No evidence! Well I never. The example given in the first post of the
> day(regarding the way anyone can set up language classes and abuse
> the system from there as explained in my first post) has as much
> evidence as you want. First of all it was all on camera which was
> shown last night on bbc1 at 7:30pm called inside out extra. You
> didn't see it because it wasn't shown in your region but you can
> check it out on the net(can't be bothered to show you the link). So
> you see it's not a case of I think it will happen, but more like it
> has already happened, he got caught by the home office, so he comes
> up north changes his name and does the same thing all over again.
Anyone CAN set these up? So let me get this straight; one person has (he isn't even an immigrant...), and so you're saying that therefore means ALL immigrants will be doing this?
And what you're talking about is something done by a good ol' UK citizen. Not immigrants. It's someone who lives here taking advantage of immigrants. And you seem to be blaming the immigrants, rather than the man (the only man) doing this.
The only reason I can see you're doing that, is that Yousif Abdul-Salam (or whomever the hell he is) seems to be...well, non-white. So because of his actions (and you don't even know if he's an immigrant, do you dear boy?), you're saying that all immigrants are bad?
Tell me; would you have gotten your little panties in such a twist if the man responsible for this had been Gary Smith from Leeds? And how come you're concentrating on this whilst (as I predicted) ignoring the headline in the Independent which stated that immigrants, if used properly, will solve the countries skills gap crisis?
>
> No this is my point because they are fine when at work they have no
> choice but to mix, but when they go home(and i'm talking in
> general)just like white people like me and most other people in the
> Country go home and mix with there own kind. So you see, the two
> statements can be mutually exclusive, do you see?
So, "they" all behave like this? Heh...and you still say you're not a racist?
And if you're admitting that you don't mix with any ethnic groups other than your own, why are you criticising non-whites for doing exactly what you do?
I do so love it when you try to be sarcastic after having just made yourself look like the ignorant little prole that you are...
>
> No evidence! Well I never. The example given in the first post of the
> day(regarding the way anyone can set up language classes and abuse
> the system from there as explained in my first post) has as much
> evidence as you want. First of all it was all on camera which was
> shown last night on bbc1 at 7:30pm called inside out extra. You
> didn't see it because it wasn't shown in your region but you can
> check it out on the net(can't be bothered to show you the link). So
> you see it's not a case of I think it will happen, but more like it
> has already happened, he got caught by the home office, so he comes
> up north changes his name and does the same thing all over again.
Anyone CAN set these up? So let me get this straight; one person has (he isn't even an immigrant...), and so you're saying that therefore means ALL immigrants will be doing this?
And what you're talking about is something done by a good ol' UK citizen. Not immigrants. It's someone who lives here taking advantage of immigrants. And you seem to be blaming the immigrants, rather than the man (the only man) doing this.
The only reason I can see you're doing that, is that Yousif Abdul-Salam (or whomever the hell he is) seems to be...well, non-white. So because of his actions (and you don't even know if he's an immigrant, do you dear boy?), you're saying that all immigrants are bad?
Tell me; would you have gotten your little panties in such a twist if the man responsible for this had been Gary Smith from Leeds? And how come you're concentrating on this whilst (as I predicted) ignoring the headline in the Independent which stated that immigrants, if used properly, will solve the countries skills gap crisis?
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