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It's a simple choice this time, who do you want as the next president of the U.S.A. ?
For those not familiar with the format, you make your choice and it's put beside your name, the votes will be counted up at a later date, 5 spaces have been left for those that want to vote but aren't on the list.
Bush or Kerry ?
32 votes
Bush - 8
Kerry - 24
Bush
Ashley - Bush
Chad Niga - Bush
Mattribute - Bush
Notorious Biggles - Bush
Archangel - Bush
Kr - Bush
Johnson - Bush
Belldandy - Bush
Kerry
Cong woman - Kerry
Dakarus Joe - Kerry
Flock - Kerry
Forest Fan - Kerry
Grix Thraves - Kerry
Light - Kerry
Lipe - Kerry
Mumbai Duck - Kerry
Rickoss - Kerry
RoJ - Kerry
Sheepy - Kerry
Silent Thunder - Kerry
Strafio - Kerry
Trish - Kerry
Very Metal - Kerry
Whitestripes DX - Kerry
Ultima Weapon - Kerry
Astoria - Kerry
Innuendo - Kerry
Yuri Fan Kerry
The Ghost - Kerry
Gamesfreak - Kerry
LSD - Kerry
Grebo - Kerry
For those not familiar with the format, you make your choice and it's put beside your name, the votes will be counted up at a later date, 5 spaces have been left for those that want to vote but aren't on the list.
Bush or Kerry ?
32 votes
Bush - 8
Kerry - 24
Bush
Ashley - Bush
Chad Niga - Bush
Mattribute - Bush
Notorious Biggles - Bush
Archangel - Bush
Kr - Bush
Johnson - Bush
Belldandy - Bush
Kerry
Cong woman - Kerry
Dakarus Joe - Kerry
Flock - Kerry
Forest Fan - Kerry
Grix Thraves - Kerry
Light - Kerry
Lipe - Kerry
Mumbai Duck - Kerry
Rickoss - Kerry
RoJ - Kerry
Sheepy - Kerry
Silent Thunder - Kerry
Strafio - Kerry
Trish - Kerry
Very Metal - Kerry
Whitestripes DX - Kerry
Ultima Weapon - Kerry
Astoria - Kerry
Innuendo - Kerry
Yuri Fan Kerry
The Ghost - Kerry
Gamesfreak - Kerry
LSD - Kerry
Grebo - Kerry
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Mumbai Duck wrote:
> Ashley wrote:
> so basically only a couple of us havee the balls to make our own
> decisions and not go with the flow.....hardly surprises me
>
> (ps. not saying all kerry supporters are weak, just the majority)
>
>
> Hmm. Rather a feeble way to try to devalue the opinions of Kerry
> supporters.
>
I too hate generalisations of support groups i do feel i am right here. I am a pretty well informed young person by todays standards! read several papers and take an active issue in most issues.
The thing that pissses me of in this debate is a lot of people realy don't have a clue. they just jump on the anti bush band wagon.
Having looked at whose on the list i may have been a bit sweeping but still there are a few about who'd support kerry whose best source of political inspiration is 2DTV. "ooh a cartoon and Alistair McGowan rip the pisss out of him, he must be a muppet".
I'd say the majority of brits (90%+) would have failed to have recognise kerry 6 months to a year ago. Similar numbers would probably fail to tell us now his representative state, and i bet most couldn't tell us any of his proposed issues, with the exception of "i'm not bush".
Its just annoying that stupid stereotyping of Bush and the extreme Anti war views of a minority, so greatly affect the undecided aswell as the uninformed.
> Ashley wrote:
> so basically only a couple of us havee the balls to make our own
> decisions and not go with the flow.....hardly surprises me
>
> (ps. not saying all kerry supporters are weak, just the majority)
>
>
> Hmm. Rather a feeble way to try to devalue the opinions of Kerry
> supporters.
>
I too hate generalisations of support groups i do feel i am right here. I am a pretty well informed young person by todays standards! read several papers and take an active issue in most issues.
The thing that pissses me of in this debate is a lot of people realy don't have a clue. they just jump on the anti bush band wagon.
