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This is an issue close to my heart and I know its said many times but i'm saying it again.
I went into my local GAME yesterday and to my amazement the Gamecube shelf space has shrunk even smaller. It really was a pitiful sight and quite embarrassing for a die hard Nintendo fan.
The shelf space is now just one block. There were the usual top five slots which were virtually empty and then the 'selection' of naff games underneath. Now yes I suppose you could look at it 2 ways, either they've all sold out (which is laughably unlikely) or that GAME just can't be ars*d with the Gamecube anymore (which I KNOW is whats happening).
Woollies now have hardly any Gamecube stuff. Dixons, Currys, Comet and all those electrical retailers stopped selling it months ago and it looks like even GAME are now on the 'dump Cube' runaway train.
3 years into the life of the N64 was better than this and that was considered a commercial flop.
I went into my local GAME yesterday and to my amazement the Gamecube shelf space has shrunk even smaller. It really was a pitiful sight and quite embarrassing for a die hard Nintendo fan.
The shelf space is now just one block. There were the usual top five slots which were virtually empty and then the 'selection' of naff games underneath. Now yes I suppose you could look at it 2 ways, either they've all sold out (which is laughably unlikely) or that GAME just can't be ars*d with the Gamecube anymore (which I KNOW is whats happening).
Woollies now have hardly any Gamecube stuff. Dixons, Currys, Comet and all those electrical retailers stopped selling it months ago and it looks like even GAME are now on the 'dump Cube' runaway train.
3 years into the life of the N64 was better than this and that was considered a commercial flop.
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The PSP has done reasonably well.
Selling out a 200,000 Shipment within a week I think...
But then again, the Dreamcast did that.
So not a bad hting, but not necessarily good either.
The DS is still topping it though.
2 million units sorted before Christmas?
I don't think that even the PS2 managed to sell 2 million THAT easily.
Selling out a 200,000 Shipment within a week I think...
But then again, the Dreamcast did that.
So not a bad hting, but not necessarily good either.
The DS is still topping it though.
2 million units sorted before Christmas?
I don't think that even the PS2 managed to sell 2 million THAT easily.
I do agree that is appears to be a trend with Sony both PS2 and PSP in short demand, whether you agree with it or not seems to do the trick in hyping up the hardware. There is no such think as bad publicity, and talking of publicity that is one area Nintendo really need to address.
Top score wrote:
> Of course the shortage of PSP's has nothing to do with the DS selling
> more
Being Sony, and the masters of advertising they are, i expect they produced less consoles to start with than Nintendo just to be able to say this. "We didnt expect such a rush for the console" when infact behind closed doors "well that went as planned" is being discussed.
This is just judging by the run up to christmas events where the old "shortage of PS2 in stores" was used so everyone would go out in blind panic and buy them.
> Of course the shortage of PSP's has nothing to do with the DS selling
> more
Being Sony, and the masters of advertising they are, i expect they produced less consoles to start with than Nintendo just to be able to say this. "We didnt expect such a rush for the console" when infact behind closed doors "well that went as planned" is being discussed.
This is just judging by the run up to christmas events where the old "shortage of PS2 in stores" was used so everyone would go out in blind panic and buy them.
Top score wrote:
> Of course the shortage of PSP's has nothing to do with the DS selling
> more
The fact is the PSP still hasn't sold out what numbers are on sale. But let's wait a few months to confirm the DS is still selling more.
And you gotta laugh at Sony for their cack supply shortages. Some see it as an ploy to build up demand but when Sony have to apologise about it I don't see that as very good publicity. Heh heh heh.
> Of course the shortage of PSP's has nothing to do with the DS selling
> more
The fact is the PSP still hasn't sold out what numbers are on sale. But let's wait a few months to confirm the DS is still selling more.
And you gotta laugh at Sony for their cack supply shortages. Some see it as an ploy to build up demand but when Sony have to apologise about it I don't see that as very good publicity. Heh heh heh.
Top score wrote:
> Nintendo will go the way of sega and become a software only supplier,
> maybe not in the handheld market but definetly in the console
> market.
Maybe not in the handheld market?
Maybe? Why would the industry's handheld leader go into Software only? You spasmodic moron. That's like saying "Oooh Sony and their precious PS2 *may* do a Sega and become software only for the home console market".
> Nintendo will go the way of sega and become a software only supplier,
> maybe not in the handheld market but definetly in the console
> market.
Maybe not in the handheld market?
Maybe? Why would the industry's handheld leader go into Software only? You spasmodic moron. That's like saying "Oooh Sony and their precious PS2 *may* do a Sega and become software only for the home console market".
Of course the shortage of PSP's has nothing to do with the DS selling more
Nintendo will go the way of sega and become a software only supplier, maybe not in the handheld market but definetly in the console market.
It makes sense hardly any company Sony or Microsoft make any money on the hardware it is all about the software.
I would like to see Nintendo use the resources and money they would save on producing a descent handheld that is a worthy competitor to the PSP.
It makes sense hardly any company Sony or Microsoft make any money on the hardware it is all about the software.
