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I figure it's about time I get myself a career.
Or at least a decent-paying stable job.
I'm getting on a bit, finished my degree, taken a year out, and in a year I'll have finished my masters (to kill time).
I need to get my own place, get some money together, settle down. And a career, or something with a decent wage, is central to doing that. Really it has to be fairly long term too.
And that's my gripe - 'long term'.
I've never had a job which I've held for more than a couple of weeks, without hating it, going to work, being unhappy, going home, finding I'd wasted a whole day of my life doing nothing that made the day worth living.
Time is the essence of life and all that, when time slips away, wasted, it's your life that you're wasting. Another day closer to the grave, and another day you might as well not have been alive.
I admit I've never had particularly good jobs, but I've done office work, shop work, manual work, it all quickly becomes boring, uninteresting and unenjoyable. And then you're wasting your life again.
I guess I have a vey short attention span, things become samey fast, and then it's hard to care about what you're doing.
I can't see a job where that wouldn't be a problem.
I can't imagine a job where it wouldn't be a problem.
So I can't imagine a job where, long term, I could be anything but unhappy.
I'm qualified for nothing.
I have a law degree, but that's not a qualification to practice law.
Everything else, I'm unqualified for.
I guess there's graduate stuff, but I've never seen anything that doesn't suck.
After the masters I'll be (moderately) qualified to work in forensics, but I don't want to. To be honest, if I hadn't already signed my rent contract I doubt I'd still be going at all.
I have one job in mind to apply to after the masters, but even that will probably decay into miserable toil. No worse than anything else at least. But that's only if I get the job.
I think I'd quite like to train dolphins for scientific research - see how far I could take them in developing communication. I've seen some impressive stuff in that field, but all the people working there seem to lack the vision to take things forward a level.
But that's a pipe dream, something I'll never get the opportunity to do.
Being condemned to a life of miserable toil scares the crap out of me.
I don't know if I'm looking for advice, or just trying to get it off my chest. I think a bit of both.
Ah well, I'm out of stuff to say. Thanks for reading, if you did.
Or at least a decent-paying stable job.
I'm getting on a bit, finished my degree, taken a year out, and in a year I'll have finished my masters (to kill time).
I need to get my own place, get some money together, settle down. And a career, or something with a decent wage, is central to doing that. Really it has to be fairly long term too.
And that's my gripe - 'long term'.
I've never had a job which I've held for more than a couple of weeks, without hating it, going to work, being unhappy, going home, finding I'd wasted a whole day of my life doing nothing that made the day worth living.
Time is the essence of life and all that, when time slips away, wasted, it's your life that you're wasting. Another day closer to the grave, and another day you might as well not have been alive.
I admit I've never had particularly good jobs, but I've done office work, shop work, manual work, it all quickly becomes boring, uninteresting and unenjoyable. And then you're wasting your life again.
I guess I have a vey short attention span, things become samey fast, and then it's hard to care about what you're doing.
I can't see a job where that wouldn't be a problem.
I can't imagine a job where it wouldn't be a problem.
So I can't imagine a job where, long term, I could be anything but unhappy.
I'm qualified for nothing.
I have a law degree, but that's not a qualification to practice law.
Everything else, I'm unqualified for.
I guess there's graduate stuff, but I've never seen anything that doesn't suck.
After the masters I'll be (moderately) qualified to work in forensics, but I don't want to. To be honest, if I hadn't already signed my rent contract I doubt I'd still be going at all.
I have one job in mind to apply to after the masters, but even that will probably decay into miserable toil. No worse than anything else at least. But that's only if I get the job.
I think I'd quite like to train dolphins for scientific research - see how far I could take them in developing communication. I've seen some impressive stuff in that field, but all the people working there seem to lack the vision to take things forward a level.
But that's a pipe dream, something I'll never get the opportunity to do.
Being condemned to a life of miserable toil scares the crap out of me.
I don't know if I'm looking for advice, or just trying to get it off my chest. I think a bit of both.
Ah well, I'm out of stuff to say. Thanks for reading, if you did.
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Icarus mk2 wrote:
> Hilarious response, from a postie who still doesn't get it.
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Y'see mate, you can't insult me by calling me Postie.
Because I'm damn happy doing it and proud of doing an honest day's work instead of marketing crap people don't need to make more money for themselves.
I get it, so don't get sniffy.
Some people are happy doing whatever. Duck isn't, and doesn't want that.
Yet there are posts here saying "Well face reality, you'll have to settle for doing X", I'm saying he doesn't.