Having looked at whose on the list i may have been a bit sweeping but still there are a few about who'd support kerry whose best source of political inspiration is 2DTV. "ooh a cartoon and Alistair McGowan rip the pisss out of him, he must be a muppet".
I'd say the majority of brits (90%+) would have failed to have recognise kerry 6 months to a year ago. Similar numbers would probably fail to tell us now his representative state, and i bet most couldn't tell us any of his proposed issues, with the exception of "i'm not bush".
Its just annoying that stupid stereotyping of Bush and the extreme Anti war views of a minority, so greatly affect the undecided aswell as the uninformed.
I admit that I barely know Kerry and purely thinking "not Bush", but because I'm not actually voting, it's not really a proper decision.
Still, the majority here have given good reason why they'd choose Kerry over Bush.
Most notably how if you're going to be ass-raped, then the least they can do is use some vaseline...
:-D
Still, the majority here have given good reason why they'd choose Kerry over Bush.
Most notably how if you're going to be ass-raped, then the least they can do is use some vaseline...
:-D
Mumbai Duck wrote:
> Lots of rhetorical questions designed to shoehorn the reader into
> agreeing that Kerry won't make a difference though.
Nope, that's how you chose to read it, it was actually a question followed by statements, you and anyone else were, and are, perfectly free to anser the question! I'm actually really interested to hear how he is going to make a difference but no one actually seems to know much beyond "he's not Bush".
On another note, I think it'sa little extreme to pick Kerry up on his Baseball statements, put it down to enthusiasm and PR maneouvering.
And if you don't want liars in the Whitehouse (is this possible?) then Mr Moore is a definite no no. He can't even get straight what his own distributors told him let alone anything important.
> Lots of rhetorical questions designed to shoehorn the reader into
> agreeing that Kerry won't make a difference though.
Nope, that's how you chose to read it, it was actually a question followed by statements, you and anyone else were, and are, perfectly free to anser the question! I'm actually really interested to hear how he is going to make a difference but no one actually seems to know much beyond "he's not Bush".
On another note, I think it'sa little extreme to pick Kerry up on his Baseball statements, put it down to enthusiasm and PR maneouvering.
And if you don't want liars in the Whitehouse (is this possible?) then Mr Moore is a definite no no. He can't even get straight what his own distributors told him let alone anything important.
Mumbai Duck wrote:
> Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i
> can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at
> all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE
> them. The rivalry is intense.
>
> :^o *Is shocked*
> It seems comparable to the lowest of the football fan f***wits.
> Is it really that bad?
> Heh, okay, I know I already asked that, it jst really really
> surprises me :^)
Yep it is, it comes from generations of baseball fans passing the hatred on and with each generation the hatred becomes more and more. I think it started when Babe Ruth was traded and 'the curse of the great Bambino' started. Ever since then the two teams have always been in competition. If all you're told when your young is to hate a certain something then eventually it starts to sink into the mind and they see the Sox (and vice versa) as the enemy and not just another team rolling into town.
Haven't seen any acts of violence because of it though, but i've been at games where a Sox fan has been in the middle of the Yankee crowd and just been heckled for the whole game.
(Geez i got to America for one week and come back and hijack a political topic and start talking about Baseball :-D)
> Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i
> can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at
> all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE
> them. The rivalry is intense.
>
> :^o *Is shocked*
> It seems comparable to the lowest of the football fan f***wits.
> Is it really that bad?
> Heh, okay, I know I already asked that, it jst really really
> surprises me :^)
Yep it is, it comes from generations of baseball fans passing the hatred on and with each generation the hatred becomes more and more. I think it started when Babe Ruth was traded and 'the curse of the great Bambino' started. Ever since then the two teams have always been in competition. If all you're told when your young is to hate a certain something then eventually it starts to sink into the mind and they see the Sox (and vice versa) as the enemy and not just another team rolling into town.
Haven't seen any acts of violence because of it though, but i've been at games where a Sox fan has been in the middle of the Yankee crowd and just been heckled for the whole game.
(Geez i got to America for one week and come back and hijack a political topic and start talking about Baseball :-D)
Arnie for president..
