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"Could Hitler and the Wehrmacht won World War 2??"

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Thu 30/09/04 at 21:29
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I have read millions and millions of World War 2 books, and wanted to address the Topic could Germany have beaten us. After careful reading and consideration, it would have been possible for Germany to defeat Europe, more so in the early stages of WW2. Britian was able to be attacked from several angles... From Norway, France, Belgium & Holland, which would place Wehrmacht troops in numerous possible places across the North-East, East, South-East and South Coast. I believe that if the Germans launched a simutantious attack from opposite ends of the UK (one from Norway, & One from France) there would be not enough of the RAF to fend off an attack, and therefore Germany could have secured a beachead on British soil... and seeing that it was at an early stage of the War, Britain would not have had sufficient troops, and weaponary to repel it, seeing after a hulimating defeat for us at Dunkirk.

Even towards the end of World War 2, it came very very close for Germany winning the war. The Germans were developing a new edition to the V2 rocket, enivatibly the Atomic Bomb. But was destroyed by the RAF, but was not known that until the end of the War that Hitler was developing an atomic weapon and a hell of alot closer of launching the Atomic Bomb, than we were. If he was successful, the first target would have either been New York or a Soviet City which would have sent the Americans and Soviets to withdraw, and Hitler to take over Britain.

Any comments on this thoughts. Hitler really wanted to make peace with Britain, and us to Join the NAZI's due to the fact that Britain being an Island, Hitler admired Britian as we were the clostest thing to a European white aryan race, because not to many people immigrated to Britain?
Tue 05/10/04 at 17:30
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Kudos for trying to think outside the box...


but you're still a numpty! :-P
Tue 05/10/04 at 13:08
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No...it that cant have been it...it MUST have been those dummies that were dropped on D-Day (cough).

ALthough its prety scary to think what the world would be lik if hitler won....would it have been a better place? I dont think he realy hated the jews..I think he was just using them as a excuse, and perhaps when he won he might have laye off them. Oh well..I dont know.
Tue 05/10/04 at 09:50
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Alot of thing helped us win the war, the sinking of the buesmark, the most feared ship at the time. The cracking of the code, the mistake of Germany invading Russia during the winter. Even tricking them into thinking we were going to invade another part of France, it all contributed to us winning the war.
Mon 04/10/04 at 23:13
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cor i cant believe how many posts that i got for this topic, must be talking it to people who have a keen intrest in history?
Mon 04/10/04 at 01:35
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Hurrah for Turing, Kilburn et co.!!!
Mon 04/10/04 at 01:25
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Yeah, but they might not have been the Best of Friends due to the fact that they were not Aryan race, but none the Less, Japan were still a member of the Axis. In order for Germany to have won the war, it would have had to use them.

Not to mention, I recon that if Britain fell, the United States could have formed Alliances with Germany, seeing that they could have therefore gone the same way as Britain, therefore meaning that there would have been fierce fighting along the Canadian border, and followed by Japanese attack, and left over Polish, Russian, French & other occupied nations on an attack of Australia, thus wiping out the Free world.

But there could have been about 1,000,000 million ways how the war could have turned out. During the battle of britain, what made it successful in our favour was the invention of Radar, and the code breakers, decoding messages and relaying them to the RAF to encounter large squadrons of Bombers.
Sun 03/10/04 at 21:11
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Japan and Germany didn't have a Joint-Kill-All-Enemy plan. As Biggles said, twas convenient that they both fought the same nations.
Sun 03/10/04 at 18:20
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Britain wasn't ready. It had a well trained army, except that was the BEF which got massacared as it left Dunkirk. It wasn't well equiped, it had out dated weaponry.

The RAF had far too few Spitfires and Hurricanes, at that point pretty much every other fighter was obsolete. Thankfully we had a lot of really good pilots (including Sq 111's former commander Bobbie Kirkwood, who I knew personally) and we also weren't faced with range issues like the ME-109s were. Capable planes, but without the range to make it back home, unless fitted with the underwing tanks, except if they got hit the plane exploded. Had the Germans kept up bombing the airfields however, the RAF would have been in much worse straights. Then the cities would be defenceless.

As for an invasion, Britain has thousands of miles of coastline, and could have been attacked from France, Belgium, Norway etc. Covering all of the possible landing areas would have been rather difficult.

As for Hitler not making enough use of the Japanese, that's likely to do with the fact he didn't really like them. They weren't Aryans remember, it was an alliance of convenience.
Sat 02/10/04 at 23:12
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Also the Wehrmacht best chance of defeating Russia would have been to talk Japan into attacking the USSR from the east, which would have meant that the Japanese not to attack Pearl Harbour thus not entering the United States of America into the War. Hitler, although aggroant as he was, should have asked for more help from his Asian friends, as what I have read and been told about the Japanese from my Grandfather, they were good and feared warriors. The Imperial Japanese Navy could have been used more effictievly, to use their carriers & Planes to bomb parts of Russia that were vital, i.e Fuel lines, instead of Pearl Harbour, and Engage the Russian Navy and British Navy in the Pacific, thus meaning that Russia would have most certainly fallen. If the Japanese helped the Russian campaign the Russians would have found themselves to vunurable and seeing that they were unprepared.... lost.

Hitler wanted to keep the United States out of the war at all costs, because he knew that fighting a War with America would enivitable lead to a German loss. So the Japanese did not really aid the cause to German victory well.
Sat 02/10/04 at 23:02
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True Icarus... Imagine if those 4million people that he killed in concentration camps were put into the Wehrmacht, then he would I recon have suffecient numbers for people to be expendable in a first wave attack against Britain. (Know it sounds harsh), but thats what he probably used Jew, Homo's for, Cannon Fodder. True about there not having any LPC's for the Wehrmacht to use, but neither did Britain during the time when Hitler would have landed an amphibous assualt against us.

Yes we did have a trained army, but our numbers were so small we could not cover a decent section of the coast....

Not to mention that Hitler spent lots of money on his Atlantic wall, and it was breached within a matter of Hours, so even though those costal defenses were good, the same could have happened to us.

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