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This is an issue close to my heart and I know its said many times but i'm saying it again.
I went into my local GAME yesterday and to my amazement the Gamecube shelf space has shrunk even smaller. It really was a pitiful sight and quite embarrassing for a die hard Nintendo fan.
The shelf space is now just one block. There were the usual top five slots which were virtually empty and then the 'selection' of naff games underneath. Now yes I suppose you could look at it 2 ways, either they've all sold out (which is laughably unlikely) or that GAME just can't be ars*d with the Gamecube anymore (which I KNOW is whats happening).
Woollies now have hardly any Gamecube stuff. Dixons, Currys, Comet and all those electrical retailers stopped selling it months ago and it looks like even GAME are now on the 'dump Cube' runaway train.
3 years into the life of the N64 was better than this and that was considered a commercial flop.
I went into my local GAME yesterday and to my amazement the Gamecube shelf space has shrunk even smaller. It really was a pitiful sight and quite embarrassing for a die hard Nintendo fan.
The shelf space is now just one block. There were the usual top five slots which were virtually empty and then the 'selection' of naff games underneath. Now yes I suppose you could look at it 2 ways, either they've all sold out (which is laughably unlikely) or that GAME just can't be ars*d with the Gamecube anymore (which I KNOW is whats happening).
Woollies now have hardly any Gamecube stuff. Dixons, Currys, Comet and all those electrical retailers stopped selling it months ago and it looks like even GAME are now on the 'dump Cube' runaway train.
3 years into the life of the N64 was better than this and that was considered a commercial flop.
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Oh Gerrid if you want all Tony Hawks games, Turok, the first Spiderman, all the harry potters, the first 3 FIFA games, the first selection of sports titles etc... then please do.
But there isn't THAT many Gamecube games out there.
I was excluding the pre-owned stuff though in this.
The majority of Gamecube games can be found in these stores. All the top end games such as Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, MEtroid and other players choice titles can be found. 1080 is in there at bargain prices, all of EA's stock is lying around somewhere, Harvest Moon, Tales, Resident Evil...
Actually I think there might be closer to 100.
I'll go in there and make a rough estimate when I'm back at Uni.
But there isn't THAT many Gamecube games out there.
I was excluding the pre-owned stuff though in this.
The majority of Gamecube games can be found in these stores. All the top end games such as Mario, Zelda, Pokemon, MEtroid and other players choice titles can be found. 1080 is in there at bargain prices, all of EA's stock is lying around somewhere, Harvest Moon, Tales, Resident Evil...
Actually I think there might be closer to 100.
I'll go in there and make a rough estimate when I'm back at Uni.
50 games is hardly a good selection out of 250 is it? that's 1/5th. That's a 1 in 5 chance of me finding the game that I actually want. If GAME can stock 250 Xbox games why can't they stock 250 Cube games? It doesn't make sense!
I've forgotten what we're actually discussing here - I think it was how GAME don't adequately support the GC giving us less choice. I'm not saying it's their fault, in fact it's more likely Nintendo's fault, but that doesn't matter. I just wish that I could go into GAME, get games for £20-£30 instead of £40, and actually get the games that I want.
I've forgotten what we're actually discussing here - I think it was how GAME don't adequately support the GC giving us less choice. I'm not saying it's their fault, in fact it's more likely Nintendo's fault, but that doesn't matter. I just wish that I could go into GAME, get games for £20-£30 instead of £40, and actually get the games that I want.
I've never experience GAME not get a Gamecube title in. The only time it happened was when a shipment of Second Sight titles were a little late or something.
They always have the new titles, just, unlike the PS2, they don't take up half the shelf!!!!
Game have a specific section for the Gamecube, it is Nintendo's job to make it bigger by paying more. Sony and Microsoft do!
Being at the back of the shop, as I've said, isn't an issue because the section that first hits you is the new-release section and then the pre-owned section. The individual sections go around the store.
250 Gamecube games Vs. 500 X-box games Vs. 200,000 PS2 games...
GAME do not stock 250 Gamecube games no, probably about 50, and the X-box, probably about 80 whilst the PS2??? Lets saying a good few hundred.
Proportionally we're doing rather well :)
Personally I find GAME shops great for the Gamecube. There are tonnes of Gamecube posters, GAME do good prices on Gamecube games, many cheaper than the X-box and PS2 versions of the same game! GAME say the Gamecube is their system of choice. And they really tried to make Metroid Prime 2 seem like a competitor to Halo.
