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Sat 07/08/04 at 22:37
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I figure it's about time I get myself a career.
Or at least a decent-paying stable job.

I'm getting on a bit, finished my degree, taken a year out, and in a year I'll have finished my masters (to kill time).
I need to get my own place, get some money together, settle down. And a career, or something with a decent wage, is central to doing that. Really it has to be fairly long term too.

And that's my gripe - 'long term'.
I've never had a job which I've held for more than a couple of weeks, without hating it, going to work, being unhappy, going home, finding I'd wasted a whole day of my life doing nothing that made the day worth living.
Time is the essence of life and all that, when time slips away, wasted, it's your life that you're wasting. Another day closer to the grave, and another day you might as well not have been alive.


I admit I've never had particularly good jobs, but I've done office work, shop work, manual work, it all quickly becomes boring, uninteresting and unenjoyable. And then you're wasting your life again.

I guess I have a vey short attention span, things become samey fast, and then it's hard to care about what you're doing.
I can't see a job where that wouldn't be a problem.
I can't imagine a job where it wouldn't be a problem.
So I can't imagine a job where, long term, I could be anything but unhappy.


I'm qualified for nothing.
I have a law degree, but that's not a qualification to practice law.
Everything else, I'm unqualified for.
I guess there's graduate stuff, but I've never seen anything that doesn't suck.
After the masters I'll be (moderately) qualified to work in forensics, but I don't want to. To be honest, if I hadn't already signed my rent contract I doubt I'd still be going at all.

I have one job in mind to apply to after the masters, but even that will probably decay into miserable toil. No worse than anything else at least. But that's only if I get the job.

I think I'd quite like to train dolphins for scientific research - see how far I could take them in developing communication. I've seen some impressive stuff in that field, but all the people working there seem to lack the vision to take things forward a level.
But that's a pipe dream, something I'll never get the opportunity to do.


Being condemned to a life of miserable toil scares the crap out of me.


I don't know if I'm looking for advice, or just trying to get it off my chest. I think a bit of both.
Ah well, I'm out of stuff to say. Thanks for reading, if you did.
Wed 11/08/04 at 11:36
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"Wanking Mong"
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Commiserations. No, seriously; jobhunting sucks.
Wed 11/08/04 at 12:43
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Yep, sure does. I found there was a contact number you could ring on the rejection letter if you wanted any more information, and basically the problem was that in the areas of the country I could work in there were simply no vacancies now or expected - and considering that the first question on the initial form was "Where can you work" it seems insane to drag someone through the whole recruitment process when there was not an actual vacancy in the first place. *fumes*
Wed 11/08/04 at 18:41
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What also sucks is often times they'll promote internally but have to advertise externally as well, to comply with labour regulations covering that sort of thing.
The fragrance house I worked at did that exact same thing, forced by law to advertise but had no intention of hiring anybody except one of the lab rats from upstairs.
Thu 12/08/04 at 11:30
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That happened to my dad a few months ago, jerked around at a 2 day interview for a job he never had a chance at getting :^(

I'm not sure whether I should resent the people who do it, or the law that makes them.

On one hand, the law does force them to do it, but on the other, the law's there for a reason - maybe they shouldn't be able to recruit internally like that, and they're just trying to evade a legitimate law with 'hoax' interviews.


Maybe they should be forced to advertise, but be allowed to reject all applications before interview if none are good enough to make them reconsider giving the job to someone with experience w/in the company and stuff..
Thu 12/08/04 at 13:14
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Happened to my dad a lot of times too when he got made redundant.

He was far the best man for the job but they already had it lined up for an employee.
Thu 12/08/04 at 13:27
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Mumbai Duck wrote:

> On one hand, the law does force them to do it, but on the other, the
> law's there for a reason - maybe they shouldn't be able to recruit
> internally like that, and they're just trying to evade a legitimate
> law with 'hoax' interviews.

You have to recruit internally otherwise you will end up getting a load of unmotivated staff. If workers see colleagues gettign promoted and not from outside it not only makes them think ok there is space to be promoted if i work hard, but if that doesnt happen the motivation can soon drop.

I do agree tho the law sounds like it sucks but can anyone actually find where it says this as im not sure its as bad as it is. As companies have the opportunity to recruit internally or externally and i think the government doesnt get much say as long as they follow laws such as discrimination act and equal rights.
Thu 12/08/04 at 13:56
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Well Duck, I'd say follow your dreams, but I don't think that it would be too good an idea in this case. Unless you know of a way to get funding for dolphin training.

Why did you do a law degree if you have little intention of ever becoming a lawyer? I realise a lot of people go to university just because they want to, but law seems a strange choice for that.

I have what many would consider a fantastic job. It pays well, involves travelling a lot abroad and seems rather exotic. Except, it still has paperwork and obnoxious morons who can tell me what to do.

Sure, as jobs go it seems better than most, and on the whole I am fairly happy with it. But I'd rather not work at all. However, working finances the rest of my life. The same as Light with his job allowing him to act. You may find it difficult to compromise like that, Goatboy did.

Find a job you can stand, then work towards your dreams. You might find that plumbing is the thing for you. In which case uni might end up having been a waste of time and money. But you would never have known without going now would you?

Light could have jacked in everything and moved to LA because he wants to act. Hell, he might even have been the next Dr Drake Ramirez. (Hey, drake is a type of duck...). But he realised that wasn't the best way to do what he wanted to. At the end of the day it is probably better to be getting paid whilst figuring out how to get your dream job rather than be sitting at home thinking about it.

Get something for now, but keep looking. Above all though, don't let work rule your life. There are far more important things in life. 40 hours a week is less than a quarter of the week. Keep that in mind.
Thu 12/08/04 at 17:18
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About time to get a career? just don't work in maccy D's, you'll learn the secret to milkshakes, it's not pretty, no one should drink rats milk, well except maybe rats.
Fri 13/08/04 at 12:47
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Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Well Duck, I'd say follow your dreams, but I don't think that it would
> be too good an idea in this case. Unless you know of a way to get
> funding for dolphin training.

Heh, I figure that's fair. But now I need a new dream. And earning a living as Halle Berry's gigolo doesn't sound so viable either :^(


> Why did you do a law degree if you have little intention of ever
> becoming a lawyer? I realise a lot of people go to university just
> because they want to, but law seems a strange choice for that.

I was considering the idea, and wasn't sure whether I wanted it or not.
Plus, there was nothing else I really wanted to do, then I got offered a scholarship for it, and sold out :^)


> I have what many would consider a fantastic job. It pays well,
> involves travelling a lot abroad and seems rather exotic. Except, it
> still has paperwork and obnoxious morons who can tell me what to do.

Come on, you can't just not tell us what it is now! :^D


> Get something for now, but keep looking. Above all though, don't let
> work rule your life. There are far more important things in life. 40
> hours a week is less than a quarter of the week. Keep that in mind.

Heh, fortunately I'm a month from starting killing time in a masters - more productive than killing time in a rubbish job, but not so good financially...
Fri 20/08/04 at 00:58
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After reading this post it made me think what I'd want to do after Uni.

I've deceided with a degree in Social Sciences, Arts and a brief encounter with Science or a more technical subject I might like to move into some sort of charity.

The idea of working for some sort of The Office type company scares me, I think I'd like for some sort of non-profit company. And as I already work with WRVS I think it would be a wise move forward.

I had the intelligence and ability to study Medicine/Law but I've went along with what interests me so I think I should continue this into employment.

Rip me apart if you wish. Also, I may look into teaching but we'll see.

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