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There we go, PSP has just out sold DS for the first time.
Many people have waited for years for a console that is not Nintendo with the usual line of of Nintendo games. And the stylus is not going to save the DS. DS just is not powerfull enough to take on PSP. How many years til the GBA2 is released?
Many people have waited for years for a console that is not Nintendo with the usual line of of Nintendo games. And the stylus is not going to save the DS. DS just is not powerfull enough to take on PSP. How many years til the GBA2 is released?
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Not sure now, but didnt the Q cost like £400-£500?
That might be one reason to choose a £200-£300 PS2 which can also play movies and have a wider selection of games.
That might be one reason to choose a £200-£300 PS2 which can also play movies and have a wider selection of games.
Macintosh wrote:
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
You sort of missed my sarcasm with the whole disc changing thing...
When I said that people had lost 10 seconds of their life changing Final Fantasy 7 discs a whole twice throughout the entire game...
What would be more concerning was loading times getting in the way of gaming that both the Saturn and Playstation suffered from, but the N64 didn't. Hence the reason for Nintendo choosing carts.
The big drawback was that I had to play CDs on my CD player instead! :-(
> And I still say the PS2 ablity to play DVD movies was a good idea,
> due to the lack of cheap DVD players at that time. Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies,
Which is why Gamecubes all played VHS tapes...
> then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
They were considering it as a possibility, but yeah, it wasn't very realistic. :-)
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q", which lots (cough, a few die
> hards) thought would become the machine of choice. All I can say to
> that is, Q: Exit.
Yeah. A limited edition 100,000 (or something similar, right?) made Q's were going to dominate the 6 billion world population...
Okay. Who are you?
You act so blatantly retarded to but you also know too much to be so.
Who's the troll in disguise and who's donning the Top Score mask.
We're on to you, we're just complete mugs, that's all! :-P
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
You sort of missed my sarcasm with the whole disc changing thing...
When I said that people had lost 10 seconds of their life changing Final Fantasy 7 discs a whole twice throughout the entire game...
What would be more concerning was loading times getting in the way of gaming that both the Saturn and Playstation suffered from, but the N64 didn't. Hence the reason for Nintendo choosing carts.
The big drawback was that I had to play CDs on my CD player instead! :-(
> And I still say the PS2 ablity to play DVD movies was a good idea,
> due to the lack of cheap DVD players at that time. Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies,
Which is why Gamecubes all played VHS tapes...
> then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
They were considering it as a possibility, but yeah, it wasn't very realistic. :-)
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q", which lots (cough, a few die
> hards) thought would become the machine of choice. All I can say to
> that is, Q: Exit.
Yeah. A limited edition 100,000 (or something similar, right?) made Q's were going to dominate the 6 billion world population...
Okay. Who are you?
You act so blatantly retarded to but you also know too much to be so.
Who's the troll in disguise and who's donning the Top Score mask.
We're on to you, we're just complete mugs, that's all! :-P
Macintosh wrote:
> Why would Panasonic bother making a product that they they thought
> was never going to sell as a "mass market" item? What would
> be the point?
To make money, obviously. They didn't think that it would be appealing enough to enough people to market it as a mass alternative to the GC. It's like the tribal variant of the GBASP, or the limited edition silver Gamecubes.
> Here is the ironic bit. If the Nintendo GameCube and Panasonic Q had
> a 50/50 share of the market, I might have been tempted by the
> "Q".
Why? Why does market share make a difference to you? If you were interested in a Q why didn't you buy one? Once you've got it it doesn't need any special media to support it. What on earth do you care about market share?
The fact is that Nintendo and Panasonic just didn't think that people would really want a DVD playing Gamecube. In the end that's probably true. Perhaps if there had been no GC and only the Q, Nintendo would be in a better position today, perhaps not. Personally I think that they would have been better off if the GC was designed like the Q, but without the pricy DVD playing functionality.
> Why would Panasonic bother making a product that they they thought
> was never going to sell as a "mass market" item? What would
> be the point?
To make money, obviously. They didn't think that it would be appealing enough to enough people to market it as a mass alternative to the GC. It's like the tribal variant of the GBASP, or the limited edition silver Gamecubes.
> Here is the ironic bit. If the Nintendo GameCube and Panasonic Q had
> a 50/50 share of the market, I might have been tempted by the
> "Q".
Why? Why does market share make a difference to you? If you were interested in a Q why didn't you buy one? Once you've got it it doesn't need any special media to support it. What on earth do you care about market share?
The fact is that Nintendo and Panasonic just didn't think that people would really want a DVD playing Gamecube. In the end that's probably true. Perhaps if there had been no GC and only the Q, Nintendo would be in a better position today, perhaps not. Personally I think that they would have been better off if the GC was designed like the Q, but without the pricy DVD playing functionality.
gerrid wrote:
> Macintosh wrote:
> Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
>
> Stop pulling crap out of your ass and smearing it all over your posts
> as fact. Nintendo marketed the Gamecube as a pure gaming machine, not
> a mulitmedia device. They never said anything about VHS or playing
> movies on GC discs. You've just taken some stupid headline from an
> independant magazine and started using it like it was Nintendo
> policy.
>
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q",
>
> "concerned" - the Q was an alternative and as such was
> never a mass market product. It was never marketed or touted as a
> mass market product. Heck it was never released outside of Japan.
