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Can FAD be setup to use a proxy? And if not, is there any way to manually download the WUs?
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No wonder theres a bigger gap between the team above now, the leading guy just finished a 6 day job with 185,000Gf
Nimco wrote:
> FLCL wrote:
> Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've
> both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have
> got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense
> unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
>
> He may have a very high spec machine...
No that can't be it otherwise he would have done far more jobs than me, having all these hits slowed me down. Ah well.
> FLCL wrote:
> Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've
> both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have
> got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense
> unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
>
> He may have a very high spec machine...
No that can't be it otherwise he would have done far more jobs than me, having all these hits slowed me down. Ah well.
I haven't changed anything so it should be default and no, all programs including fadsetup.exe are running in the background. It's like it's running normally and even doing the jobs, it's just for some reason there's no icon in the system tray. Usually I would think it is the fault of my computer but I guess that's not the case this time, as I'm not the only one.
Nimco: so when you reboot Windows/turn on the PC etc, THINK.exe loads but server.exe doesn't?
FLCL: when you reboot Windows/turn on the PC etc, THINK.exe and server.exe are running but fadsetup.exe (which puts the icon in the sys tray) isn't?
If that is the case with you both then it sounds like the loader is to blame. I take it both of you have FAD start via the THINK.lgo in the startup folder (it would be unless you changed it)?
FLCL: when you reboot Windows/turn on the PC etc, THINK.exe and server.exe are running but fadsetup.exe (which puts the icon in the sys tray) isn't?
If that is the case with you both then it sounds like the loader is to blame. I take it both of you have FAD start via the THINK.lgo in the startup folder (it would be unless you changed it)?
FLCL wrote:
> Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've
> both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have
> got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense
> unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
He may have a very high spec machine...
> Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've
> both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have
> got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense
> unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
He may have a very high spec machine...
Managed to get the systems tray back, I had to ctrl/alt/del and end task all the FAD programs running and then do the save in control panel.
Is there any way I can stop this, I don't fancy doing it every time I have to restart my computer. :(
Is there any way I can stop this, I don't fancy doing it every time I have to restart my computer. :(
I finally got that job done, 50,000Gflops I think I got, problem is I just installed a windows security thingy, again the icon system tray didnt come up and this time, going to the control panel and clicking save doesnt work. It still wont come up. I change something in the control panel and save but still no icon in system tray. ctrl/alt/del says it's running as usual.
Any other ideas? :S
So close as well we only needed 68,241
Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
Any other ideas? :S
So close as well we only needed 68,241
Also how come UrkiE has just under 300,000 more Gflops when we've both done the same number of jobs, but I've done more days and have got more than 2,600 hits compared to his 217. It doesn't make sense unless it's a bad thing to get lots of hits.
I'm all for the loyalty and sticking with FAD and all, but at the moment there's not much point cos my PC has no jobs and can't connect to get more...
EDIT: I just read your bit about server.exe running. It hasn't been loading after a restart apparently, cos I went to the FAD folder and ran server.exe and the queue option appeared. It's downloaded some new WUs and is currently processing again. Cheers anyway though.
EDIT: I just read your bit about server.exe running. It hasn't been loading after a restart apparently, cos I went to the FAD folder and ran server.exe and the queue option appeared. It's downloaded some new WUs and is currently processing again. Cheers anyway though.
All in FAD has totalled around 3,500 years of computer time. Not nearly as much as SETI admittedly, but not too bad considering the number of users and the fact that FAD has only been around for approx 2 and a half years.
The difference is SETI has been around twice as long and as it was one of the first DC projects it got a lot of press coverage. The more people used it then the more users it gained. The other reason is it is available for a whole lot of platforms; X86, PowerPC, SPARC etc. This means it is open to a lot more people as well.
The question would things change if FAD gained another 100,000 years is a difficult one. In some ways yes, because it is far easier to identify a trend amongst 100,000 people than 100. So actual issues with FAD itself could be easier identified, as opposed to isolated incidents. Just like Microsoft substantially beta tested SP2 for XP, but because they couldn't test every combination out there they couldn't fix everything. But if they had only tested on half a dozen computers far far more things wouldn't work.
