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"Ditch the Gamecube Nintendo (43% drop in profit)"

I know some of you will point out the fact that, in spite of the loss compared to last year's earnings, Nintendo has still accrued a profit to the tune of $600,000,000. While that is a large sum of money it needs to be realized that the amount of that profit is not too far from being HALF of their previous year's profits. That means that Nintendo has that much money LESS to put into things like research and development for things like new games and new systems. Also, game companies are less likely to put their time and money into a company that posts losses as massive as 43%. If this trend continues, it could have some nasty repercussions. People could lose their jobs (I feel sure some heads have already rolled after the news of a profit loss this significant), for one thing. And companies will not want to invest in another company that will not post a meaningful profit for their efforts. So yeah, Nintendo still posted a profit. But when that profit is in the shadow of a previous year that was 43% HIGHER, then the 'profit' tends to lose significance. Just some things to consider.

The Gamecube is costing Nintendo big and sagging sales are a large part of their problem, ditch the deadwood before it's to late.

Another point I'd like to make is that with the DS and PSP is that apart from the battery life which deters me from the PSP, I'm also unable to justify spending about 150-200 on a handheld. The DS will cost less, will have games I know I'll enjoy and i can use it on the move (FOR MORE THAN 3 HOURS).

I don't want people to ditch systems early as it means those without the means to purchase new systems are left behind. For a handheld, the PSP is likely to be far too expensive for many!

Keep producing for GC etc otherwise customers will be left behind, and this is bad for the industry in general, as would Sony having a monopoly, which can easily be demonstrated with Micro-shifty's seeming monopoly on PC OS.

But it just drives me mad when people say that, I've heard it so often.

There will be a MArio game at launch, almost certainly. Mario 128 is built especially for the Gamecube whilst Mario Revolution is built for Revolution.

And I don't think I could wait 2 years for that Zelda game.

I wasn't doom and gloom, rather the opposite, I saw the DS as being a success, just didn't have a good enough software line up.

The European line up is excellent. Thusly I take it back.

From the top, to the bottom.

I didn't say there'd be NO good revolution titles, i said if you had those 2 as release titles then it would be Checkmate, and if you take off the rose-tinted spectacles (should have gone to specsavers) then you'll be able to see where I'm coming from.

See you're Nintendo Pro today, the other day you was Mr. Doom and Gloom, Mr. DS is crap, Mr. I won't be getting a DS till next Christmas and until it has a tribal tattoo on.

Didn't want to start an argument with Sir Dringo himself, i was making a point, my point - if somebody doesn't see through your viewpoint then you go mad. Like a Jehovah's Witness of the gaming world.

Ah so you're yet another one who seems to think that because Mario 128 is due on the Gamecube that automatically means there's no good launch titles for Revolution.

That Nintendo's massive EAD department, NTSC, Retro, Camelot, Hal and so forth haven't got any plans for Revolution at all.

You miss the entire point of revolution. Totally! Revolution is supposed to be totally different, playing totally different types of games.

Zelda and Mario 128 are Gamecube games. They'll be damn good but they won't be a totally new type of game.

To put it simply Mario 128 and Zelda might not actually work on the Revolution.

And besides, the Gamecube has another 2 years on its life cycle. Do you honestly expect no more AAA titles? I can guarentee there'll be even more Gamecube games to be announced.

We still don't know about the new Pokemon, or the new Kirby game, we haven't seen much of Dance Dance Revolution with Mario, Nintendo's new baseball game or Mario Baseball at that. And that has all been confirmed in the last 2 months.

Camelot'll have another Gamecube game in the works too.

What is peoples obsession with not wanting anymore cool Gamecube software.

I know, but launch titles sell the thing for Pete's sake! I don't care about backwards compatibility, i aren't going to buy a Revolution and buy a Gamecube game. Those 2 on release, with 'revolutionary' features - I'd pre-order one the soonest day i could .

I hate it when people say that. Zelda is due this year, Gamecube is due late next year. Don't go jumping the gun.

You considered that these games won't work on Revolution? Revolution is supposed to change the way games are played forever. Why would Nintendo stick a normal game on it?

Why give up on the Gamecube so early?

And besides, Revolution'll be backwards compatible.

Ohh, its another PSP vs. DS argument! I must say, the title was a little misleading - it said something about Gamecube as the topic title.

Anywho - I still think the next Zelda and Mario 128 should be released on the Revolution. It makes SO much sense, they'd sell millions if they had those two as release titles. Releasing them close to GC's death doesn't sound like a clever plan to me, surely ?

Tscore05 wrote:
the DS.
>
> The reason that the PSP has only just started outselling the DS is
> because the problems that Sony has with shortages. Now they are
> getting on top of that and people are starting to see how much better
> the PSP is than the DS things are swinging Sony's way.

LOL! The DS was on the market for over a month and one week it still sold 108,000

The PSP has shortages yet when they got the stock they sold a measly 64,000... actually that's pretty decent but no where near as high as the DS did when they didn't have any shortages.

The PSP had shortages and when they had the stock they still didn't sell much more.

*laughs*

The DS sold just 10,000 less as well.

*laughs some more*

Tscore05 wrote:
> The PSP is making a greater loss because of the technology cramed
> into the handheld rather than sticking to the slight upgrade from
> GBA, Sony has gone all out for next gen gaming.

I'll agree with that, the PP has the better specs but however to take advantage of them all you're gonna have to fork out loads of money.

Memory stick to play MP3s. Memory sticks are expensive, if you want to get a deent amount of music onto your PSP then you'll have to fork out more.

Extra batteries to make up for the pathetic battery life. Considering Ridge Racer only managed 2 3/4 hours from a full charge then you're gonna have to pay £40 - £50 for a new battery. This may be even lower when playing movies.

They're made the most powerful unit, but seem to have forgotten that the meaning of portable involve being able to move away from power sockets for 3 hours!

Dringo wrote:
> Tscore05 wrote:
> Doesn't seem to be stopping the PSP from outselling the DS in Japan
> then again the Japanese have alway like high tec gadgets obviously
> when it comes to the DS it's found wanting. My etcha sketch has a
> better screen than the DS.
>
> LOL! The PSP isn't outselling the DS in Japan.
>
> Last week sales on the PSP were higher than the DS by 10,000
>
> The week before sales of the DS were higher than the PSP by over
> 40,000
>
> Now, as a bussiness, I know who I'd rather be. Especially as Sony are
> making a larger loss on the PSP (a very large loss) than Nintendo are
> on the DS.

The reason that the PSP has only just started outselling the DS is because the problems that Sony has with shortages. Now they are getting on top of that and people are starting to see how much better the PSP is than the DS things are swinging Sony's way.

The PSP is making a greater loss because of the technology cramed into the handheld rather than sticking to the slight upgrade from GBA, Sony has gone all out for next gen gaming.