> Surely that a gamecube without a DVD player sold better than a
> gamecube with one proves the whole idea that having a DVD player
> isn't as big a draw as you seem to think.
Why would Panasonic bother making a product that they they thought was never going to sell as a "mass market" item? What would be the point?
Here is the ironic bit. If the Nintendo GameCube and Panasonic Q had a 50/50 share of the market, I might have been tempted by the "Q".
> Macintosh wrote:
> Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
>
> Stop pulling crap out of your ass and smearing it all over your posts
> as fact. Nintendo marketed the Gamecube as a pure gaming machine, not
> a mulitmedia device. They never said anything about VHS or playing
> movies on GC discs. You've just taken some stupid headline from an
> independant magazine and started using it like it was Nintendo
> policy.
>
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q",
>
> "concerned" - the Q was an alternative and as such was
> never a mass market product. It was never marketed or touted as a
> mass market product. Heck it was never released outside of Japan.
> Surely that a gamecube without a DVD player sold better than a
> gamecube with one proves the whole idea that having a DVD player
> isn't as big a draw as you seem to think.
Why would Panasonic bother making a product that they they thought was never going to sell as a "mass market" item? What would be the point?
Here is the ironic bit. If the Nintendo GameCube and Panasonic Q had a 50/50 share of the market, I might have been tempted by the "Q".
Dringo wrote:
> Nintendo did switch to DVD.
>
> Good God I just want to punch him one for getting so many things
> wrong.
You can call that GameCube disc a "mini-DVD" if you want, but it doesnt change the fact that nobody other than Nintendo supports it.
> Nintendo did switch to DVD.
>
> Good God I just want to punch him one for getting so many things
> wrong.
You can call that GameCube disc a "mini-DVD" if you want, but it doesnt change the fact that nobody other than Nintendo supports it.
Macintosh wrote:
> Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
Stop pulling crap out of your ass and smearing it all over your posts as fact. Nintendo marketed the Gamecube as a pure gaming machine, not a mulitmedia device. They never said anything about VHS or playing movies on GC discs. You've just taken some stupid headline from an independant magazine and started using it like it was Nintendo policy.
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q",
"concerned" - the Q was an alternative and as such was never a mass market product. It was never marketed or touted as a mass market product. Heck it was never released outside of Japan. Surely that a gamecube without a DVD player sold better than a gamecube with one proves the whole idea that having a DVD player isn't as big a draw as you seem to think.
> Nintendo thought
> we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said
> the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right).
Stop pulling crap out of your ass and smearing it all over your posts as fact. Nintendo marketed the Gamecube as a pure gaming machine, not a mulitmedia device. They never said anything about VHS or playing movies on GC discs. You've just taken some stupid headline from an independant magazine and started using it like it was Nintendo policy.
> They were so
> concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD
> combi player called the "Q",
"concerned" - the Q was an alternative and as such was never a mass market product. It was never marketed or touted as a mass market product. Heck it was never released outside of Japan. Surely that a gamecube without a DVD player sold better than a gamecube with one proves the whole idea that having a DVD player isn't as big a draw as you seem to think.
Nintendo did switch to DVD.
Good God I just want to punch him one for getting so many things wrong.
Good God I just want to punch him one for getting so many things wrong.
Tphi wrote:
> Macintosh wrote:
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
>
> Wrong, what abouts the Phantom, eh?
Thats a joke, right?
BTW,
I guess the Phantom is a "phantom".
> Macintosh wrote:
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
>
> Wrong, what abouts the Phantom, eh?
Thats a joke, right?
BTW,
I guess the Phantom is a "phantom".
Macintosh wrote:
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
Wrong, what abouts the Phantom, eh?
> Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched
> to DVD.
Wrong, what abouts the Phantom, eh?
Strafio wrote:
> :-)
>
>
> You kind of missed my tongue in cheek there Macio.
> Yes, Playstation loading times were not quite 5 minutes, but you get
> the picture.
> And there was no disc changing on the N64 (or cart changing for that
> matter) wheras for some Playstation games like Final Fantasy 7, you
> had to waste a good 5-10 seconds of your life, changing the disc TWO
> TIMES every time you played through the game!!!! :-O
Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched to DVD.
And I still say the PS2 ablity to play DVD movies was a good idea, due to the lack of cheap DVD players at that time. Nintendo thought we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right). They were so concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD combi player called the "Q", which lots (cough, a few die hards) thought would become the machine of choice. All I can say to that is, Q: Exit.
> :-)
>
>
> You kind of missed my tongue in cheek there Macio.
> Yes, Playstation loading times were not quite 5 minutes, but you get
> the picture.
> And there was no disc changing on the N64 (or cart changing for that
> matter) wheras for some Playstation games like Final Fantasy 7, you
> had to waste a good 5-10 seconds of your life, changing the disc TWO
> TIMES every time you played through the game!!!! :-O
Hence the reason why everyone (apart from Nintendo that is) switched to DVD.
And I still say the PS2 ablity to play DVD movies was a good idea, due to the lack of cheap DVD players at that time. Nintendo thought we should use VHS tapes for movies, then changed their mind and said the GameCube disc could be used for movies (yea, right). They were so concerned, that Panasonic were sub-contracted to make a GameCube-DVD combi player called the "Q", which lots (cough, a few die hards) thought would become the machine of choice. All I can say to that is, Q: Exit.
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