I would like to see Nintendo use the resources and money they would save on producing a descent handheld that is a worthy competitor to the PSP.
Yeah the gamecube isnt doing as well as it could be, but oh well.
Its not like it means games are going to stop for the Gamecube or anything like that. Tbh most people i know who KNOW about games (know the releases/the good games even if they arnt hypered up and advertised) buy the games from the internet anyway, or even ask for them.
Offtopic i think if Game/HMV etc all had "pods" where people can search for games and then it says how many is in stock in the shop they are in/other shops/warehouse or what not it could solve these problems.
Nintendo must make profit, looking at all the other things they do, and their big game releases. I dont see the revolution being the last one, infact do we know ALL the details about next gen consoles? do we know for certian someone else wont join in etc?. Nintendo could pull one out of the bag/others make a major mess up, i dont think they will thou :P but they wont drop out. Nintendo have many areas they could get better at, advertising wise etc. Who knows maybe they will, will cost money but who knows? Gaming wise maybe the games they lack are the "adult" style looks, i dont want debates on if these games are any good or not, but a business side they sell! If Nintendo would for god sake invent their own "adult" game it will start to wipe that away a bit and then third partys will start helping etc.
I'd love to see GTA/Halo on the Gamecube, and im sure no matter how "childish" mario/zelda is viewed PS2/Xbox owners would also buy them if they could. Nintendos gonna be about for much longer, for me all i care about is the games, but yeah, i wouldnt mind more advertisment/more adult games and what not.
From what people say making your own console doesnt sound so good, loss on each console, then the crazy amounts for designing/prototypes and what not. Maybe Nintendo doing just games for Xbox and PS2 would be good :P But im guessing the profit they are making now is better than if they did that. so once again more reason why they are more then likely going to create more consoles in the future.
Its not like it means games are going to stop for the Gamecube or anything like that. Tbh most people i know who KNOW about games (know the releases/the good games even if they arnt hypered up and advertised) buy the games from the internet anyway, or even ask for them.
Offtopic i think if Game/HMV etc all had "pods" where people can search for games and then it says how many is in stock in the shop they are in/other shops/warehouse or what not it could solve these problems.
Nintendo must make profit, looking at all the other things they do, and their big game releases. I dont see the revolution being the last one, infact do we know ALL the details about next gen consoles? do we know for certian someone else wont join in etc?. Nintendo could pull one out of the bag/others make a major mess up, i dont think they will thou :P but they wont drop out. Nintendo have many areas they could get better at, advertising wise etc. Who knows maybe they will, will cost money but who knows? Gaming wise maybe the games they lack are the "adult" style looks, i dont want debates on if these games are any good or not, but a business side they sell! If Nintendo would for god sake invent their own "adult" game it will start to wipe that away a bit and then third partys will start helping etc.
I'd love to see GTA/Halo on the Gamecube, and im sure no matter how "childish" mario/zelda is viewed PS2/Xbox owners would also buy them if they could. Nintendos gonna be about for much longer, for me all i care about is the games, but yeah, i wouldnt mind more advertisment/more adult games and what not.
From what people say making your own console doesnt sound so good, loss on each console, then the crazy amounts for designing/prototypes and what not. Maybe Nintendo doing just games for Xbox and PS2 would be good :P But im guessing the profit they are making now is better than if they did that. so once again more reason why they are more then likely going to create more consoles in the future.
In that case I hold my hands up and admit that I was wrong about Japan. Worldwide however Nintendo are still behind.
As their are no official European figures and I can't find the American ones here are the Japanese figures.
20-26th December week | 2004 year total
1.) Nintendo DS - 396,674 | 1,286,074
2.) Game Boy Advance SP - 190,268 | 2,530,961
3.) PlayStation 2 - 188,134 | 2,691,666
4.) GameCube - 108,311 | 696,839
5.) PSP - 107,217 | 352,295
6.) GBA - 3,877 | 198,025
7.) XBOX - 704 | 37,083
8.) PSone - 90 | 14,029
A company that shifts millions of hardware and software is not a doomed company. No matter how you look at it.
And yes the PSP has been outsold by the Gamecube in the Christmas week.
The Gamecube sales are appaling (PS2 has sold roughly 2 million more consoles last year) and yet they are still triple that of the X-box.
Add the figures for the SP and GBA together though and the Gameboy beats the PS2.
20-26th December week | 2004 year total
1.) Nintendo DS - 396,674 | 1,286,074
2.) Game Boy Advance SP - 190,268 | 2,530,961
3.) PlayStation 2 - 188,134 | 2,691,666
4.) GameCube - 108,311 | 696,839
5.) PSP - 107,217 | 352,295
6.) GBA - 3,877 | 198,025
7.) XBOX - 704 | 37,083
8.) PSone - 90 | 14,029
A company that shifts millions of hardware and software is not a doomed company. No matter how you look at it.
And yes the PSP has been outsold by the Gamecube in the Christmas week.
The Gamecube sales are appaling (PS2 has sold roughly 2 million more consoles last year) and yet they are still triple that of the X-box.
Add the figures for the SP and GBA together though and the Gameboy beats the PS2.
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