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Now ther's a controversial title! Before you post without reading what I have to say, please remember I have no doubt that Shigsy is one of the greatest (if not THE greatest games maker ever!). Nor am I saying that Nintendo games are anywhere next to excellent. Read on...
Several years ago, just as polygons were taking off and 2D games were thought to never be replaced, Shigsy Miyamoto was designing a new game. This was to be a 3D fighter unlike anything the world was to have seen. After spending years months working on the project he gave up. Nintendo were unable to create the game- it was too hartd to program.
Yet! In the same space of time, Sega had been making a very similar game to great effect. It was called Virtua Fighter, and the rest is history...
FAST-FORWARD TO THE PRESENT.
Nintendo are making Zelda 64. It is meant to take 2.5 years to make. Then it is delayed. And delayed. And delayed. Reason? It's taking longer than they thought (NOT they are perfecting it... perfection only takes a few months... the delays lasted a year and a half!)
Same story with many other of Nintendo's latest games.
So what's going wrong? Well, in my view one of 3things might be happening:
1) Overambition means that the games become so complicated they take a long time. However, if this is the case, then why should they underestimate the time needed to make the game so much?
2) The dev kits are too hard to work with. The is certainly a reason why Square abandonned the 64... but who programed the dev kit? Nintendo's r&d department!
3) Nintendo are simply bad at programming games. Now, I don't think that this is very likely... Ninty will use only the best programmers. However, these are the people who could not take to jump from 2d to 3d. Maybe they have not be trained in the new techniques being used, or do not have the flare shown by AM2- the team behing Virtua Fighter, F355,Shenmue and many many others!
So, that's the topic. I for one will wait as long as needed to play the next zelda... my 3rd fav game ever!!! However, while that's happening many other great games will be being made. There's something for u to debate over
Sonic
Several years ago, just as polygons were taking off and 2D games were thought to never be replaced, Shigsy Miyamoto was designing a new game. This was to be a 3D fighter unlike anything the world was to have seen. After spending years months working on the project he gave up. Nintendo were unable to create the game- it was too hartd to program.
Yet! In the same space of time, Sega had been making a very similar game to great effect. It was called Virtua Fighter, and the rest is history...
FAST-FORWARD TO THE PRESENT.
Nintendo are making Zelda 64. It is meant to take 2.5 years to make. Then it is delayed. And delayed. And delayed. Reason? It's taking longer than they thought (NOT they are perfecting it... perfection only takes a few months... the delays lasted a year and a half!)
Same story with many other of Nintendo's latest games.
So what's going wrong? Well, in my view one of 3things might be happening:
1) Overambition means that the games become so complicated they take a long time. However, if this is the case, then why should they underestimate the time needed to make the game so much?
2) The dev kits are too hard to work with. The is certainly a reason why Square abandonned the 64... but who programed the dev kit? Nintendo's r&d department!
3) Nintendo are simply bad at programming games. Now, I don't think that this is very likely... Ninty will use only the best programmers. However, these are the people who could not take to jump from 2d to 3d. Maybe they have not be trained in the new techniques being used, or do not have the flare shown by AM2- the team behing Virtua Fighter, F355,Shenmue and many many others!
So, that's the topic. I for one will wait as long as needed to play the next zelda... my 3rd fav game ever!!! However, while that's happening many other great games will be being made. There's something for u to debate over
Sonic
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You could be one of the first people around here to agree with me. I'm so glad.
Ant wrote:
> Zeldapro wrote:
> Only Reason that they take so long is because
> they create QUALITY
> games that are kick a$$, and they are
> better than Playstation
> games!
DO NOT say that without any
> proper reasons. You can't just say they're better than PSX games
> BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT! I think PSX games are better, but that's only
> because of my taste in games.
Also, Bonus is right, I find the
> Zelda games (along with most RPG's) terribly boring.
Ant wrote:
> Zeldapro wrote:
> Only Reason that they take so long is because
> they create QUALITY
> games that are kick a$$, and they are
> better than Playstation
> games!
DO NOT say that without any
> proper reasons. You can't just say they're better than PSX games
> BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT! I think PSX games are better, but that's only
> because of my taste in games.
Also, Bonus is right, I find the
> Zelda games (along with most RPG's) terribly boring.
Zeldapro wrote:
> Only Reason that they take so long is because they create QUALITY
> games that are kick a$$, and they are better than Playstation
> games!
DO NOT say that without any proper reasons. You can't just say they're better than PSX games BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT! I think PSX games are better, but that's only because of my taste in games.
Also, Bonus is right, I find the Zelda games (along with most RPG's) terribly boring.
> Only Reason that they take so long is because they create QUALITY
> games that are kick a$$, and they are better than Playstation
> games!
DO NOT say that without any proper reasons. You can't just say they're better than PSX games BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT! I think PSX games are better, but that's only because of my taste in games.
Also, Bonus is right, I find the Zelda games (along with most RPG's) terribly boring.