Oh wait..
:^)
Oh wait..
:^)
lalakersrule wrote:
> Hehe yea i know i'm over-reacting but still, if he can lie about
> something as trivial as that then what else can he lie about?
Seems like a valid point. I made a post about the significance of the 'little lies' a while back myself.
> Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i
> can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at
> all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE
> them. The rivalry is intense.
:^o *Is shocked*
It seems comparable to the lowest of the football fan f***wits.
Is it really that bad?
Heh, okay, I know I already asked that, it jst really really surprises me :^)
> Hehe yea i know i'm over-reacting but still, if he can lie about
> something as trivial as that then what else can he lie about?
Seems like a valid point. I made a post about the significance of the 'little lies' a while back myself.
> Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i
> can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at
> all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE
> them. The rivalry is intense.
:^o *Is shocked*
It seems comparable to the lowest of the football fan f***wits.
Is it really that bad?
Heh, okay, I know I already asked that, it jst really really surprises me :^)
Michael Moore for president, now that would be interesting :-D
Grix Thraves wrote:
> How abouts we ignore them all and put an -extreme- left wing bloke in
> instead? That'd be funny.
Castro for President!
That'd kick ass :^D
> How abouts we ignore them all and put an -extreme- left wing bloke in
> instead? That'd be funny.
Castro for President!
That'd kick ass :^D
Mumbai Duck wrote:
> Fair enough. Though I'd have thought it'd be more likely he was
> stretching the truth rather than lying - perhaps he always considered
> himself a fan, just not enough of a fan to bother going to the
> games.
> Then found himself stretching the extent of his loyalty to show a
> human side.
Hehe yea i know i'm over-reacting but still, if he can lie about something as trivial as that then what else can he lie about?
> Could have shot himself in the foot though because i would have
> thought the New York vote would be more important then the Boston
> one
>
> Do you think it'd lose him votes though?
Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE them. The rivalry is intense.
> I'd have thought it'd endear him to most/many baseball fans, the ones
> from 'his' team the most, but also the other teams, following the
> sport provides something in common with people, regardless of the
> team.
Thought about it a little more and it may help him actually. Most people don't like the Yankees more than any other team because they basically bought all the all-star players, they're the Chelsea of the baseball world. But then the Red Sox aren't exactly everyone's favourite second team. I just see it as a pathetic publicity stunt to make him seem human and that he's just as regular as the next guy. That's how they see it in Seattle anyway it seems. They'd prefer it if he concentrated more on the issues then trying to seem like everyone's pal
> Fair enough. Though I'd have thought it'd be more likely he was
> stretching the truth rather than lying - perhaps he always considered
> himself a fan, just not enough of a fan to bother going to the
> games.
> Then found himself stretching the extent of his loyalty to show a
> human side.
Hehe yea i know i'm over-reacting but still, if he can lie about something as trivial as that then what else can he lie about?
> Could have shot himself in the foot though because i would have
> thought the New York vote would be more important then the Boston
> one
>
> Do you think it'd lose him votes though?
Will definitly in New York, i've lived in Brooklyn for a year and i can tell you that his remarks would not have gone down well there at all. Most New Yorkers HATE the Red Sox, not just dislike, but HATE them. The rivalry is intense.
> I'd have thought it'd endear him to most/many baseball fans, the ones
> from 'his' team the most, but also the other teams, following the
> sport provides something in common with people, regardless of the
> team.
Thought about it a little more and it may help him actually. Most people don't like the Yankees more than any other team because they basically bought all the all-star players, they're the Chelsea of the baseball world. But then the Red Sox aren't exactly everyone's favourite second team. I just see it as a pathetic publicity stunt to make him seem human and that he's just as regular as the next guy. That's how they see it in Seattle anyway it seems. They'd prefer it if he concentrated more on the issues then trying to seem like everyone's pal
I vote Lincoln. But as he's not running (the fact that he's dead matters not), I'll vote Kerry instead.
How abouts we ignore them all and put an -extreme- left wing bloke in instead? That'd be funny.
How abouts we ignore them all and put an -extreme- left wing bloke in instead? That'd be funny.
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