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"Could Hitler and the Wehrmacht won World War 2??"

I have read millions and millions of World War 2 books, and wanted to address the Topic could Germany have beaten us. After careful reading and consideration, it would have been possible for Germany to defeat Europe, more so in the early stages of WW2. Britian was able to be attacked from several angles... From Norway, France, Belgium & Holland, which would place Wehrmacht troops in numerous possible places across the North-East, East, South-East and South Coast. I believe that if the Germans launched a simutantious attack from opposite ends of the UK (one from Norway, & One from France) there would be not enough of the RAF to fend off an attack, and therefore Germany could have secured a beachead on British soil... and seeing that it was at an early stage of the War, Britain would not have had sufficient troops, and weaponary to repel it, seeing after a hulimating defeat for us at Dunkirk.

Even towards the end of World War 2, it came very very close for Germany winning the war. The Germans were developing a new edition to the V2 rocket, enivatibly the Atomic Bomb. But was destroyed by the RAF, but was not known that until the end of the War that Hitler was developing an atomic weapon and a hell of alot closer of launching the Atomic Bomb, than we were. If he was successful, the first target would have either been New York or a Soviet City which would have sent the Americans and Soviets to withdraw, and Hitler to take over Britain.

Any comments on this thoughts. Hitler really wanted to make peace with Britain, and us to Join the NAZI's due to the fact that Britain being an Island, Hitler admired Britian as we were the clostest thing to a European white aryan race, because not to many people immigrated to Britain?

Reading this topic makes me respect just what happened back then. Cant believe it wasnt even that long ago when WW2 happened, there are so many ignorant and idiotic people today that take life for granted, I find it shameful.

cipro wrote:

> England may have fallen if Hitler destroyed the RAF and didn’t
> concern himself with Russia, but it wouldn’t have been an easy
> victory, and it certainly wouldn’t have been a push over.

It's Great Britain you oaf.

What was most ironic was that the many who served Germany in WW1 were Jewish war heroes, yet still ended up shot/in camps.

Personally I couldn't see how an invasion of England would have worked, not least with heavy casualties on both sides.

Some people mention how easy it was for the Germans to push through Russia in the opening stages of the Eastern Front, despite the Reds having a far larger army than us. True, but then Russia was far easier to invade as Germany didn't have to cross the sea to get to it. Russia also had a leader who was allied to Hitler and refused to listen to early reports that an attack by Hitler was imminent, meaning they had no proper defence against the initial pre-emptive strike from Germany. They where poorly armed and poorly led.

Britain however was ready. We had a well armed, well trained army, we had defences set up on beaches (you can still see the massive tank traps on some beaches in the country) and there was plentiful amount of defensive positions set up in areas most likely to be attacked by paratroopers. This would have slowed down an invasion from Germany to no end, and would have cost them dearly. Then there’s the fact that Hitler didn’t have any landing craft, and that we still had a more than serviceable navy at our disposal.

England may have fallen if Hitler destroyed the RAF and didn’t concern himself with Russia, but it wouldn’t have been an easy victory, and it certainly wouldn’t have been a push over.

He said last to fall.

Britain would have pulled troops back from the colonies if Britain itself was faced with invasion. The homeland takes precedence and all. I've never heard of the German Army being multicultural before. Where did all these people who generally were killed in concentration camps come from?

Munn I don't think he would have invaded Ireland first. Means that there would have been more mines to clear, plus there was alot of Navy activity in that area protecting merchant ships carrying the needed supplies from Canada to England. From Nazi occupied terrorties the best places to invade would be from the north (From Norway) into Scotland...... there are places there which are sparsly populated so it would have been easy for them to gain a beachead, and from the French Coast to places like Hive.

SHEEPY wrote:
> Even landing on Britian would have caused a massive mental blow.
>
> And London was pretty near. Scotland would have been the last to
> fall.
>
> WOOHOO

I figured it would have been Ireland.

But I'm sure the 5 million odd Scots that were alive could have taken him on (even the children).

FREEDOM!! and stuff.

Hitler made a few mistakes when fighting Britain that cost him the war.

WHen originally they Blitzed vital RAF places, just as they were on the verge of stopping us to be able to counterattack, he decided to attack cities, so we were able to fight back against the blitzes.

Also, he put too much effort into fighting Russia, where millions of Nazis were killed because of the harsh weather conditions and the advantage it gave the Russians.

Note for you: Hitler originally wanted to be allies with the British (for he knew they were a powerful nation), when we declared war on him, it deeply upset him.

Not Multi-Cultural from their political ideals, just the fact is that they were all from different countries and did not understand eachother.... many just wanted to surrender and get treated better than they were in the German Army

Hitler took direct command of the Army in the retreat from the USSR. His genius plan was to make 'Fortress Cities', to hold cities from the dirty Soviets for ever. Trouble was, the Ruskies just went straight past them, and left them beind, to be surrounded and ground to pieces.

And calling the German army 'multi cultural' made me laugh. Simply because it's such a contrast from Nazi ideals!

Before the Japanese entered the war against the US, the Admiral of the Japanese Navy said that he would reak havock in the pacific for 6 months, after that the US would beat us.... and well he was right! it is debated that the actual start date for World War 2 was infact 1937 when Japan invaded China. I dont think that Britain would have risked taking troops from the Colonies, as it would have given Japan a too much big of a stronghold in the Pacific, and plus the Australians would eventually find themselves fighting the enemy on their homeland soil.

One thing that i found that showed the Demise of the German army was they was not good as organised as the AEF. The German army was so multicultural that many of the people were either Polish, Ukranian, Russian, Greek, Korean, Chinese ("Commented Upon in Citizen Soldiers") that many of them did not understand German commands and surrendered at the first possible opportunity to Americans and British due to the fact that POW's were transported to Canada or States and treated well, which was the case in the Pacific that Japanese POW's were sent to Australia.

After D-Day, Axis troops were surrending in the thousands which of course annoyed Hitler. Rommel commented to Von Luck that "If the allies gain a position on the beaches in France, the war is lost for us."

Furthermore, Hitler wanted to keep in-command of the noturious Panzer divisions, which Hitler being about as big as a mug as stalin was, they were both crap generals, and so enivitable there was insufficient ground support for the Jerries to conduct successful counter attacks, like at Dunkirk to force the Armies to retreat back to England