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Mon 11/10/04 at 19:08
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Can FAD be setup to use a proxy? And if not, is there any way to manually download the WUs?
Fri 15/10/04 at 15:47
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> P4 3.8 GHz is on pre-order at the moment with some of the well known
> sites, but they do have the 3.6 GHz in stock now. Bear in mind that
> Intel are not releasing any more P4s for socket 478 now, it is all
> LGA 775 now. That's what has the 3.6 GHz. You can now also get a 64
> bit, 3.4 GHz Pentium 4. That'd be the F revision.

LGA 775? There are motherboards with this socket right? Do you think this new 3.8 flagship of theirs will do better than the A64 then? I don't mind paying more money for something that's currently the leader. What that guy said in the other thread, if there is no need for super fast processors such as 10GHz then why are they still making them faster if the need isnt there with the exception of these kind of projects?

> Reason you produce more than most of the team is because you have
> more computers than most of them. You just didn't really run FAD for
> very long before, meaning that whilst you had a lot of power, you
> didn't rack up much in the way of time. You would have been well in
> the top 1000 if you had kept running FAD.
>
> In fact, you are currently out-producing the person ranked 500th.

Yeah I could have been very high had I ran it for the last 4/5 months :) an extra 900 jobs/1.3 years CPU with a little help from the other new computer. Still when I first installed it and had it on auto it only did 1 job instead of 2 so I missed out doing more for the first few weeks. Still I'll make up for lost time. Actually this computer alone has done almost all work out of the 9 days 14 hours done in the last week the other PC did only 12 of them (thought it was off for many days so hopefully will do alot more next week). This is only a P2.4 so I'm not sure what the other guys are using, maybe they're turning off their computer, some of the others like Ortega have more than one computers. I'll be more happy when I get these computers, I got such a thrill building this computer. So I'll be extremely happy to see how they perform on FAD.

The best I could get on a single job was 140 on two my top speed is 90 each, that's an additional 40 not bad considering all the other things I'm doing even playing new PC games. Apart from limiting the things I'm using is there any other way to speed up the processing?
Fri 15/10/04 at 15:04
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P4 3.8 GHz is on pre-order at the moment with some of the well known sites, but they do have the 3.6 GHz in stock now. Bear in mind that Intel are not releasing any more P4s for socket 478 now, it is all LGA 775 now. That's what has the 3.6 GHz. You can now also get a 64 bit, 3.4 GHz Pentium 4. That'd be the F revision.

Reason you produce more than most of the team is because you have more computers than most of them. You just didn't really run FAD for very long before, meaning that whilst you had a lot of power, you didn't rack up much in the way of time. You would have been well in the top 1000 if you had kept running FAD.

In fact, you are currently out-producing the person ranked 500th.
Fri 15/10/04 at 14:14
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There are P3.8Ghz? You sure, the highest I could find on mailorder sites and on the intel site itself was 3.4Ghz. hmm more research is needed it seems, I'll go check.
Fri 15/10/04 at 14:12
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> SETI underfunded? Have you seen their huge list of corporate sponsors?

Yeah I noticed :) from what the guy said it felt better suited for FAD rather than the more commercial overly supported SETI. I think there's room for SETI and it's work but I dont like that it has so much support from companies and users for a project though worthwhile doesnt even compare to FAD, I guess the very vast majority of it's users arent even aware of projects like FAD, as I said before I wouldnt like to think people would rather try and find aliens than help fight diseases that kill millions.

> More computers?! Go for Athlon 64. They outperform equivalent P4s in
> most things, cost less and of course are 64 bit, which whilst not
> relevant yet, will be one day.