Don't get redfaced with me because I'm pointing out that an awful lot of people settle for a nice secure mortgage providing job instead of doing something they love.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't - it doesn't matter because my post was to Duck about his feelings, similar to my own.
Stop trying to justify you trading in dreams and hopes for a paycheck Kemo-Sabe and direct that frustration where it belongs.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to be a postie.
> Hilarious response, from a postie who still doesn't get it.
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Y'see mate, you can't insult me by calling me Postie.
Because I'm damn happy doing it and proud of doing an honest day's work instead of marketing crap people don't need to make more money for themselves.
I get it, so don't get sniffy.
Some people are happy doing whatever. Duck isn't, and doesn't want that.
Yet there are posts here saying "Well face reality, you'll have to settle for doing X", I'm saying he doesn't.
Don't get redfaced with me because I'm pointing out that an awful lot of people settle for a nice secure mortgage providing job instead of doing something they love.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't - it doesn't matter because my post was to Duck about his feelings, similar to my own.
Stop trying to justify you trading in dreams and hopes for a paycheck Kemo-Sabe and direct that frustration where it belongs.
Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to be a postie.
Goatboy wrote:
>
> I'm sure you're perfectly happy researching Algorithms.
Hilarious response, from a postie who still doesn't get it.
>
> I'm sure you're perfectly happy researching Algorithms.
Hilarious response, from a postie who still doesn't get it.
Your post is making out that everyone is unhappy with their jobs.
Indeed.
I'm sure you're perfectly happy researching Algorithms.
Duck isn't, that was the point of his post. He doesn't want an office 9-5 thing.
Did you even read his post, or simply opened your book of happy to "Response 1313: Everybody is a special beautiful butterfly"?
I'm sure you're perfectly happy researching Algorithms.
Duck isn't, that was the point of his post. He doesn't want an office 9-5 thing.
Did you even read his post, or simply opened your book of happy to "Response 1313: Everybody is a special beautiful butterfly"?
Actually, as unbelievable as it may seem for you, people do look foward in their lives to do a job which may seem boring to others. I told my friends during college, I want to do research into AI, algorithms, stuff like that - and they say boooorrrring, dead end job, etc.
But it's not. Different people like different stuff.
To me, train spotters are dull gits. But it's a hobby for them. As you say in your post, you don't like the constant pressure, deadlines etc. But many do, they need such a structure to progress in their lives. Just because you see it differently doesn't mean they are the "crushed, miserable tools" that you say.
Of course, there are so many who do fit the bill; they hate their job, and don't do anything about it; but that lot hardly makes up 99.9% of the working world.
But it's not. Different people like different stuff.
To me, train spotters are dull gits. But it's a hobby for them. As you say in your post, you don't like the constant pressure, deadlines etc. But many do, they need such a structure to progress in their lives. Just because you see it differently doesn't mean they are the "crushed, miserable tools" that you say.
Of course, there are so many who do fit the bill; they hate their job, and don't do anything about it; but that lot hardly makes up 99.9% of the working world.
Don't sweat it Duck, you're with 99% of the world that doesn't want to do an ass job that will suck the marrow from your life and leave you shuffling into work until you get a retirement party that nobody comes to.
The simple answer?
Don't.
Don't listen to anybody saying "reality" blah blah blah, that's simply somebody trying to dissuade you from pursuing your goals because they don't have the balls to do likewise, y'know?
"Well you might as settle for the 9-5 routine and mortgage and savings because, like, the world is harsh"...yeah right.
I've done a load of different jobs. Some well paying, some not. But they never made me feel wortwhile or satisfied so I always walked away or behaved so badly I was fired.
I spent 4 years in marketing, sitting at a desk being in the top 10 posters here and earning decent money doing very little. But I was bored stiff by it, so I just walked away from it to go do teacher training.
Something I've always wanted to do.
Ok, it's going to take me a couple of years to save enough £ and buff-up a couple of qualifications but so what?
In the meantime, I'm a Postman.
And it's the best job I've ever had in my almost 17years of working.
No stress, no pressure, no deadlines, no supervisors/middle management asshats that have done nothing except go straight into a job with zero life experience.
Some of the best blokes I've ever worked with - though it's 5am, everybody is laughing and joking, singing and shouting.
You spend a couple hours in the depot prepping your walk, then off you go and it's just you for a few hours until you go home at lunchtime with the rest of your day to yourself.
Easy.
Just do whatever you want to do.
