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One thing that really astonishes me is the number of people who sleep around in the world today. For those of us among us who believe in the Bibile, sex outside marriage is forbidden, yet so many people, religeous and otherwise, see it their duty to have multiple sexual partners. Its only a symbol of social standing in some places in AFRICA. How can we call ourselves the civilised world when we see fit to stick our john thomas in every place we can think of. Its level with the animals, and even some of them have the decency to confine themselves to one partner. (i.e. swans)
Im not trying to push chastity and say all sexual acticity is WRONG outside marriage, but I really think that sex and similar acts are something that you should share with only someone special. The only purpose of one night stands is to get some POONTANG with whatever skank can be found on the street. (I dont mean to degrade women, I just have to write this from the male perspective, the same applies to women)
Chastity generally means that you dont do ANYTHING sexual at all outside of marraige. Personally I dont see whats wrong with a little frolic in the garden of eden if its legal, legal by the bible, and doesnt put your future in jeprody through inadvertant pregnancy. What happens if the chick you boned on a one night stand get knocked up? Its your obligation to raise the b*****d child, and wed the whench. lol. I just enjoy using biassed language. I'll stop now.
Since (as I have been informed by a good friend of mine whos a history guru) the general practise of prolific intercourse has been going on for millenia, were not really doing anything different, however if we didnt do anything different we'd still be eating leaves, not even using tools. Evolution and invention meant progress, technological and personal. Sleeping around like this means that sex isnt sacred. It becomes meaningless when you finally meet someone you marry, and all you can do is compare them to your previous partners.
I know Im on a losing side. Most of you are probably against me, but Id just like you to consider the idea of, not chastity, but, however hard it may be, not sleeping around. If you meet someone special to you, by all means, even if its not the first. At least then its actually meaningful. But having shallow, meaningless sex is....well...m**********g. YOU'LL GO BLIND SON!!
Im not trying to push chastity and say all sexual acticity is WRONG outside marriage, but I really think that sex and similar acts are something that you should share with only someone special. The only purpose of one night stands is to get some POONTANG with whatever skank can be found on the street. (I dont mean to degrade women, I just have to write this from the male perspective, the same applies to women)
Chastity generally means that you dont do ANYTHING sexual at all outside of marraige. Personally I dont see whats wrong with a little frolic in the garden of eden if its legal, legal by the bible, and doesnt put your future in jeprody through inadvertant pregnancy. What happens if the chick you boned on a one night stand get knocked up? Its your obligation to raise the b*****d child, and wed the whench. lol. I just enjoy using biassed language. I'll stop now.
Since (as I have been informed by a good friend of mine whos a history guru) the general practise of prolific intercourse has been going on for millenia, were not really doing anything different, however if we didnt do anything different we'd still be eating leaves, not even using tools. Evolution and invention meant progress, technological and personal. Sleeping around like this means that sex isnt sacred. It becomes meaningless when you finally meet someone you marry, and all you can do is compare them to your previous partners.
I know Im on a losing side. Most of you are probably against me, but Id just like you to consider the idea of, not chastity, but, however hard it may be, not sleeping around. If you meet someone special to you, by all means, even if its not the first. At least then its actually meaningful. But having shallow, meaningless sex is....well...m**********g. YOU'LL GO BLIND SON!!
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Love's not illogical, it's biological.
15 points? ouch.
(sigh) Im sure Trish could back me up here. In a group of apes for example, there is one alpha who is the primary 'love machine' for want of a better word. If any other male tries anything then he'll attack him and beat into submission, more or less, or at least threaten him. I never said stuff didnt go on behind his back, but the females are officially the alpha males mates, until challenged he has rights to them.
Why is everyone trying to have a go at me?? Anyway given the number of posts in this I have the right to be wrong sooner or later.
(sigh) Im sure Trish could back me up here. In a group of apes for example, there is one alpha who is the primary 'love machine' for want of a better word. If any other male tries anything then he'll attack him and beat into submission, more or less, or at least threaten him. I never said stuff didnt go on behind his back, but the females are officially the alpha males mates, until challenged he has rights to them.
Why is everyone trying to have a go at me?? Anyway given the number of posts in this I have the right to be wrong sooner or later.