It's like all the EA bashing. You know they're not that bad!!!!
Not that it matters. I'm sure you have bigger things to worry about.
They always have the new titles, just, unlike the PS2, they don't take up half the shelf!!!!
Game have a specific section for the Gamecube, it is Nintendo's job to make it bigger by paying more. Sony and Microsoft do!
Being at the back of the shop, as I've said, isn't an issue because the section that first hits you is the new-release section and then the pre-owned section. The individual sections go around the store.
250 Gamecube games Vs. 500 X-box games Vs. 200,000 PS2 games...
GAME do not stock 250 Gamecube games no, probably about 50, and the X-box, probably about 80 whilst the PS2??? Lets saying a good few hundred.
Proportionally we're doing rather well :)
Personally I find GAME shops great for the Gamecube. There are tonnes of Gamecube posters, GAME do good prices on Gamecube games, many cheaper than the X-box and PS2 versions of the same game! GAME say the Gamecube is their system of choice. And they really tried to make Metroid Prime 2 seem like a competitor to Halo.
It's like all the EA bashing. You know they're not that bad!!!!
Not that it matters. I'm sure you have bigger things to worry about.
There are upwards of 250 Gamecube games, which is hardly "none", now, is it? And there may be more PS2 games but the amount of games you'd actually consider playing is probably less.
Now think about that - if the the GC shelves are smaller, it looks like there's less games, and so people think it's rubbish. Then they don't buy games, GC games diminish in number in the stores and we have less choice. It's simple, and I've seen it happening. The GC sections have been made smaller and they HAVE been shunted to the back where they're less likely to sell, I've seen it happen and according to a lot of these posts, so have many other people.
If I'm looking for a specific game (not necessarily a new release), let's say NFL Street which I was looking around for the other day, and my only option is a GAME shop. They didn't have it, yet they had the PS2 and Xbox versions. Now why is that do you think? The GC section is smaller with a smaller selection of games so i'm less likely to find the one I want. That is not a good thing. In the end I bought it from CDWOW and I won't get it for another 2 weeks. Great, that's just what I wanted. If the GC was better supported, and GAME or anywhere else actually stocked the vairety of GC games then I wouldn't have had a problem, would I?
Now think about that - if the the GC shelves are smaller, it looks like there's less games, and so people think it's rubbish. Then they don't buy games, GC games diminish in number in the stores and we have less choice. It's simple, and I've seen it happening. The GC sections have been made smaller and they HAVE been shunted to the back where they're less likely to sell, I've seen it happen and according to a lot of these posts, so have many other people.
If I'm looking for a specific game (not necessarily a new release), let's say NFL Street which I was looking around for the other day, and my only option is a GAME shop. They didn't have it, yet they had the PS2 and Xbox versions. Now why is that do you think? The GC section is smaller with a smaller selection of games so i'm less likely to find the one I want. That is not a good thing. In the end I bought it from CDWOW and I won't get it for another 2 weeks. Great, that's just what I wanted. If the GC was better supported, and GAME or anywhere else actually stocked the vairety of GC games then I wouldn't have had a problem, would I?
GAME have supported the Gamecube consistantly since launch. Their sections haven't got any smaller or any larger. They've been perfectly fine.
GAME and Gamestation sell a large quantity of Gamecube software.
And places like woolworths, HMV, Virgin etc... don't sell the majority of Gamecube games but then they don't for any console. These are CD retailers (bar woolworths which is a bit of everything), their games sections are always small compared to the store filled with CD's and DVD's. People rarely buy from these stores, there is less choice on the Gamecube yes but there is less choice for the other systems.
I take back my criticism of HMV actually, they advertise all consoles equally, the one in Cambridge again has a section as large as the PS2's and X-box's.... and in fact it is the GBA section which gets the largest amount of space.
These shops are places where gamers might get the cheap games from, if they are doing a deal we could pick up a bargain.
But people who already own consoles will go to their independant retailer, or GAME, or Gamestation, or Gametron, or CEX, or Entertainment Base or whatever! To get their titles. I've never once, ever, had a problem getting a game. Some people mentioned SKIES and Harvest Moon when they were first released. I got them both and had a choice of shops to get thems from.
Places like HMV and Virgin only want to sell the console really. And if you walk into one of these, see Metroid Prime, Mario Kart, Zelda, Mario Sunshine, Sonic etc... then that'll make you buy the console. They don't need to stock the likes of Viewtiful Joe, Tales, Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing because, to be honest, these will hardly shift Gamecube's.
