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Why are people so amazed that the Xbox is NOT £400??? Microsoft know just as much about the industry as Sony. FULLSTOP.

And the fact that Microsoft have a competitively priced console, good second party games (Microsoft BOUGHT bungie so that Halo will be on Xbox... what about Sony?) and a very well built console. On top, they have huge marketting and a good list of supporting developers.

Of course, Sony didn't enter the market with all of the above and kill the competition?


And the reply to this topic:
OH NO! But it's made my MS! Kill Bill and all that!

Sonic

Bonus wrote:
> Hmm, name a console that has a useless madon and isn't very good for
> playing games on-line, the only current viable on-line format is a
> broadband PC, and soon the PS2. But even still Quake and Unreal,
> amongst others, are better on the PC than consoles (and Kingpin is
> the best multiplayer fps!!)

The PS2 will be no more feasible online than the DC... probably less so seeing as sony is showing a poor dev kit for online features at the moment.

And the idea of broadband PS2... how many UK homes have broadband??? Almost none!

Sonic

Hmm, name a console that has a useless madon and isn't very good for playing games on-line, the only current viable on-line format is a broadband PC, and soon the PS2. But even still Quake and Unreal, amongst others, are better on the PC than consoles (and Kingpin is the best multiplayer fps!!)

Dreamcast.

Although they've stopped production there are still hundreds of thousands around the world wainting to be sold.


Also, just because they're not being sold any more, doesnt mean people dont still play them.

The DC will still be going strong into 2002.

hmmm... name a console that has a modem as standard and will be around at the end of the year?

Sonic

I think the X-box will actually do quite well, although I must stress that it needs a modem as standard, theres no excuse for not having one, as it would only make the console £10 more expensive.
Microsoft could suprise the gaming world if they did this, particularly if they make acess to the internet cheap through their machine. Currently Im online using NTL, all I pay is my telephone linerental and online time is free.
Since Microsoft has shares in NTL, it is possible that online acess and games could be cheap through the X-box.

Although the price of this could be to give you personal details to the most sucessful company on earth. Is it worth it, well to play cheaply online I may just sell my soul to Microsoft (figuratively speaking!).

turbonutter wrote:
> That man has a point though. The Xbox has the same spec as a
> high-end PC, so how are they going to be able to sell it so cheaply?
> Bill Gates isn;t really interested in conquering the market, he
> wants to make more money, so he wouldn't be so stupid as to sell it
> for less than it costs.

One more thing, why has he decided to use
> Pentiums? Everyone knows that AMDs are much better choices.

I think you'll find that when the PSX came out it was the same spec as a high end PC (in terms of delivering graphics it was unbelievable for its day).

If the PS2 were to be released at the same time as the Xbox, due to all the newer hardware available it would be the same spec as the Xbox at the same price... it's just a matter of the Xbox being produced later, therefore being able to buy better components at the lower price.

And one thing I cannot stress enough- consoles are sold for less than their worth. The way people like sony make money is by licencing games on the consoles. Although a PSX now costs £16 to make (or so it has been claimed) when it was made originally it cost a hell of a lot more! It was using the worlds most advanced graphical chip and processing functions.

To give an example of how this is important... after the N64 was released at £250, nintendo realised that in the face of the PSX this was too high. So they dropped the price to £150... which made a huge loss in the short term- but the licences in the long term were huge! Esp. on making carts!

Sonic

That man has a point though. The Xbox has the same spec as a high-end PC, so how are they going to be able to sell it so cheaply? Bill Gates isn;t really interested in conquering the market, he wants to make more money, so he wouldn't be so stupid as to sell it for less than it costs.

One more thing, why has he decided to use Pentiums? Everyone knows that AMDs are much better choices.

Edgy wrote:

>Who was it who said 'by the way who is
> BTW'?

I think that should be their tagline, if it were smaller...

Classic quotes worthy of George Bush, methinks.

the only figure I've heard for the price is £150 which must be rounded off cos things never sell to the exact pound.

But it is subject to change.

Who was it who said 'by the way who is BTW'?

Try reading that again if you're being serious!

Kid Rock wrote:
> game cube will be one hundred and fifty pounds and ninety nine
> pennys

I'd have thought it more likely to be one hundred and fourty-nine pounds and ninety nime pennys...