Fozz wrote:
> please explain hedfix
I believe that female apes have been shown to be with multiple mates, afterall the alpha male can't be everywhere at one time.
I think whatever research you've based your conclusions on regarding this subject must be old and out of date.
> please explain hedfix
I believe that female apes have been shown to be with multiple mates, afterall the alpha male can't be everywhere at one time.
I think whatever research you've based your conclusions on regarding this subject must be old and out of date.
Kerry of course (by 15 points)
please explain hedfix
More people seem to be on that I thought.
Yup we can never prove love, or religeon, or sleeping around or anything. What we can do is worship the good God Fosters hoping that religeon isnt a bunch of mumbo jumbo, and that Foster himself will meet you at the frothy gates, glass in hand. What gives me faith is love. Love is completly illogical and just seems to develop randomly between 2 people. I met a girl and I love every single thing about her. There isnt a single physical attribute or part of her personailty that I dont love. Even things other people might not like, or might get grossed out about..lol. The fact that I dont know why I feel this way in the first place (sure I know why I love her, but WHY?) makes me think theres something else to life than reproduction. Theres no way I can prove it but I know Im not just doing it just in case (If there is no God then what did I loose, but if there is one then Im IN!) but rather because i believe there IS, and although I dont know what will happen after death, I have a firm belief that Im taken care of. Whatever happens is meant to be. Throughout my life whenever something happens I try and relate it to the big picture and I find reasons. Just now I tried to go to sleep, but I couldnt so I woke up and now Im debating. At 4am my alarm goes off, and was going to wake me but after I gave up trying to sleep I found my phone with the alarm on it was on US time so it wouldnt have woken me. There are so many little things like this. But also the bad stuff happens for a reason. I live 4708 (or so) miles away from my girlfriend, and we'll get to see each other about once a year. But its so much better this way because now we really value time spent together, and when were not together we talk constantly which means we have a really strong relationship. I dont doubt that God is working in my life.
(p.s who just won the all ireland?..Im guessing kerry)
More people seem to be on that I thought.
Yup we can never prove love, or religeon, or sleeping around or anything. What we can do is worship the good God Fosters hoping that religeon isnt a bunch of mumbo jumbo, and that Foster himself will meet you at the frothy gates, glass in hand. What gives me faith is love. Love is completly illogical and just seems to develop randomly between 2 people. I met a girl and I love every single thing about her. There isnt a single physical attribute or part of her personailty that I dont love. Even things other people might not like, or might get grossed out about..lol. The fact that I dont know why I feel this way in the first place (sure I know why I love her, but WHY?) makes me think theres something else to life than reproduction. Theres no way I can prove it but I know Im not just doing it just in case (If there is no God then what did I loose, but if there is one then Im IN!) but rather because i believe there IS, and although I dont know what will happen after death, I have a firm belief that Im taken care of. Whatever happens is meant to be. Throughout my life whenever something happens I try and relate it to the big picture and I find reasons. Just now I tried to go to sleep, but I couldnt so I woke up and now Im debating. At 4am my alarm goes off, and was going to wake me but after I gave up trying to sleep I found my phone with the alarm on it was on US time so it wouldnt have woken me. There are so many little things like this. But also the bad stuff happens for a reason. I live 4708 (or so) miles away from my girlfriend, and we'll get to see each other about once a year. But its so much better this way because now we really value time spent together, and when were not together we talk constantly which means we have a really strong relationship. I dont doubt that God is working in my life.
(p.s who just won the all ireland?..Im guessing kerry)
Fozz wrote:
> ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> How do you know it is only found in humans?
>
> Our nearest relative species are apes, and all of them use the alpha
> male system, where one alpha male gets all the mates.
Not true.
> ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> How do you know it is only found in humans?
>
> Our nearest relative species are apes, and all of them use the alpha
> male system, where one alpha male gets all the mates.
Not true.
I'm not sure where i stand on religion anymore, i'm not sure i want there to be anything else or someone to blame, it's never helped me or given me comfort, any sort of affirmation would only make me more bitter.