Personally I don't think this effects the Gamecube at all. You can get a good selection of games and the console in every town in this country. I did not say less choice = good. But we own a Gamecube, the console has so few games it is not very good at all.
Think about the PS2, there are hundreds of thousands of PS2 titles, there is almost 50% more X-box titles than the Gamecube. These sections are bigger because there are just that much more games!
The Gamcube is the cult console, it does not sell much and there are not many titles avalible for it. But you can pick up every game released last year for it from most Game retailers and there is online shopping. Which, for gaming in paritcular, is huge!
GAME and Gamestation sell a large quantity of Gamecube software.
And places like woolworths, HMV, Virgin etc... don't sell the majority of Gamecube games but then they don't for any console. These are CD retailers (bar woolworths which is a bit of everything), their games sections are always small compared to the store filled with CD's and DVD's. People rarely buy from these stores, there is less choice on the Gamecube yes but there is less choice for the other systems.
I take back my criticism of HMV actually, they advertise all consoles equally, the one in Cambridge again has a section as large as the PS2's and X-box's.... and in fact it is the GBA section which gets the largest amount of space.
These shops are places where gamers might get the cheap games from, if they are doing a deal we could pick up a bargain.
But people who already own consoles will go to their independant retailer, or GAME, or Gamestation, or Gametron, or CEX, or Entertainment Base or whatever! To get their titles. I've never once, ever, had a problem getting a game. Some people mentioned SKIES and Harvest Moon when they were first released. I got them both and had a choice of shops to get thems from.
Places like HMV and Virgin only want to sell the console really. And if you walk into one of these, see Metroid Prime, Mario Kart, Zelda, Mario Sunshine, Sonic etc... then that'll make you buy the console. They don't need to stock the likes of Viewtiful Joe, Tales, Harvest Moon and Animal Crossing because, to be honest, these will hardly shift Gamecube's.
Personally I don't think this effects the Gamecube at all. You can get a good selection of games and the console in every town in this country. I did not say less choice = good. But we own a Gamecube, the console has so few games it is not very good at all.
Think about the PS2, there are hundreds of thousands of PS2 titles, there is almost 50% more X-box titles than the Gamecube. These sections are bigger because there are just that much more games!
The Gamcube is the cult console, it does not sell much and there are not many titles avalible for it. But you can pick up every game released last year for it from most Game retailers and there is online shopping. Which, for gaming in paritcular, is huge!
gamesfreak wrote:
> I went into Virgin Megastores today.
>
> The Gamecube section/stand thing probably only measured about 1m x
> 1.25 metres and had a few games on it.
>
> No accessories, they've even stopped selling the console for christs
> sake.
The Virgin Megastore near me has stopped selling anything to do with Gamecube but I walked past GAME today and noticed that they've had a shuffle around and put all of the Gamecube stuff at the front of the shop. They seemed to have more shelf space too.
> I went into Virgin Megastores today.
>
> The Gamecube section/stand thing probably only measured about 1m x
> 1.25 metres and had a few games on it.
>
> No accessories, they've even stopped selling the console for christs
> sake.
The Virgin Megastore near me has stopped selling anything to do with Gamecube but I walked past GAME today and noticed that they've had a shuffle around and put all of the Gamecube stuff at the front of the shop. They seemed to have more shelf space too.
You are obviously lucky, but usually I find that when I travel out of London, and sometimes in London, GAME stores and other shops have very measly selections of games. You say that most will only stock the best sellers, and that's fair enough, but it's not a GOOD thing, is it?
Are you seriously trying to say that less choice = good? If I could go to my local game shop and buy the same selection of games on the high street as I could online for the same price, then I would do it every time, the reason that I don't is because the choice is more limited. I haven't bought a game from a high street retailer in over a year, and I've bought A LOT of games in that time. It's not like I don't visit game shops, either, I'm often in Gamestation, GAME, CEX and all the others that you mention, and I never find a particularly varied selection of Gamecube games. They're always right at the back on a small shelf, there is a distinct lack of accessories.
All I'm saying is that diminishing support for GC in stores DOES affect us directly, as it makes me resort to online shopping to buy my games, something that I wish I didn't have to do.
You say that the sections are small but crammed full of different games. I find that yes, there is usually only one copy of each game and there are games behind games - but that leaves 2/3 of the games hidden away where no ne can be bothered to look for them. This means they won't get sold which means GAME sell less GC games and support the GC less and so stock less GC games and so we have less choice. For many people GAME is their only access to a gaming retailer so they'll have to resort to online shopping.