I remember Baz Luhrman (sp?) released a song called Sunscreen, and everybody bought it because of "the message, maaaan". Yet I'll bet money that 99.9% of those self-same people still went to a job they hated and killed time waiting for a weekend spent dreading Monday.
Don't listen to those crushed, miserable tools that say "Reality/life is hard/be an accountant" etc etc, that's what they've chosen to do with their life.
Don't let their self-annoyance at not being able to go for it drag you down.
I wonder just how many people ever said as a kid "When I grow up, I want to be a Data Analyst/Mid Management/Spreadsheet Intepreter/whatever"
There's an awful lot of squandered lives out there, and an awful lot of bitter snidey people that don't want you to at least fall trying to do what you want to.
The simple answer?
Don't.
Don't listen to anybody saying "reality" blah blah blah, that's simply somebody trying to dissuade you from pursuing your goals because they don't have the balls to do likewise, y'know?
"Well you might as settle for the 9-5 routine and mortgage and savings because, like, the world is harsh"...yeah right.
I've done a load of different jobs. Some well paying, some not. But they never made me feel wortwhile or satisfied so I always walked away or behaved so badly I was fired.
I spent 4 years in marketing, sitting at a desk being in the top 10 posters here and earning decent money doing very little. But I was bored stiff by it, so I just walked away from it to go do teacher training.
Something I've always wanted to do.
Ok, it's going to take me a couple of years to save enough £ and buff-up a couple of qualifications but so what?
In the meantime, I'm a Postman.
And it's the best job I've ever had in my almost 17years of working.
No stress, no pressure, no deadlines, no supervisors/middle management asshats that have done nothing except go straight into a job with zero life experience.
Some of the best blokes I've ever worked with - though it's 5am, everybody is laughing and joking, singing and shouting.
You spend a couple hours in the depot prepping your walk, then off you go and it's just you for a few hours until you go home at lunchtime with the rest of your day to yourself.
Easy.
Just do whatever you want to do.
I remember Baz Luhrman (sp?) released a song called Sunscreen, and everybody bought it because of "the message, maaaan". Yet I'll bet money that 99.9% of those self-same people still went to a job they hated and killed time waiting for a weekend spent dreading Monday.
Don't listen to those crushed, miserable tools that say "Reality/life is hard/be an accountant" etc etc, that's what they've chosen to do with their life.
Don't let their self-annoyance at not being able to go for it drag you down.
I wonder just how many people ever said as a kid "When I grow up, I want to be a Data Analyst/Mid Management/Spreadsheet Intepreter/whatever"
There's an awful lot of squandered lives out there, and an awful lot of bitter snidey people that don't want you to at least fall trying to do what you want to.
That's rather reminiscent of Red Alert 2, where they used dolphins to defeat ships and enemy swimmers. All terrorists need to do now is train squids to attack dolphins and it'll be a real life scenario.
Mumbai Duck wrote:
> Was this the job you had a forum for, deciding whether to go to the
> interview or keep with the training?
> Or have you been leaving everybody's training schemes? ;^)
Yup, that's the one, trying for something along the lines of what I originally wanted to begin with.
> Bah, if it was back in the cold war I could have bugged someone to
> fund me to train the dolphins to deliver a nuclear payload,
> undetected, to enemy subs / harbours / whatever. They just done
> whatever I wanted.
You've missed out already I'm afraid!
Following the attack on the USS Cole in 2001 the US Navy asked for funding to develop a new unit comprised of Dolphin's and handlers which would be deployed in harbour protection where US Navy ships were berthed, and also during operations. After 9/11 the funding was given and there are now supposed to be a fair few units used by the Navy and Homeland Security, which uses them for domestic ports during elevated alert status. Obviously there isn't much detail on how/what research is going, training etc, but the US Navy has experience of using Dolphins in combat roles - it trained them to find mines, to attack enemy divers, plant mines on the hulls of ships and submarines etc Never read about them actually being used for those missions in any capacity but the training was real, and is now.
> Was this the job you had a forum for, deciding whether to go to the
> interview or keep with the training?
> Or have you been leaving everybody's training schemes? ;^)
Yup, that's the one, trying for something along the lines of what I originally wanted to begin with.
> Bah, if it was back in the cold war I could have bugged someone to
> fund me to train the dolphins to deliver a nuclear payload,
> undetected, to enemy subs / harbours / whatever. They just done
> whatever I wanted.
You've missed out already I'm afraid!
