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Disgusting, it really is.
Original Message posted by ßulle†† Yesterday at 12.14PM Original Message
There are 27 replies
Drunk Illegal Immigrant, driving with no license or insurance, knocks down and kills a child and only gets..
8 weeks
And he's still in the Country, despite being here illegally.
Hurrah for justice.
After reading this post it made me want to know what you all think about illegal immigrants. I think it is wrong and because Britain used to be a strong dominating country should stand strong now and make sure no forign immigrants get into the UK. Look what what happens when they get in...
Original Message posted by ßulle†† Yesterday at 12.14PM Original Message
There are 27 replies
Drunk Illegal Immigrant, driving with no license or insurance, knocks down and kills a child and only gets..
8 weeks
And he's still in the Country, despite being here illegally.
Hurrah for justice.
After reading this post it made me want to know what you all think about illegal immigrants. I think it is wrong and because Britain used to be a strong dominating country should stand strong now and make sure no forign immigrants get into the UK. Look what what happens when they get in...
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kevstar wrote:
> I didn't you idiot, Indians and Pakistani's are not exactly friendly
> with each other are they? But you have friends from both of theese
> Countrys so that means they must be talking with each other which is
> why I said "thats a first" cos it's suprising you see.
Ahh, I see. You assumed that I'd been out with Indians and Pakistanis at the same time and in the same group of people. Nope.
You know what they say about assuming............
> I didn't you idiot, Indians and Pakistani's are not exactly friendly
> with each other are they? But you have friends from both of theese
> Countrys so that means they must be talking with each other which is
> why I said "thats a first" cos it's suprising you see.
Ahh, I see. You assumed that I'd been out with Indians and Pakistanis at the same time and in the same group of people. Nope.
You know what they say about assuming............
Pandaemonium wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
> Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first).
>
> You obviously don't know many people of these backgrounds. You do NOT
> class someone of Indian ethicity a Pakistani and vice
> versa................
I didn't you idiot, Indians and Pakistani's are not exactly friendly with each other are they? But you have friends from both of theese Countrys so that means they must be talking with each other which is why I said "thats a first" cos it's suprising you see.
> kevstar wrote:
> Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first).
>
> You obviously don't know many people of these backgrounds. You do NOT
> class someone of Indian ethicity a Pakistani and vice
> versa................
I didn't you idiot, Indians and Pakistani's are not exactly friendly with each other are they? But you have friends from both of theese Countrys so that means they must be talking with each other which is why I said "thats a first" cos it's suprising you see.
kevstar wrote:
> Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first).
You obviously don't know many people of these backgrounds. You do NOT class someone of Indian ethicity a Pakistani and vice versa................
> Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first).
You obviously don't know many people of these backgrounds. You do NOT class someone of Indian ethicity a Pakistani and vice versa................
Pandaemonium wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
> and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what
> there on about.
>
> As I mentioned previously, I've spent a lot of time socially
> with a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Black, Chinese, Greek,
> Indian, Pakistani. Perhaps if people like you stopped being such a
> bigot, the problem of racism would be far less of a problem
> and not as widespead? Hmmm?
Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first). Well done to you, i'm not saying it's bad or wrong to mix with theese people, never have. What i'm saying is that despite what you say (and light) it is what I and most people in the UK think that it's normal to to have just white friends. For Gods sake, if a black person came to me and asked if they wanted to mix in our group down the pub for a drink (or whatever), I wouldn't have a problem, but the fact is, this doesn't generally happen because its this whats not normal, despite how much you want it to, but it just doens't happen.
> kevstar wrote:
> and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what
> there on about.
>
> As I mentioned previously, I've spent a lot of time socially
> with a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Black, Chinese, Greek,
> Indian, Pakistani. Perhaps if people like you stopped being such a
> bigot, the problem of racism would be far less of a problem
> and not as widespead? Hmmm?
