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I'm wondering exactly which retarded twit monkey came up with the idea for how Batista's push is going?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
In 2 weeks he's made two wrestlers look pathetic by powering out of one finisher after it had been clamped in and making Benoit look like nothing (what's wrong with using the ropes to break the hold and then let him fight back and unleash his finisher?) and kicking straight out of Rhyno's gore.
The best type of push is to make the wrestler look strong while not making the guys he's going over look pathetic, which has happened in both instances. I've always thought it an unwritten rule in wrestling that if you get hit with the guy's finisher and he pins you straight away you don't get back up out of it because for every person that gets pinned by that finisher from there on it makes them also look pathetic to the other guy.
And another example of more great creative decisions when you have a Cruiserweight title match going on yet the camera is on some guy outside the ring for half of the match. It devalues the belt (although we all know what Vince thinks of anyone under 6 foot 3) and makes those 2 wrestlers seem like nothing even though both Funaki and Akio have more talent in their little finger then Carlito has in his whole body and afro.
God how has the WWE not gone out of business yet?
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Agree to differ eh?
I do see your point, but i am sticking with mine!
I do see your point, but i am sticking with mine!
Wardy_MoD wrote:
> But hardly any finishing moves get pulled of within the first minute
> of a match, they are usually countered. When they are pulled off
> quickly(e.g. the two minute match between Rhyno/Tajiri Vs La
> Resistance) then they do usually do the job, but only crap people get
> the finisher done to them in the first couple of minutes and then
> actually lose.
kind of missed my point totally there eh?
>
> Are you telling me that if i ran at you and Gore'd you and that was
> the only move i done, and you were the size of Bstista, that you
> would not kick out?
*sighs*
> But hardly any finishing moves get pulled of within the first minute
> of a match, they are usually countered. When they are pulled off
> quickly(e.g. the two minute match between Rhyno/Tajiri Vs La
> Resistance) then they do usually do the job, but only crap people get
> the finisher done to them in the first couple of minutes and then
> actually lose.
kind of missed my point totally there eh?
>
> Are you telling me that if i ran at you and Gore'd you and that was
> the only move i done, and you were the size of Bstista, that you
> would not kick out?
*sighs*
But hardly any finishing moves get pulled of within the first minute of a match, they are usually countered. When they are pulled off quickly(e.g. the two minute match between Rhyno/Tajiri Vs La Resistance) then they do usually do the job, but only crap people get the finisher done to them in the first couple of minutes and then actually lose.
Are you telling me that if i ran at you and Gore'd you and that was the only move i done, and you were the size of Bstista, that you would not kick out?
Are you telling me that if i ran at you and Gore'd you and that was the only move i done, and you were the size of Bstista, that you would not kick out?
well then they can't be called finishing moves can they if that's the case
Kawada wrote:
> Let's look at HHH's stats
>
> Banging the boss' daughter
>
>
> ding ding ding!!! we have a winner
However, i do agree with you here!
> Let's look at HHH's stats
>
> Banging the boss' daughter
>
>
> ding ding ding!!! we have a winner
However, i do agree with you here!
Now that is very very very true..
Kawada wrote:
> the idea of a finishing move is just that, it finishes off the
> opponent whether it be in the first second of the match or the first
> hour
A finisher is meant to be powerful, but a lot of finishers wouldnt win the match in the first second, especially against someone like Batista. I would expect the top stars to kick out of some finishers, not all, but from some of the smaller players like Rhyno who is not really World Heavyweight Champ Material. Some top stars kick out of the pedigree if it takes Triple H three seconds before he makes the cover, and this is like 25 minutes into the match, therefore i would expect a fresh person to kick out.
> the idea of a finishing move is just that, it finishes off the
> opponent whether it be in the first second of the match or the first
> hour
A finisher is meant to be powerful, but a lot of finishers wouldnt win the match in the first second, especially against someone like Batista. I would expect the top stars to kick out of some finishers, not all, but from some of the smaller players like Rhyno who is not really World Heavyweight Champ Material. Some top stars kick out of the pedigree if it takes Triple H three seconds before he makes the cover, and this is like 25 minutes into the match, therefore i would expect a fresh person to kick out.
Let's look at HHH's stats
Banging the boss' daughter
ding ding ding!!! we have a winner
Banging the boss' daughter
ding ding ding!!! we have a winner
Wardy_MoD wrote:
> The Rhyno situation, i agree with an earlier post that the match was
> very short and the Gore was within the first minute if i remember
> correctly, therefore Batista would not have been kept down that
> easily (although he did get pinned by a Maven roll-up at one time)
the idea of a finishing move is just that, it finishes off the opponent whether it be in the first second of the match or the first hour
> The Rhyno situation, i agree with an earlier post that the match was
> very short and the Gore was within the first minute if i remember
> correctly, therefore Batista would not have been kept down that
> easily (although he did get pinned by a Maven roll-up at one time)
the idea of a finishing move is just that, it finishes off the opponent whether it be in the first second of the match or the first hour
Look at Batista's stats.
Bloody Powerful
Winner of the Rumble
About to have a big break up/rivalry with the World Heavyweight Champ
I am pretty sure he will get the title, even if it is not at Wrestlemania, he will get it during his carreer.
Bloody Powerful
Winner of the Rumble
About to have a big break up/rivalry with the World Heavyweight Champ
I am pretty sure he will get the title, even if it is not at Wrestlemania, he will get it during his carreer.
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