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is it just me, or do other people do it too?
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Haldisa wrote:
> But what about the people who self harm and no one ever knows about
> it? This clearly isnt attention seeking, not even necessarily a cry
> for help, just a release for them when they feel there is no other
> way to release what they are feeling at that moment.
Maybe there are some people who do it, keep it covered up, don't say anything, but still know that they want someone to see it.
Is there even a person in the world who does it and doesn't want someone to see it? I don't know that, and there may be someone here who feels like they do it 'just for themselves', but that's the only part I don't understand. Are they really doing it for themselves?
It may be a form of releasing, which I do agree can be a good way, but there are a bazillion other ways to release. Most of them are quiet ways in which nobody hardly ever notices, so maybe that results in turning to slicing the arms up, so someone can actually say to you: "Go see a psychiatrist." Surely that's what they want.
It's a sad thing! And very touchy. ;)
> But what about the people who self harm and no one ever knows about
> it? This clearly isnt attention seeking, not even necessarily a cry
> for help, just a release for them when they feel there is no other
> way to release what they are feeling at that moment.
Maybe there are some people who do it, keep it covered up, don't say anything, but still know that they want someone to see it.
Is there even a person in the world who does it and doesn't want someone to see it? I don't know that, and there may be someone here who feels like they do it 'just for themselves', but that's the only part I don't understand. Are they really doing it for themselves?
It may be a form of releasing, which I do agree can be a good way, but there are a bazillion other ways to release. Most of them are quiet ways in which nobody hardly ever notices, so maybe that results in turning to slicing the arms up, so someone can actually say to you: "Go see a psychiatrist." Surely that's what they want.
It's a sad thing! And very touchy. ;)
But ... but ... I cried for you, gaybys.
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Goatboy wrote:
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
> Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
> Penis.
Hahahahaha.
I thought the whole clichéd Satan/Manson/Emptiness thing was enough to make the sarcasm clear :' {.
I have the same view as you.
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
> Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
> Penis.
Hahahahaha.
I thought the whole clichéd Satan/Manson/Emptiness thing was enough to make the sarcasm clear :' {.
I have the same view as you.
Goatboy wrote:
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
> ---
>
> "I cut myself too, man :' {
> I can't help it.
>
> I'm feel like I'm empty inside :' {
> I need some reassurance that I'm not, and seeing my own blood is the
> closest I can get.
>
> The world is against me. Everyone is out to get me.
> I have to sit here in my room, curtains drawn at all times, otherwise
> there's no telling what might happen.
>
> Marylin Manson keeps me sane though. Thank Satan for music.
>
> :' {"
>
> ----
>
> Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
> Penis.
he wos takin the pis u total moron
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
> ---
>
> "I cut myself too, man :' {
> I can't help it.
>
> I'm feel like I'm empty inside :' {
> I need some reassurance that I'm not, and seeing my own blood is the
> closest I can get.
>
> The world is against me. Everyone is out to get me.
> I have to sit here in my room, curtains drawn at all times, otherwise
> there's no telling what might happen.
>
> Marylin Manson keeps me sane though. Thank Satan for music.
>
> :' {"
>
> ----
>
> Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
> Penis.
he wos takin the pis u total moron
Goatboy wrote:
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
But that is just one person, hardly worth forming an opinon around what one person says now is it, its better to look at different aspects and then form an opinion in general dont you think.
> Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person
> that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram
> Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
But that is just one person, hardly worth forming an opinon around what one person says now is it, its better to look at different aspects and then form an opinion in general dont you think.
Goatboy wrote:
> But yet again, subsections of what used to be a decent forum fail to
> grasp the fundamentals of a post and get all pissy over nothing.
It's all opinions sir, you give yours and i give mine and the above would be another of your opinions stated as facts.
It's been fun anyway
> But yet again, subsections of what used to be a decent forum fail to
> grasp the fundamentals of a post and get all pissy over nothing.
It's all opinions sir, you give yours and i give mine and the above would be another of your opinions stated as facts.
It's been fun anyway
Haldisa wrote:
> but I dont understand how you still generalise them as attention seekers and suicide-wannabes when clearly not all are.
------
Because look at the posts in this thread.
It's hardly an in-depth sociological study of the phenomenom of self-harm is it?
The one post offered by somebody that claims to be one of these people spouts the exact generic Plath-lite rubbish that boils my blood.