Indians and Pakistani's in the same group (thats a first). Well done to you, i'm not saying it's bad or wrong to mix with theese people, never have. What i'm saying is that despite what you say (and light) it is what I and most people in the UK think that it's normal to to have just white friends. For Gods sake, if a black person came to me and asked if they wanted to mix in our group down the pub for a drink (or whatever), I wouldn't have a problem, but the fact is, this doesn't generally happen because its this whats not normal, despite how much you want it to, but it just doens't happen.
kevstar wrote:
> So
> then, you get his fellow liitle followers trying to chip in and cover
> him, but without success.
I'm not trying to cover him in any way. I'm simply stating that you shouldn't judge everyone else's opinions and experiences on your own. It's a little arrogant and presumptuous.
> So
> then, you get his fellow liitle followers trying to chip in and cover
> him, but without success.
I'm not trying to cover him in any way. I'm simply stating that you shouldn't judge everyone else's opinions and experiences on your own. It's a little arrogant and presumptuous.
From the start of this debate we had light saying the system is under control, correct. Now he can't even admit that the system is not under control when concrete evidence is staring him in the face. But because he's a lawyer (I prefer that word), that won't do cos you see, they try to squirm there way out of anything don't they. So then, you get his fellow liitle followers trying to chip in and cover him, but without success.
Ohh, and I never cheated the system, I should have claimed 2 years ago but wasn't in the know cos people don't seem to tell you what your intitled to. And it's funny because it just shows that you don't indeed need to know the full system to know theres a problem doesn't it, all you need to do is point out the cases which get reported and thats enough proof for me.
Ohh, and I never cheated the system, I should have claimed 2 years ago but wasn't in the know cos people don't seem to tell you what your intitled to. And it's funny because it just shows that you don't indeed need to know the full system to know theres a problem doesn't it, all you need to do is point out the cases which get reported and thats enough proof for me.
kevstar wrote:
> and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what
> there on about.
As I mentioned previously, I've spent a lot of time socially with a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Black, Chinese, Greek, Indian, Pakistani. Perhaps if people like you stopped being such a bigot, the problem of racism would be far less of a problem and not as widespead? Hmmm?
> and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what
> there on about.
As I mentioned previously, I've spent a lot of time socially with a lot of different ethnic backgrounds. Black, Chinese, Greek, Indian, Pakistani. Perhaps if people like you stopped being such a bigot, the problem of racism would be far less of a problem and not as widespead? Hmmm?
Pandaemonium wrote:
> No Kevstar, the reason you are racist is becuase you posted, without
> thinking through the ramifications, "Well it's something called
> normal, are you saying it's not normal to asociate yourself with
> white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups? I
> can't fins any examples other than when there at work."
>
> And THAT is appallingly racist.
>
> Nothing about the French, nothing about emigration, but simply
> "Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups?"
>
> Not living in the same area, but MIXING.
>
> You tried to squirm out of it once you realised you had been picked
> up on it, but your true colors shine through in that single post.
Go home will you and sop trying to be clever cos as i've already explained in the post below. At work, in my expierence the only time i've mixed (and mixed very well) is at work. The jewish people in my area do the same thing, there work is (I guess bieng a landlord)the only time they seem to mix with other people, they don't even allow other races to learn in there schools, is that racist? And you do know the reason they live in the same area is because they wan't to be near there own people, as I said is that racist?
I don't think it is, and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what there on about. As I said this is what most people would find normal, it's got nothing to do with race, colour, religion or whatever else you conjure up out of your pea brain head of yours. It seems to me that theres a lot of people on this site who don't know the meaning of the word racist. Every time someones claimed me to be racist, i've not only made them eat there words, but give good and accurate reasons in doing so.
> No Kevstar, the reason you are racist is becuase you posted, without
> thinking through the ramifications, "Well it's something called
> normal, are you saying it's not normal to asociate yourself with
> white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups? I
> can't fins any examples other than when there at work."
>
> And THAT is appallingly racist.
>
> Nothing about the French, nothing about emigration, but simply
> "Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups?"
>
> Not living in the same area, but MIXING.
>
> You tried to squirm out of it once you realised you had been picked
> up on it, but your true colors shine through in that single post.
