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Sat 04/12/04 at 20:02
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is it just me, or do other people do it too?
Thu 09/12/04 at 23:44
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Why can't you slash your necks instead of lightly grazing your pale malnourished arms?
Thu 09/12/04 at 23:43
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So someone who stopped smoking isnt an ex-smoker then Light? Of course they are, its something they did and dont anymore, it doesnt define them, it merely defines something they once did.
Thu 09/12/04 at 22:13
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Just with regard to the point about seeking help for cutting that you three have been arguing over; the former Mrs Light informed me that one of the reasons she had difficulty getting help was that she defined herself by her cutting and body dysmorphia.

In other words, the help was there for her. But she wouldn't accept it, fearing that she'd "lose" a part of who she was. Just look at the language used in this thread; people defining themselves as "ex-cutters" or "cutters". No-one is a cutter or otherwise. Y'all are just people. Quit defining yourselves by what you do and have a think about what you are.
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:47
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Novocaine wrote:
> lcarus wrote:
> They have their own minds. They can therefore decide what to filter
> out.
>
> So it's them on their own against society which thinks that theyre
> pathetic attention seeking teens who should stop feeling sorry for
> themselves and get a job, yeah right.

Damn, more content filler coming straight from your ass. Did I mention teens? And no, just making the decision to filter out who to listen and who not when looking for advice.

> Oh and i object to knife hobbyists, makes it sound like it's fun and
> something of a choice.

Well I object to you being a emotionally breakable perv, so what?
Defn. is that it's persued primarily for pleasure; they see it as a "release valve", so it is.

>
>
>
> More proof of this is the way those who constantly defend this
> stupid
> activity always fall back on the same, overarching reason: "you
> haven't cut yourself, so you wouldn't understand".
>

>
> And where exactly have i falied, i dont need to fall back on it,
> either you get it or you dont and you're way off.

Failed as in whenever someone makes a point, and the other has nothing to fall back on other than that reason.

>
>
> Course it shouldn't be acceptable but it's denied as a nonsense used
> by attention seekers when it's no such thing.
>
> So is that why there are clinics, helplines already setup especially
> for them?
>
> Why would anyone get help for a problem theyre told doesn't exist ?

Uh, I doubt these help centres will say that.
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:39
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Haldisa wrote:

> Im going to assume Icarus that you also think every case of self harm
> is by teenagers or people who started it when they were a teenager,
> because you seem to have the view that most others share who usually
> then add "its a teenager seeking attention thing"

When have I mentioned the teenager thing?
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:23
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lcarus wrote:
> They have their own minds. They can therefore decide what to filter
> out.

So it's them on their own against society which thinks that theyre pathetic attention seeking teens who should stop feeling sorry for themselves and get a job, yeah right.
Oh and i object to knife hobbyists, makes it sound like it's fun and something of a choice.

>
>
> More proof of this is the way those who constantly defend this
> stupid
> activity always fall back on the same, overarching reason: "you
> haven't cut yourself, so you wouldn't understand".
>
> Simple but true
>
> Hence you can always fall back on it when all else fails, eh?

And where exactly have i falied, i dont need to fall back on it, either you get it or you dont and you're way off.


> Course it shouldn't be acceptable but it's denied as a nonsense used
> by attention seekers when it's no such thing.
>
> So is that why there are clinics, helplines already setup especially
> for them?

Why would anyone get help for a problem theyre told doesn't exist ?
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:17
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lcarus wrote:
> Haldisa wrote:
> Iccy:
>
> 3. Im guessung you've never cut as you've shown little understanding
> of it, which would surely only strengthen my point. If you have cut,
> then Im very surprised at the lack of understanding, unless of
> course
> you're one of the people you refer to.
>
> Aha, see what I mean? Same ol' reason.


Same true reason as is consistently being confirmed in this thread.

Im going to assume Icarus that you also think every case of self harm is by teenagers or people who started it when they were a teenager, because you seem to have the view that most others share who usually then add "its a teenager seeking attention thing"
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:15
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Novocaine wrote:
> lcarus wrote:
> Haldisa wrote:
> I think self harming is one of those things that you dont understand
> until you've done it yourself. Ive come across very few people that
> havent done it that say they understand why someone would do it.
>
> That's like saying, "I have a problem, but you can't understand
> because I'm black and you're white!!111"; a substantial number
> of these knife hobbyists have problems, know that there are
> solutions
> to their troubles but actually withdraw from taking upon these
> changes because right now they feel some exclusivity; part of a
> closed membership that they dare not venture out of because doing so
> would just makes them "normal" again. And who wants to be
> *just* normal in a world filled with 6 billion of the same species,
> eh?
>
> These " knife hobbyists " withdraw from getting help
> because of the sort of attitudes seen in this thread, being told your
> pathetic is really going to give them some confidence to deal with a
> problem that you're told doesn't actually exist.

They have their own minds. They can therefore decide what to filter out.
>
>
> More proof of this is the way those who constantly defend this
> stupid
> activity always fall back on the same, overarching reason: "you
> haven't cut yourself, so you wouldn't understand".
>
> Simple but true

Hence you can always fall back on it when all else fails, eh?
>
>
> You're actually defending this action, defending why cutting
> yourself
> should be accepted. A genuine slicer who genuinely wants to stop
> doing harm to themselves are not likely to defend the act of cutting
> themselves, more looking at ways to finding a long term solution.
>
> Course it shouldn't be acceptable but it's denied as a nonsense used
> by attention seekers when it's no such thing.

So is that why there are clinics, helplines already setup especially for them?
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:12
Posts: 15,443
Haldisa wrote:
> Iccy:

> 3. Im guessung you've never cut as you've shown little understanding
> of it, which would surely only strengthen my point. If you have cut,
> then Im very surprised at the lack of understanding, unless of course
> you're one of the people you refer to.

Aha, see what I mean? Same ol' reason.
Thu 09/12/04 at 20:03
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"Monochromatic"
Posts: 18,487
lcarus wrote:
> Haldisa wrote:
> I think self harming is one of those things that you dont understand
> until you've done it yourself. Ive come across very few people that
> havent done it that say they understand why someone would do it.
>
> That's like saying, "I have a problem, but you can't understand
> because I'm black and you're white!!111"; a substantial number
> of these knife hobbyists have problems, know that there are solutions
> to their troubles but actually withdraw from taking upon these
> changes because right now they feel some exclusivity; part of a
> closed membership that they dare not venture out of because doing so
> would just makes them "normal" again. And who wants to be
> *just* normal in a world filled with 6 billion of the same species,
> eh?

These " knife hobbyists " withdraw from getting help because of the sort of attitudes seen in this thread, being told your pathetic is really going to give them some confidence to deal with a problem that you're told doesn't actually exist.


> More proof of this is the way those who constantly defend this stupid
> activity always fall back on the same, overarching reason: "you
> haven't cut yourself, so you wouldn't understand".

Simple but true


> You're actually defending this action, defending why cutting yourself
> should be accepted. A genuine slicer who genuinely wants to stop
> doing harm to themselves are not likely to defend the act of cutting
> themselves, more looking at ways to finding a long term solution.

Course it shouldn't be acceptable but it's denied as a nonsense used by attention seekers when it's no such thing.

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