Fozz wrote:
> Yeah. Religeon has caused a huge amount of division throughout
> history. I dont really belong to any religeon, I was raised catholic,
> and I know Im a christian but I havent decided what I believe in
> fully yet. I think if everyone knew more about other religeons and
> wasnt afraid to try new things people would find they'd like all
> sorts of whacky stuff. lol. I find catholocism very seperatist,
> almost boycotting (THATS AN IRISH WORD!) other religeons.
My parents are different religions, my brothers are a different religion to my parents.
I was brought up with my family torn between bringing me up as Catholic (Im Irish) as would be expected or as a Lutheran (which is what happened). My brothers are Muslim, as is most of my family. I decided religion wasnt for me, Id rather believe in the people on Earth than in someone who quite possibly does not even exist.
> Yeah. Religeon has caused a huge amount of division throughout
> history. I dont really belong to any religeon, I was raised catholic,
> and I know Im a christian but I havent decided what I believe in
> fully yet. I think if everyone knew more about other religeons and
> wasnt afraid to try new things people would find they'd like all
> sorts of whacky stuff. lol. I find catholocism very seperatist,
> almost boycotting (THATS AN IRISH WORD!) other religeons.
My parents are different religions, my brothers are a different religion to my parents.
I was brought up with my family torn between bringing me up as Catholic (Im Irish) as would be expected or as a Lutheran (which is what happened). My brothers are Muslim, as is most of my family. I decided religion wasnt for me, Id rather believe in the people on Earth than in someone who quite possibly does not even exist.
Fozz wrote:
> hmm. I see. Now were back at the whole adding meaning thang. I see
> love as being more than an emotional attachment, maybe thats why I
> dont think animals have the ability to. I guess I think its party
> about questioning and self awareness, but not wholly. So we're back
> where if you think love has a deeper meaning than just liking someone
> etc then yada yada (see previous posts). I think love has ties to
> religeon as I believe that I love because of a higher presence, but
> thats just me.
So then proof is sort of beyond the argument, especially if you're basing with religion, none of which can be proved (or disproved). Likewise an animal's feelings can't be proved or disproved.
Scientifically, you could say that love, free will, etc are all illusions that are softwired into the human psyche that have helped survival.
Now technically, mind processes being a reaction of brain chemical processes, each being triggered by direct causes, then cause and effect is true. But this process is so mathematically chaotic then it might as well be free will.
Likewise is love. Human's seem to have more emotional depth than animals, but the core feelings remain.
> hmm. I see. Now were back at the whole adding meaning thang. I see
> love as being more than an emotional attachment, maybe thats why I
> dont think animals have the ability to. I guess I think its party
> about questioning and self awareness, but not wholly. So we're back
> where if you think love has a deeper meaning than just liking someone
> etc then yada yada (see previous posts). I think love has ties to
> religeon as I believe that I love because of a higher presence, but
> thats just me.
So then proof is sort of beyond the argument, especially if you're basing with religion, none of which can be proved (or disproved). Likewise an animal's feelings can't be proved or disproved.
Scientifically, you could say that love, free will, etc are all illusions that are softwired into the human psyche that have helped survival.
Now technically, mind processes being a reaction of brain chemical processes, each being triggered by direct causes, then cause and effect is true. But this process is so mathematically chaotic then it might as well be free will.
Likewise is love. Human's seem to have more emotional depth than animals, but the core feelings remain.
Yeah. Religeon has caused a huge amount of division throughout history. I dont really belong to any religeon, I was raised catholic, and I know Im a christian but I havent decided what I believe in fully yet. I think if everyone knew more about other religeons and wasnt afraid to try new things people would find they'd like all sorts of whacky stuff. lol. I find catholocism very seperatist, almost boycotting (THATS AN IRISH WORD!) other religeons.
perhaps different religeons are just different ways of looking at the same idea. It could be the same ITS GODS FAULT idea, or it could just be that different cultures and different people have trouble following the same faith exactly, so each religeon is worshiping the same God, but tailored to suit the culture or person. eh.
perhaps different religeons are just different ways of looking at the same idea. It could be the same ITS GODS FAULT idea, or it could just be that different cultures and different people have trouble following the same faith exactly, so each religeon is worshiping the same God, but tailored to suit the culture or person. eh.
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