Go home will you and sop trying to be clever cos as i've already explained in the post below. At work, in my expierence the only time i've mixed (and mixed very well) is at work. The jewish people in my area do the same thing, there work is (I guess bieng a landlord)the only time they seem to mix with other people, they don't even allow other races to learn in there schools, is that racist? And you do know the reason they live in the same area is because they wan't to be near there own people, as I said is that racist?
I don't think it is, and anyone who says otherwise havn't a clue what there on about. As I said this is what most people would find normal, it's got nothing to do with race, colour, religion or whatever else you conjure up out of your pea brain head of yours. It seems to me that theres a lot of people on this site who don't know the meaning of the word racist. Every time someones claimed me to be racist, i've not only made them eat there words, but give good and accurate reasons in doing so.
kevstar wrote:
> No, just people who abuse the system
Yet you only seem to think immigrants do. Despite the fact they make up an overwhelming minority of those on benefits...
>
>
> No, I asked you to have a proper read because when I saw the tape, it
> clearly indicates that he may well have came here illegally
>
> Do you see?
Really? Where? Because you see, I watched the program, and it didn't say that anywhere. Look back at the post you made; your words were "Just look at him" when you tried to claim he was an immigrant, weren't they dear boy?
> - Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around
> with their own" despite admitting you do the same
>
> That is not racist
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Course it isn't kevin, course it isn't...
>
> - Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to
> abuse the system and stretch our services
>
> Yes thats correct, the abusers. I'm not talking about the people who
> contribute am I.
Yet you're saying most immigrants do so, aren't you sweetheart?
>
> - You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't
> contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
>
> Well the ones who don't contribute are, isn't that the way the system
> works, they need to prove they are not here to drain our services.
And 2 billion net profit...that's not proof is it? Course it isn't; you don't like it, therefore it can't be true...
>
> - You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to
> society is inferior.
>
> No i'm not, what i'm saying that with a system in place which stops
> or limits the abuses you here, they'll be much more than a £2
> billion profit.
Really? That's the first sensible thing you've actually said...shame you don't actually know what the current system is, isn't it?
>
> - You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to
> that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not
> to
> work" than white people
>
> Desperate now are you? I've never once said that whites are superior
> in any way, sure I claimed that immigrants are less likley to work,
> but thats only because it showed you in the graph, so if anything
> what your saying is the home office is racist?
Heh. Nah, not desperate; just stating what you said. And when I explained to you that the graph was looking at a mainly student population, rather than solely looking at economic immigrants, you simply ignored it and kept repeating "they're less likely to work".
It's such a shame that you're not actually able to understand the very figures you link to, isn't it?
> Well that may be because they took it the wrong way, just like
> yourself. Goodness sake that means that all the Jewish people who
> live near me are racist because they decided to live in the same
> place as each other when they first emmigrated here? You really are
> desperate now, isn't you?
Well, as you're the chap saying "you're desperate" over and over again, I'd say you're protesting just a little too much...
Being as you don't actually spend any time with your Jewish neighbours, how do you know that?
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
Well, I have the two good reasons; your stating "just look at him" when saying someone wasn't a british citizen (do you even remember saying that now, or are you going to pretend it never happened?), and we have your statement that you'll only spend time with people of your own ethnic group. Do you see, my racist little ratboy?
>
>
> So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone
> "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their
> skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid
> doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to
> hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I
> quote, "just look at him".
>
> Explained above.
Alas, no it isn't. You've not even acknowledged that you said "just look at him", have you dear boy?
> Is it, that £2 billion says nothing aout the numbers does it!
> So as long as a company makes a profit, the way it's run doesn't
> matter? I'd love to see you go in to business with that frame of
> mind.
Heh. I'd have a successful business; what, do you think big business cares about anything other than money? Speaking as someone who works for a multinationaly, I can assure you; they don't.
No, it doesn't say anything about the numbers. That is why I'm saying there needs to be a collation of the evidence, and an open and honest debate. You seem to have a problem with that, don't you?
>
> There are
> other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am
> I getting through to you, or would you like to continue
> demonstrating
> your abject prole idiocy?
Mm, yes you do indeed have a problem with a debate about this. That's the only reason I can see why you'd constantly wail "Admit it! It's all gone wrong!!". It's an indication of a narrow, bigoted mind when someone refuses to acknowledge the need for debate, and petulantly insists that they HAVE to be right, despite any evidence to the contrary.