You can never have too many computers, these need to be top of the line to deal with some very hard work. I'll look into the A64 thanks :)

It's nice to see (and a shame really) that I'm contributing the 2nd most for the team, though I did miss a few days this week because of the system tray problem I think each week I can do about 20 days CPU. Hopefully with the two machines I've already started buying parts for I can push that up to 48. My brothers been wanting a PC aswell, I guess from talking to all his friends on xlive and wanting to play PC games like the Sims 2 so I might sort that out for him and put FAD on his aswell. That'll give me 5 machines :) still nothing compared to users like Joker! on 55 machines is it? The only way I could top that would be for my animation studio which has several hundred PCs with top end processors that could easily do over 1000 jobs a day :)
Fri 15/10/04 at 13:47
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SETI underfunded? Have you seen their huge list of corporate sponsors? Not only that, but the VLA Sattelites in New Mexico were orginially run by NASA until they had the funding for their SETI type search cut off. Hence SETI was founded to take on the hardware and keep up the challenge.

I recently read an article about how if there are aliens out there, advancing the same way we are, then it is likely it would get more difficult to contact us, or see us, because we have much less electro-magnetic pollution now than we did 40 years ago, simply due to more efficient and accurate radios etc.

More computers?! Go for Athlon 64. They outperform equivalent P4s in most things, cost less and of course are 64 bit, which whilst not relevant yet, will be one day.

EDIT - The google toolbar has some Folding@Home stuff built into it.
Fri 15/10/04 at 13:38
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Well advertising costs a lot of money, nor does it do as much good as
> word of mouth advertising. If you were to see something inviting you
> to download something and not directly get anything in return, you
> wouldn't be exactly enamoured with it would you?

Looks like word of mouth is the best thing we've got going for us. I suppose that's what made SETI so big. I mentioned before about a webcomic artist greating his own team on SETI, he amanged quite a few hundred. I'm almost complete with my webcomic perhaps I'll do the same for FAD. Just looked on the guys profile on SETI, "3. I run SETI because I think there are a lot of underfunded and undersupported groups, and SETI is one of them. SETI needs a lot more support, because it's an extremely important endeavor, in my opinion. Thanks to distributed computing, SETI has access to one of the most powerful computer networks in the world, and the more data we can crunch for them, the better." heh

I find that people just arent interested, shame it couldnt be built into programs like Kazaa, let the millions of fools use their P2P software and crunch numbers at the same time :)

Not bad with the number of jobs, still have another 165,000 to go. This computer does already the other computer though it is turned off for many hours is not doing so well. I guess it's getting some of the bigger jobs and I think for some reason it did 1 job twice, I have day jobs at the moment so I wont be uploading much. On the brightside I'm still saving up for those 2 'super' computers though I dont know whether to have the latest Pentium or Athlon, eitherway I can't wait for the next generation as I need these machines around christmas onwards. So either 2x3.4ghz or the athlon equivilant.
Fri 15/10/04 at 00:50
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That should be at least 260,000 GFLOPS uploaded there by my reckoning.
Fri 15/10/04 at 00:41
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Well advertising costs a lot of money, nor does it do as much good as word of mouth advertising. If you were to see something inviting you to download something and not directly get anything in return, you wouldn't be exactly enamoured with it would you?

It just doesn't appeal to some people. It doesn't matter what the science behind it is like, Algy refuses to run it. His grandfather died from cancer only last year as well. But that's people for you.

Faster processors of course will mean that more work does get done.

As for the various other projects, some do particle collision, some look for the highest prime number, some do weather prediction. There is quite a variety of projects out there. But whilst all worth causes, I can't think of any worthier than curing fatal diseases.
Fri 15/10/04 at 00:34
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25,077,302,989 - all
00,019,566,959 - ours
00,000,364,786 - mine

I contributed a fair bit, course you gave them 10 out of the 25,077 so very good.
Fri 15/10/04 at 00:30
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That's a shame, well hopefully these faster processors over the next few years will help, that and hopefully some more members, can't they just run an advert in a computer magazine or something? Do they do any advertising at all or is it just the website? Maybe they can do a donation thing, members pay some money to make a better website, a better program and plug the whole project, I wouldnt mind giving some money if it helps the project. It's just at the moment, it's really not doing as well as it should, and I aint having any luck convincing anyone, even those who have been affected by such diseases.

Do you think people mention their involvement in the project on their CV? Hmm maybe not. You know about all the other projects, SETI is aliens, what are the others ones doing if not finding cures or aliens?

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