Are you seriously trying to say that less choice = good? If I could go to my local game shop and buy the same selection of games on the high street as I could online for the same price, then I would do it every time, the reason that I don't is because the choice is more limited. I haven't bought a game from a high street retailer in over a year, and I've bought A LOT of games in that time. It's not like I don't visit game shops, either, I'm often in Gamestation, GAME, CEX and all the others that you mention, and I never find a particularly varied selection of Gamecube games. They're always right at the back on a small shelf, there is a distinct lack of accessories.
All I'm saying is that diminishing support for GC in stores DOES affect us directly, as it makes me resort to online shopping to buy my games, something that I wish I didn't have to do.
You say that the sections are small but crammed full of different games. I find that yes, there is usually only one copy of each game and there are games behind games - but that leaves 2/3 of the games hidden away where no ne can be bothered to look for them. This means they won't get sold which means GAME sell less GC games and support the GC less and so stock less GC games and so we have less choice. For many people GAME is their only access to a gaming retailer so they'll have to resort to online shopping.
You are right, there was no display for Pikmin 2 (which was a disgrace on Nintendo's behalf) and there wasn't any for Paper Mario 2 either.
Oh and no, I don't live in Cambridge I go to uni there, I live in a small market town of St. Neots.
Oh and no, I don't live in Cambridge I go to uni there, I live in a small market town of St. Neots.
GAME does have a lot of choice, it is just crammed into a small sense of space. Most of them stock all the Resident Evil games, Skies of Arcadia, Viewtiful Joe, the FIFA titles, the Player choice games, Tony Hawks, Tales of symphonia, most have Harvest Moon... they even stock games other places don't like Phantasy Star Online 3!!! GAME don't have much space no, but go in and tally up all the different games there. You'd get plenty, especially tallied with the pre-owned stuff. Seriously there are games behind the games that are behind those games.
As for not being any displays for games??? Sorry you are VERY wrong. There was a big box display for Metroid Prime Echoes. In one Cambridge store they had Samus pointing the gun at the Halo 2 display box. They must have been in most GAME stores because they were in the 2 in Cambridge, the 1 in huntingdon and the 1 on Oxford street (the only 4 I went in). Donkey Konga ALSO got a large display, the boxes were lined up on and along side the new release shelf and you even had the ability to play the game. Nintendo paid GAME a lot of money for that, and Gamestation. Donkey konga was on those shelves for a good deal of time!
Before then there was Mario Golf and Pokemon colleseum (for the latter there was even a countdown in Gamestation)... MGS, Animal Crossing and Crystal Chronicles also were on the new release shelf. Also games on all formats are found on this shelf.
Yes I'm sad for knowing this but I have an hour to kill before my bus almost every day and it becomes a habit to check the Gamecube display.
My criticism??? When it comes to multi-format display SOMETIMES the Gamecube is forgotten. It will be filled with PS2 and X-box versions and not the Gamecube and the small space the Gamecube section is meant to be is left empty. Tony Hawks Underground had half the space for the PS2 and almost half for the X-box, the Gamecube got a bit in the corner.
Also Gamecube sections should be spread out, GAME shouldn't cram all the Gamecube games into one area. They do the same for the GBA.
But there are plenty of games there, and GAME advertise the games they are paid too.
As for not being any displays for games??? Sorry you are VERY wrong. There was a big box display for Metroid Prime Echoes. In one Cambridge store they had Samus pointing the gun at the Halo 2 display box. They must have been in most GAME stores because they were in the 2 in Cambridge, the 1 in huntingdon and the 1 on Oxford street (the only 4 I went in). Donkey Konga ALSO got a large display, the boxes were lined up on and along side the new release shelf and you even had the ability to play the game. Nintendo paid GAME a lot of money for that, and Gamestation. Donkey konga was on those shelves for a good deal of time!
Before then there was Mario Golf and Pokemon colleseum (for the latter there was even a countdown in Gamestation)... MGS, Animal Crossing and Crystal Chronicles also were on the new release shelf. Also games on all formats are found on this shelf.
Yes I'm sad for knowing this but I have an hour to kill before my bus almost every day and it becomes a habit to check the Gamecube display.