> Yeah, and I wonder what he'll say when I mention the same question to
> him?
What are you babbling about? Oh, the graph? The graph that you deliberately misinterpreted you mean? Yeah; I covered that.
So; care to discuss why you linked to a report that stated your whole argument is a myth?
> One single scam, ok then could you please explain this...As a result
> of the student visa scam that was exposed during June 2004, the
> Government has undertaken a comprehensive programme to tackle bogus
> languages colleges. So far 672 suspected colleges have been visited,
> of which 178 were genuine, 195 were not and 299 colleges still
> require further investigation.
So we have more people taking advantage of immigrants then? And your point is?
>
> So what we have here is a system in place where there seems to be
> more bogus classes than the genuine ones. Would you now like to agree
> that the current system is not under control, or are you just going
> to ignore this like you have with every other example.
No; I'm going to say that it's more evidence that needs to be included in an open and honest debate. Just like I always have. Such a shame you keep wailing "This PROVES I'm right!!" whilst trying to squirm out of explaining what the current system is, isn't it?
little ratboys like you
> end up getting criminal records.
>
> Was on Tuesday, I won an appeal for dissability allowance and low
> rate care allowance. Just thought i'd let you know, so that I know
> your face will be beetroot red through rage at least once today.
Heh. So you're now boasting of cheating the system eh? Yet you castigate immigrants for the same thing. Ahh, such a glorious hypocrite you are...
This is fun, isn't it Kevin? Watching you try to squirm and slither out of your racist statements...
> No, just people who abuse the system
Yet you only seem to think immigrants do. Despite the fact they make up an overwhelming minority of those on benefits...
>
>
> No, I asked you to have a proper read because when I saw the tape, it
> clearly indicates that he may well have came here illegally
>
> Do you see?
Really? Where? Because you see, I watched the program, and it didn't say that anywhere. Look back at the post you made; your words were "Just look at him" when you tried to claim he was an immigrant, weren't they dear boy?
> - Made offensive comments about how "they always hang around
> with their own" despite admitting you do the same
>
> That is not racist
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA! Course it isn't kevin, course it isn't...
>
> - Made offensive comments about how "they" are here to
> abuse the system and stretch our services
>
> Yes thats correct, the abusers. I'm not talking about the people who
> contribute am I.
Yet you're saying most immigrants do so, aren't you sweetheart?
>
> - You've expressed repeatedly the myth that immigrants don't
> contribute to our economy, and are in fact a drain on it.
>
> Well the ones who don't contribute are, isn't that the way the system
> works, they need to prove they are not here to drain our services.
And 2 billion net profit...that's not proof is it? Course it isn't; you don't like it, therefore it can't be true...
>
> - You've devalued and tried to imply that their contribution to
> society is inferior.
>
> No i'm not, what i'm saying that with a system in place which stops
> or limits the abuses you here, they'll be much more than a £2
> billion profit.
Really? That's the first sensible thing you've actually said...shame you don't actually know what the current system is, isn't it?
>
> - You've tried to claim that your own racial grouping is superior to
> that of any immigrant because immigrants "are more likely not
> to
> work" than white people
>
> Desperate now are you? I've never once said that whites are superior
> in any way, sure I claimed that immigrants are less likley to work,
> but thats only because it showed you in the graph, so if anything
> what your saying is the home office is racist?
Heh. Nah, not desperate; just stating what you said. And when I explained to you that the graph was looking at a mainly student population, rather than solely looking at economic immigrants, you simply ignored it and kept repeating "they're less likely to work".
It's such a shame that you're not actually able to understand the very figures you link to, isn't it?
> Well that may be because they took it the wrong way, just like
> yourself. Goodness sake that means that all the Jewish people who
> live near me are racist because they decided to live in the same
> place as each other when they first emmigrated here? You really are
> desperate now, isn't you?
Well, as you're the chap saying "you're desperate" over and over again, I'd say you're protesting just a little too much...
Being as you don't actually spend any time with your Jewish neighbours, how do you know that?