Following the attack on the USS Cole in 2001 the US Navy asked for funding to develop a new unit comprised of Dolphin's and handlers which would be deployed in harbour protection where US Navy ships were berthed, and also during operations. After 9/11 the funding was given and there are now supposed to be a fair few units used by the Navy and Homeland Security, which uses them for domestic ports during elevated alert status. Obviously there isn't much detail on how/what research is going, training etc, but the US Navy has experience of using Dolphins in combat roles - it trained them to find mines, to attack enemy divers, plant mines on the hulls of ships and submarines etc Never read about them actually being used for those missions in any capacity but the training was real, and is now.
There's only one way to get variety in this ultra organised society these days. That is to get a degree, go on until your're bored of the profession, and repeat with a different area.
Unless at one stage of your life you want to be a bin man, or caretaker. No degrees for that.
Unless at one stage of your life you want to be a bin man, or caretaker. No degrees for that.
Stranger In Paradise wrote:
> I think the trainer guy at the PC place was probably quite depressed,
> because on the Tuesday another woman left, and last Friday I was at a
> graduate recruitment agency assessment day and two other people from
> the place were there as well, and they'd both left on the the Friday
> after me. Which means that 4 of the 10 of us had left within a week.
Heh. Seperating the wheat from the chaff early on huh? Sounds like he's keeping the wrong bits though :^)
Was this the job you had a forum for, deciding whether to go to the interview or keep with the training?
Or have you been leaving everybody's training schemes? ;^)
The dolphin thing.. I had a look at a web site, realised that virtually (or absolutely) everything in the field involves training them for stupid stunts and performing shows for tourists. Which isn't even remotely close to what I wanted to be doing.
Research into evaluating and developing their intelligence and means of communication. I don't think there's a job like that in the world.
Bah, if it was back in the cold war I could have bugged someone to fund me to train the dolphins to deliver a nuclear payload, undetected, to enemy subs / harbours / whatever. They just done whatever I wanted.
Hmm, maybe I should take this to a careers advisor - "I want a job in international relations, so I can provoke a new cold war, and pressure one side into funding me to train dolphins into organic nuclear missiles.
How many a-levels would I need?"
Hmm, maybe if I could promise to train the dolphins to spot terrorist paedophiles...
I have actually thought about the plumbing / electrician thing. I have a friend whose currently qualifying as an electrician, I've been meaning to have a chat about it.
I know someone else who works as a freelance builder, who might be able to point me in the right direction with plumbing too...
I'm not convinced I'd be totally happy in either, but there should be at least a little variety in the work, going to different jobs on different sites. And we were talking about being realistic.
Seems like a waste of a degree in a way, but then again no point throwing good time after bad just to keep on the same wrong track..
> I think the trainer guy at the PC place was probably quite depressed,
> because on the Tuesday another woman left, and last Friday I was at a
> graduate recruitment agency assessment day and two other people from
> the place were there as well, and they'd both left on the the Friday
> after me. Which means that 4 of the 10 of us had left within a week.
Heh. Seperating the wheat from the chaff early on huh? Sounds like he's keeping the wrong bits though :^)
Was this the job you had a forum for, deciding whether to go to the interview or keep with the training?
Or have you been leaving everybody's training schemes? ;^)
The dolphin thing.. I had a look at a web site, realised that virtually (or absolutely) everything in the field involves training them for stupid stunts and performing shows for tourists. Which isn't even remotely close to what I wanted to be doing.
Research into evaluating and developing their intelligence and means of communication. I don't think there's a job like that in the world.
Bah, if it was back in the cold war I could have bugged someone to fund me to train the dolphins to deliver a nuclear payload, undetected, to enemy subs / harbours / whatever. They just done whatever I wanted.
Hmm, maybe I should take this to a careers advisor - "I want a job in international relations, so I can provoke a new cold war, and pressure one side into funding me to train dolphins into organic nuclear missiles.
How many a-levels would I need?"
Hmm, maybe if I could promise to train the dolphins to spot terrorist paedophiles...
I have actually thought about the plumbing / electrician thing. I have a friend whose currently qualifying as an electrician, I've been meaning to have a chat about it.
I know someone else who works as a freelance builder, who might be able to point me in the right direction with plumbing too...
I'm not convinced I'd be totally happy in either, but there should be at least a little variety in the work, going to different jobs on different sites. And we were talking about being realistic.
Seems like a waste of a degree in a way, but then again no point throwing good time after bad just to keep on the same wrong track..
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