If you choose to slash yourself? Fine, go ahead, carve ornate symbols into your face if you wish.
But if you offer up sub-moronic statements about sitting with the curtains closed? Then I'm going to pick at that scab and try to topple them into genuine self-loathing.
It's one thing to do that, it's quite another to force it upon others with badly written odes to misery as in here.
If you choose to try and engender sympathy and hugs with a cliche nu-metal statement of angiush, them I choose to laugh in your face and highlight the twee nature of your "problems, maaaaan"
Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
---
"I cut myself too, man :' {
I can't help it.
I'm feel like I'm empty inside :' {
I need some reassurance that I'm not, and seeing my own blood is the closest I can get.
The world is against me. Everyone is out to get me.
I have to sit here in my room, curtains drawn at all times, otherwise there's no telling what might happen.
Marylin Manson keeps me sane though. Thank Satan for music.
:' {"
----
Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
Penis.
> but I dont understand how you still generalise them as attention seekers and suicide-wannabes when clearly not all are.
------
Because look at the posts in this thread.
It's hardly an in-depth sociological study of the phenomenom of self-harm is it?
The one post offered by somebody that claims to be one of these people spouts the exact generic Plath-lite rubbish that boils my blood.
If you choose to slash yourself? Fine, go ahead, carve ornate symbols into your face if you wish.
But if you offer up sub-moronic statements about sitting with the curtains closed? Then I'm going to pick at that scab and try to topple them into genuine self-loathing.
It's one thing to do that, it's quite another to force it upon others with badly written odes to misery as in here.
If you choose to try and engender sympathy and hugs with a cliche nu-metal statement of angiush, them I choose to laugh in your face and highlight the twee nature of your "problems, maaaaan"
Go read the post near the start and tell me that I'm the only person that wants to smack that little goth hard enough to knock the Bram Stoker novel that he's gumming from his mouth.
---
"I cut myself too, man :' {
I can't help it.
I'm feel like I'm empty inside :' {
I need some reassurance that I'm not, and seeing my own blood is the closest I can get.
The world is against me. Everyone is out to get me.
I have to sit here in my room, curtains drawn at all times, otherwise there's no telling what might happen.
Marylin Manson keeps me sane though. Thank Satan for music.
:' {"
----
Replete with little sad emoticon face and everything.
Penis.
Claim a moral victory? I didnt realise this was a battle.
Look, I'm going to make this my final post because I refuse to get drawn into an argument about a subject that I hold no sympathy for -
Just because I say that I feel a certain way about a subject, doesn't make it so, does it?
If I say that I find self-harmers to be infantile attention seekers that need to stop reading William Blake and kidding themselves that anybody but them gives one iota of crap about them - it's me saying how I feel.
I'm not saying that's the case, it's my perception.
I'm not arguing facts, I'm not disputing evidence offered.
I'm not refusing to listen to wrenching stories of anguish.
I'm not Belldandy trying to twist his views around on a subject.
I'm not Forest Fan clamping his hands over his ears and shouting "lalacan'thearyoulala"
I'm saying that I don't care what anybody thinks about how I percieve a group of people I have zero tolerance for.
But yet again, subsections of what used to be a decent forum fail to grasp the fundamentals of a post and get all pissy over nothing.
I'll leave you to have the final world and claim moral victory.
Just because I say that I feel a certain way about a subject, doesn't make it so, does it?
If I say that I find self-harmers to be infantile attention seekers that need to stop reading William Blake and kidding themselves that anybody but them gives one iota of crap about them - it's me saying how I feel.
I'm not saying that's the case, it's my perception.
I'm not arguing facts, I'm not disputing evidence offered.
I'm not refusing to listen to wrenching stories of anguish.
I'm not Belldandy trying to twist his views around on a subject.
I'm not Forest Fan clamping his hands over his ears and shouting "lalacan'thearyoulala"
I'm saying that I don't care what anybody thinks about how I percieve a group of people I have zero tolerance for.
But yet again, subsections of what used to be a decent forum fail to grasp the fundamentals of a post and get all pissy over nothing.
I'll leave you to have the final world and claim moral victory.
I accept how you view cutters, I dont have a problem with that as it is your opinion after all, I can understand why you have no sympathy or compassion for them as you dont have an understanding of their feelings or reasoning, but I dont understand how you still generalise them as attention seekers and suicide-wannabes when clearly not all are.
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