> What judgements am I basing nothing more than there skin? I never
> said we dominate other races, or been offensive or aggresive to
> theese people. I don't beleve immigrants are ethnic groups do you,
> and I certainly never said any race is inferior. So next time have a
> good reason to call me racist instead of making things up.
Well, I have the two good reasons; your stating "just look at him" when saying someone wasn't a british citizen (do you even remember saying that now, or are you going to pretend it never happened?), and we have your statement that you'll only spend time with people of your own ethnic group. Do you see, my racist little ratboy?
>
>
> So...how exactly does that address why you thought someone
> "wasn't a british citizen" because of the colour of their
> skin? Please; do answer that one. I'm having fun watching you avoid
> doing so, but there are others reading who would, I'm sure, love to
> hear your excuse for saying someone isn't british because, and I
> quote, "just look at him".
>
> Explained above.
Alas, no it isn't. You've not even acknowledged that you said "just look at him", have you dear boy?
> Is it, that £2 billion says nothing aout the numbers does it!
> So as long as a company makes a profit, the way it's run doesn't
> matter? I'd love to see you go in to business with that frame of
> mind.
Heh. I'd have a successful business; what, do you think big business cares about anything other than money? Speaking as someone who works for a multinationaly, I can assure you; they don't.
No, it doesn't say anything about the numbers. That is why I'm saying there needs to be a collation of the evidence, and an open and honest debate. You seem to have a problem with that, don't you?
>
> There are
> other indicators it isn't. Which is why we need an honest debate. Am
> I getting through to you, or would you like to continue
> demonstrating
> your abject prole idiocy?
Mm, yes you do indeed have a problem with a debate about this. That's the only reason I can see why you'd constantly wail "Admit it! It's all gone wrong!!". It's an indication of a narrow, bigoted mind when someone refuses to acknowledge the need for debate, and petulantly insists that they HAVE to be right, despite any evidence to the contrary.
> Yeah, and I wonder what he'll say when I mention the same question to
> him?
What are you babbling about? Oh, the graph? The graph that you deliberately misinterpreted you mean? Yeah; I covered that.
So; care to discuss why you linked to a report that stated your whole argument is a myth?
> One single scam, ok then could you please explain this...As a result
> of the student visa scam that was exposed during June 2004, the
> Government has undertaken a comprehensive programme to tackle bogus
> languages colleges. So far 672 suspected colleges have been visited,
> of which 178 were genuine, 195 were not and 299 colleges still
> require further investigation.
So we have more people taking advantage of immigrants then? And your point is?
>
> So what we have here is a system in place where there seems to be
> more bogus classes than the genuine ones. Would you now like to agree
> that the current system is not under control, or are you just going
> to ignore this like you have with every other example.
No; I'm going to say that it's more evidence that needs to be included in an open and honest debate. Just like I always have. Such a shame you keep wailing "This PROVES I'm right!!" whilst trying to squirm out of explaining what the current system is, isn't it?
little ratboys like you
> end up getting criminal records.
>
> Was on Tuesday, I won an appeal for dissability allowance and low
> rate care allowance. Just thought i'd let you know, so that I know
> your face will be beetroot red through rage at least once today.
Heh. So you're now boasting of cheating the system eh? Yet you castigate immigrants for the same thing. Ahh, such a glorious hypocrite you are...
This is fun, isn't it Kevin? Watching you try to squirm and slither out of your racist statements...
No Kevstar, the reason you are racist is becuase you posted, without thinking through the ramifications, "Well it's something called normal, are you saying it's not normal to asociate yourself with white folk? Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups? I can't fins any examples other than when there at work."
And THAT is appallingly racist.
Nothing about the French, nothing about emigration, but simply "Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups?"
Not living in the same area, but MIXING.
You tried to squirm out of it once you realised you had been picked up on it, but your true colors shine through in that single post.
And THAT is appallingly racist.
Nothing about the French, nothing about emigration, but simply "Do you think it's normal mixing with ethnic groups?"
Not living in the same area, but MIXING.
You tried to squirm out of it once you realised you had been picked up on it, but your true colors shine through in that single post.
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