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I'm wondering exactly which retarded twit monkey came up with the idea for how Batista's push is going?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
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Compared to Michael Cole, JR is extremely good. I think I made a mention of a Michael Cole-ism in one of the 'review of the year' parts. I think he said something like 'he's bleeding like a sieve' because we all know kitchen utensils bleed...
Very_Metal wrote:
> the only thing i can think is that if they wanted a squash match, it
> would have been better for batista to get beaten down for a minute,
> then have him reverse something, hit a string of power moves and then
> his sit-down powerbomb and not have rhyno use the gore at all. that
> way rhyno gets to have enough offense so that he doesn't look like a
> wuss (again, commentators could point out that "no-one would get
> up after that succession of moves, etc") and batista gets his
> fast win AND come out looking like the monster character they're
> building.
>
Now that's how i would have done it if i was booking it, still makes Batista look strong but doesn't make Rhyno or his future opponents look weak
> JR's losing his marbles.
> the guy clearly loves the business and he's called some AWESOME
> matches and really made some moments come to life, but he gets so
> much stuff wrong these days, confusing moves, workers and his retorts
> to the king have been the same (or at least very similar) for ages
> now :(
I've gotten sick of him to be honest for the exact reasons you've stated, i wish they'd just replace him and let him go out with some dignity intact
> the only thing i can think is that if they wanted a squash match, it
> would have been better for batista to get beaten down for a minute,
> then have him reverse something, hit a string of power moves and then
> his sit-down powerbomb and not have rhyno use the gore at all. that
> way rhyno gets to have enough offense so that he doesn't look like a
> wuss (again, commentators could point out that "no-one would get
> up after that succession of moves, etc") and batista gets his
> fast win AND come out looking like the monster character they're
> building.
>
Now that's how i would have done it if i was booking it, still makes Batista look strong but doesn't make Rhyno or his future opponents look weak
> JR's losing his marbles.
> the guy clearly loves the business and he's called some AWESOME
> matches and really made some moments come to life, but he gets so
> much stuff wrong these days, confusing moves, workers and his retorts
> to the king have been the same (or at least very similar) for ages
> now :(
I've gotten sick of him to be honest for the exact reasons you've stated, i wish they'd just replace him and let him go out with some dignity intact
Kawada wrote:
> Very_Metal wrote:
> hmm, i do see your point, but both matches in question were pretty
> short, especially the Rhyno match, so it's not SO bad that he kicked
> out of that as he wasn't worn down.
>
> That's the point of a finisher though, once it gets hit that's meant
> to be the end of the match (as long as he pins him straight away)
the only thing i can think is that if they wanted a squash match, it would have been better for batista to get beaten down for a minute, then have him reverse something, hit a string of power moves and then his sit-down powerbomb and not have rhyno use the gore at all. that way rhyno gets to have enough offense so that he doesn't look like a wuss (again, commentators could point out that "no-one would get up after that succession of moves, etc") and batista gets his fast win AND come out looking like the monster character they're building.
> You're talking about the Coach and JR here VM, not exactly the
> sharpest tools in the box
JR's losing his marbles.
the guy clearly loves the business and he's called some AWESOME matches and really made some moments come to life, but he gets so much stuff wrong these days, confusing moves, workers and his retorts to the king have been the same (or at least very similar) for ages now :(
> Very_Metal wrote:
> hmm, i do see your point, but both matches in question were pretty
> short, especially the Rhyno match, so it's not SO bad that he kicked
> out of that as he wasn't worn down.
>
> That's the point of a finisher though, once it gets hit that's meant
> to be the end of the match (as long as he pins him straight away)
the only thing i can think is that if they wanted a squash match, it would have been better for batista to get beaten down for a minute, then have him reverse something, hit a string of power moves and then his sit-down powerbomb and not have rhyno use the gore at all. that way rhyno gets to have enough offense so that he doesn't look like a wuss (again, commentators could point out that "no-one would get up after that succession of moves, etc") and batista gets his fast win AND come out looking like the monster character they're building.
> You're talking about the Coach and JR here VM, not exactly the
> sharpest tools in the box
JR's losing his marbles.
the guy clearly loves the business and he's called some AWESOME matches and really made some moments come to life, but he gets so much stuff wrong these days, confusing moves, workers and his retorts to the king have been the same (or at least very similar) for ages now :(
Very_Metal wrote:
> hmm, i do see your point, but both matches in question were pretty
> short, especially the Rhyno match, so it's not SO bad that he kicked
> out of that as he wasn't worn down.
That's the point of a finisher though, once it gets hit that's meant to be the end of the match (as long as he pins him straight away)
> perhaps the commentators should've thought ahead on this one and
> slipped in a line about how "no-one else would be able to do
> that!!!! OMG KING!, etc" so it at least gets stated that it's an
> incredible event and not something that happens easily, thus not
> making benoit look so easy.
You're talking about the Coach and JR here VM, not exactly the sharpest tools in the box
> hmm, i do see your point, but both matches in question were pretty
> short, especially the Rhyno match, so it's not SO bad that he kicked
> out of that as he wasn't worn down.
That's the point of a finisher though, once it gets hit that's meant to be the end of the match (as long as he pins him straight away)
> perhaps the commentators should've thought ahead on this one and
> slipped in a line about how "no-one else would be able to do
> that!!!! OMG KING!, etc" so it at least gets stated that it's an
> incredible event and not something that happens easily, thus not
> making benoit look so easy.
You're talking about the Coach and JR here VM, not exactly the sharpest tools in the box
hmm, i do see your point, but both matches in question were pretty short, especially the Rhyno match, so it's not SO bad that he kicked out of that as he wasn't worn down.
However, the benoit match was an interesting one, while i appreciate that Batista is being billed as being ludicrously strong, i agree that in hindsight it didn't do much for benoit or the crossface, but it was nicely done! :)
perhaps the commentators should've thought ahead on this one and slipped in a line about how "no-one else would be able to do that!!!! OMG KING!, etc" so it at least gets stated that it's an incredible event and not something that happens easily, thus not making benoit look so easy.
However, the benoit match was an interesting one, while i appreciate that Batista is being billed as being ludicrously strong, i agree that in hindsight it didn't do much for benoit or the crossface, but it was nicely done! :)
perhaps the commentators should've thought ahead on this one and slipped in a line about how "no-one else would be able to do that!!!! OMG KING!, etc" so it at least gets stated that it's an incredible event and not something that happens easily, thus not making benoit look so easy.
I'm wondering exactly which retarded twit monkey came up with the idea for how Batista's push is going?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
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