My criticism??? When it comes to multi-format display SOMETIMES the Gamecube is forgotten. It will be filled with PS2 and X-box versions and not the Gamecube and the small space the Gamecube section is meant to be is left empty. Tony Hawks Underground had half the space for the PS2 and almost half for the X-box, the Gamecube got a bit in the corner.
Also Gamecube sections should be spread out, GAME shouldn't cram all the Gamecube games into one area. They do the same for the GBA.
But there are plenty of games there, and GAME advertise the games they are paid too.
Dringo wrote:
> Well for starters GAME tends to sell a lot of choice, it is places
> like Woolworths, Argos and the such like that only sell the best
> selling.
GAME really doesn't have alot of choice. As I said, all GAME's in Norwich (my local city) have one rack for Cube games. That's it. Very little choice. And I gather it's the same most other places. Woolworths you'd be lucky to even see any in there at all.
> At the front of GAME stores there is not a PS2, X-box or Gamecube
> section. There is a section called "NEW RELEASES" here the
> companies who make the games pay GAME to put their titles here.
> Sometimes you get special box displays at the front too. GAME
> advertise the new releases and you get Gamecube games here just as
> much as PS2 or X-box. MAjor multiformat releases are always there and
> major releases for all consoles are. These are what gets advertised.
I can't remember the last time I saw a display for a Cube game in GAME or any other store. Echoes? No. Pikmin 2? No. Paper Mario? No. To be honest I think I saw one for Wind Waker, which is now over a year and a half ago. You're right, the companies who make the games pay for the space. You have to agree, Nintendo just don't take advantage of this enough.
> GAME have the individual console sections at the sides and I doubt
> this has any effect on anything.
It does when the PS2/Xbox/PC sections have four floor-to-wall units of shelves, and the Cube has one small half-sized rack.
> A: Internet shopping, it is massive, most people do it, Gamecube
> stock aplenty.
People shouldn't have to go online to find a good selection of Cube games. Because that's the only place I can find a good selection.
> B: GAME do sell a nice selection of old and new Gamecube stuff. Sure
> it is crammed into a small section but there is a lot there.
>
> C: Gamestation ALWAYS has s*** loads of Gamecube stuff, EVERYWHERE,
> loads of it. True Woolworths, Virgin, HMV, Choices etc... only stock
> the recent released or best selling games. But that applies to all
> consoles.
My Woolworths has about five times as much PS2 space as Cube space.
> There is nothing to cry over.
There is alot there could be improved.
Oh, and you mention your "local back water-town" .. don't you live in Cambridge?
> Well for starters GAME tends to sell a lot of choice, it is places
> like Woolworths, Argos and the such like that only sell the best
> selling.
GAME really doesn't have alot of choice. As I said, all GAME's in Norwich (my local city) have one rack for Cube games. That's it. Very little choice. And I gather it's the same most other places. Woolworths you'd be lucky to even see any in there at all.
> At the front of GAME stores there is not a PS2, X-box or Gamecube
> section. There is a section called "NEW RELEASES" here the
> companies who make the games pay GAME to put their titles here.
> Sometimes you get special box displays at the front too. GAME
> advertise the new releases and you get Gamecube games here just as
> much as PS2 or X-box. MAjor multiformat releases are always there and
> major releases for all consoles are. These are what gets advertised.
I can't remember the last time I saw a display for a Cube game in GAME or any other store. Echoes? No. Pikmin 2? No. Paper Mario? No. To be honest I think I saw one for Wind Waker, which is now over a year and a half ago. You're right, the companies who make the games pay for the space. You have to agree, Nintendo just don't take advantage of this enough.
> GAME have the individual console sections at the sides and I doubt
> this has any effect on anything.
It does when the PS2/Xbox/PC sections have four floor-to-wall units of shelves, and the Cube has one small half-sized rack.
> A: Internet shopping, it is massive, most people do it, Gamecube
> stock aplenty.
People shouldn't have to go online to find a good selection of Cube games. Because that's the only place I can find a good selection.
> B: GAME do sell a nice selection of old and new Gamecube stuff. Sure
> it is crammed into a small section but there is a lot there.
>
> C: Gamestation ALWAYS has s*** loads of Gamecube stuff, EVERYWHERE,
> loads of it. True Woolworths, Virgin, HMV, Choices etc... only stock
> the recent released or best selling games. But that applies to all
> consoles.
My Woolworths has about five times as much PS2 space as Cube space.
> There is nothing to cry over.
There is alot there could be improved.
Oh, and you mention your "local back water-town" .. don't you live in Cambridge?
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