AAAHHHH! Shaddup!
I finished it, despite running aroung in the bloody big field for ages in the first half of the game! OOT doesn't hold any sort of a light to the brilliance of Link's Awakening.
Zelda was not Borin it was one of the greatest games ever known to man youre just no good at it!
I had an N64 and the best games on it were not made by Nntendo but Rare. Zelda OOT was, quite simply, boring. Although as Rare are a Nintendo exclusive developer, it is just sa good as Ninty making the games themselves and i'm sure they have a decent amount of input in the development, not to mention cash!!
Only Reason that they take so long is because they create QUALITY games that are kick a$$, and they are better than Playstation games!
2 of my nfav 3 games are ninty games! Mario cart and zelda! But why the delays?!!!
Sonic
Sonic
DOES SONIC RAV REALLY NEED A SLAP!?
Of course he does...:D
Nintendo make the best games ever....even Sonic adventure has it's faults! But not Mario 64!
I can't wait for the Gamecube....it really will be the experience of a life time....I just need
A Gamecube
Controller x 4
Memory Thingys
Biggest TV in the world
All the Release Titles and......
A POKÉMON GAME!
YEAH.....PIKA-PRIZES!
Of course he does...:D
Nintendo make the best games ever....even Sonic adventure has it's faults! But not Mario 64!
I can't wait for the Gamecube....it really will be the experience of a life time....I just need
A Gamecube
Controller x 4
Memory Thingys
Biggest TV in the world
All the Release Titles and......
A POKÉMON GAME!
YEAH.....PIKA-PRIZES!
Now ther's a controversial title! Before you post without reading what I have to say, please remember I have no doubt that Shigsy is one of the greatest (if not THE greatest games maker ever!). Nor am I saying that Nintendo games are anywhere next to excellent. Read on...
Several years ago, just as polygons were taking off and 2D games were thought to never be replaced, Shigsy Miyamoto was designing a new game. This was to be a 3D fighter unlike anything the world was to have seen. After spending years months working on the project he gave up. Nintendo were unable to create the game- it was too hartd to program.
Yet! In the same space of time, Sega had been making a very similar game to great effect. It was called Virtua Fighter, and the rest is history...
FAST-FORWARD TO THE PRESENT.
Nintendo are making Zelda 64. It is meant to take 2.5 years to make. Then it is delayed. And delayed. And delayed. Reason? It's taking longer than they thought (NOT they are perfecting it... perfection only takes a few months... the delays lasted a year and a half!)
Same story with many other of Nintendo's latest games.
So what's going wrong? Well, in my view one of 3things might be happening:
1) Overambition means that the games become so complicated they take a long time. However, if this is the case, then why should they underestimate the time needed to make the game so much?
2) The dev kits are too hard to work with. The is certainly a reason why Square abandonned the 64... but who programed the dev kit? Nintendo's r&d department!
3) Nintendo are simply bad at programming games. Now, I don't think that this is very likely... Ninty will use only the best programmers. However, these are the people who could not take to jump from 2d to 3d. Maybe they have not be trained in the new techniques being used, or do not have the flare shown by AM2- the team behing Virtua Fighter, F355,Shenmue and many many others!
So, that's the topic. I for one will wait as long as needed to play the next zelda... my 3rd fav game ever!!! However, while that's happening many other great games will be being made. There's something for u to debate over
Sonic
Several years ago, just as polygons were taking off and 2D games were thought to never be replaced, Shigsy Miyamoto was designing a new game. This was to be a 3D fighter unlike anything the world was to have seen. After spending years months working on the project he gave up. Nintendo were unable to create the game- it was too hartd to program.
Yet! In the same space of time, Sega had been making a very similar game to great effect. It was called Virtua Fighter, and the rest is history...
FAST-FORWARD TO THE PRESENT.
Nintendo are making Zelda 64. It is meant to take 2.5 years to make. Then it is delayed. And delayed. And delayed. Reason? It's taking longer than they thought (NOT they are perfecting it... perfection only takes a few months... the delays lasted a year and a half!)
Same story with many other of Nintendo's latest games.
So what's going wrong? Well, in my view one of 3things might be happening:
1) Overambition means that the games become so complicated they take a long time. However, if this is the case, then why should they underestimate the time needed to make the game so much?
2) The dev kits are too hard to work with. The is certainly a reason why Square abandonned the 64... but who programed the dev kit? Nintendo's r&d department!
3) Nintendo are simply bad at programming games. Now, I don't think that this is very likely... Ninty will use only the best programmers. However, these are the people who could not take to jump from 2d to 3d. Maybe they have not be trained in the new techniques being used, or do not have the flare shown by AM2- the team behing Virtua Fighter, F355,Shenmue and many many others!
So, that's the topic. I for one will wait as long as needed to play the next zelda... my 3rd fav game ever!!! However, while that's happening many other great games will be being made. There's something for u to debate over
Sonic
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