Also, if there were that many more users then calls to port FAD to other architectures would be taken more seriously. It isn't that they aren't taken seriously just now, but 2% of less than 10,000 is only 200. An additional 200 users isn't enough to make a Mac port worthwhile. 2% of 100,000 is more worthwhile though, and 2% of a million even more so.
Also the more users there are then the more interest FAD would have from both academics and commercial companies. Just now there is plenty of work to do, but there would be even more if it was lot more popular.
But some things would not change. Keith, the head of the project (THINK on the forums) would not suddenly lock himself in an office and stop communicating with the community, and yes, that is a dig at the United Devices staff. Also, I think we'd probably still have the rather naff website. I'm tempted to try and knock one up myself and email him the design.
Other things that wouldn't change tomorrow would include the program itself being written in FORTRAN. It's a scientific programming language, but also not exactly the most popular for coding in. Ideally THINK would be written in Java, and would be universally portable. It might be possible, but it isn't happening anyway.
As for getting and keeping users, it is difficult to persuade people to change projects. People might think FAD better than SETI, but if they have 10 years worth of stats for SETI, they are likely to keep running it. The other problem is that even when you get hardcore DCers, sometimes they are very dedicated to a team. For instance, Overclockers UK are the second biggest producing SETI team, even with a rather small amount of members in comparison to other teams, but they have some major members, like Shady (around 50 PCs in his home) and Ministry Of Serendipity who has clocked up thousands of computer years. That means that lots of other people on their forums are more likely to want to keep the team flying high, even if they would rather run something else. It's loyalty in other words.
The difference is SETI has been around twice as long and as it was one of the first DC projects it got a lot of press coverage. The more people used it then the more users it gained. The other reason is it is available for a whole lot of platforms; X86, PowerPC, SPARC etc. This means it is open to a lot more people as well.
The question would things change if FAD gained another 100,000 years is a difficult one. In some ways yes, because it is far easier to identify a trend amongst 100,000 people than 100. So actual issues with FAD itself could be easier identified, as opposed to isolated incidents. Just like Microsoft substantially beta tested SP2 for XP, but because they couldn't test every combination out there they couldn't fix everything. But if they had only tested on half a dozen computers far far more things wouldn't work.
Also, if there were that many more users then calls to port FAD to other architectures would be taken more seriously. It isn't that they aren't taken seriously just now, but 2% of less than 10,000 is only 200. An additional 200 users isn't enough to make a Mac port worthwhile. 2% of 100,000 is more worthwhile though, and 2% of a million even more so.
Also the more users there are then the more interest FAD would have from both academics and commercial companies. Just now there is plenty of work to do, but there would be even more if it was lot more popular.
But some things would not change. Keith, the head of the project (THINK on the forums) would not suddenly lock himself in an office and stop communicating with the community, and yes, that is a dig at the United Devices staff. Also, I think we'd probably still have the rather naff website. I'm tempted to try and knock one up myself and email him the design.
Other things that wouldn't change tomorrow would include the program itself being written in FORTRAN. It's a scientific programming language, but also not exactly the most popular for coding in. Ideally THINK would be written in Java, and would be universally portable. It might be possible, but it isn't happening anyway.
As for getting and keeping users, it is difficult to persuade people to change projects. People might think FAD better than SETI, but if they have 10 years worth of stats for SETI, they are likely to keep running it. The other problem is that even when you get hardcore DCers, sometimes they are very dedicated to a team. For instance, Overclockers UK are the second biggest producing SETI team, even with a rather small amount of members in comparison to other teams, but they have some major members, like Shady (around 50 PCs in his home) and Ministry Of Serendipity who has clocked up thousands of computer years. That means that lots of other people on their forums are more likely to want to keep the team flying high, even if they would rather run something else. It's loyalty in other words.
Ah cheers biggles it's back, damn the queue is all messed up hopefully nothing is lost.
Now lets make up for lost time and get these jobs sorted and get Special Reserve up another spot.
Now lets make up for lost time and get these jobs sorted and get Special Reserve up another spot.
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