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Thu 15/07/04 at 17:33
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Come on, wrestling is like watching a soap opera with people fighting.

I hate to say this to you but eat this

WRESTLING IS FAKE
WRESTLING IS RUBISH

they dont even really hit each other and its all scripted. if i were you i would watch some proper tv, not this 'sport-entertainment' trash
Mon 19/07/04 at 16:35
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*clicks ignore* Bye bye Caz
Mon 19/07/04 at 15:22
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"One Man Landslide"
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†hë_Çøñg_Mðñ wrote:
> Jim, don't let it get to you, we get a hundred of these idiots every
> year and it usually transpires they're into something REALLY lame,
> like Pokémon, or flower arranging...

I know, Cong Man, I know. He's just offered himself as a sacrifice to us, and I'd like to snare one of these guys, if only to sort out my arguments in future should I have the misfortune to come face to face with one of them.
Mon 19/07/04 at 14:35
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Jim, don't let it get to you, we get a hundred of these idiots every year and it usually transpires they're into something REALLY lame, like Pokémon, or flower arranging...
Mon 19/07/04 at 14:30
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caz37 wrote:
> Ok l'll put my arguments to you
>
> 1. Wrestling is all scripted and too predictable, like eastenders

All scripted? Not quite. Too predictable? Only if it's done badly.

> 2. over half of the moves are really rubbish but a handful ore pretty
> cool

So you're the new authority on what's 'cool' and what's not? Nice to know.

> 3. The classic argument, IT'S FAKE

Absolute guff, as other guys here have shown.

> 4. The wrestlers themselves generally suck

Yes. Obviously. Because you know enough of them personally to make such a judgement, don't you?

>
> ALTHOUGH
> I do like the wrestling games like smackdown i like because they are
> a laugh. I did used to like wrestling When it was the WWF, WWE is
> alot worse

Well, I don't know how to put this to you... but... strap yourself in for this one... THEY'RE THE SAME. THE NAME CHANGED - THAT'S IT. Do you get confused when female family members of yours get married and change names as well?

Now that you've recovered from the shock involved, now go on to address our concerns. We'll not concentrate on your mental ability (or astounding lack thereof), out of kindness.

1. How are the fights in the Matrix less fake than wrestling?

2. How is EVERYTHING in wrestling scripted (and I mean literally everything, as that is what you have said)?

3. When did you become the main authority on what's 'cool' and what's not? Don't forget, you didn't put that down as opinion, you put it as fact.

4. Which wrestlers do you know personally? And what are they like? Because you must know a fair few in order to make such a blanket statement as "they generally suck".

5. And finally, explain to me EXACTLY how wrestling is 'fake'. Not pre-determined, but fake.

And don't say "Oh, I answered these before" before you haven't.

>
> so that as they say is that

Not by a long shot, you snivelling fool. If that's the very best you can muster, do everyone a favour and clear off. For your sake as much as ours'.
Mon 19/07/04 at 14:30
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I'll just debate the scripted bit. Not all matches are fully scripted, in fact a good wrestler can call most of the match move by move on the fly. In fact this is something the WWE is trying to encourage by switching opponents at house shows without telling the wrestlers inolved...
Mon 19/07/04 at 14:12
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Okay, I'll humour you for now.

caz37 wrote:
> Ok l'll put my arguments to you
>
> 1. Wrestling is all scripted and too predictable, like eastenders

Scripted, to an extent. But, if something goes wrong in the ring (Benoit hurting his neck, Nash tearing a quad) then they have to improvise. I don't see any improvising in Eastenders. Predictable, hardly. Sure, you can predict to a certain degree but I dare you to predict the winners and endings of every match and you'll never be able to do it.

As for your Eastenders remark, I can't see how that factors into things. The main focus of a wrestling show is the wrestling. Eastenders don't exactly risk the well being of their actors, do they?

> 2. over half of the moves are really rubbish but a handful ore pretty
> cool

Not really an argument. More of a personal opinion. The fact that you think a few moves are cool kind of negates this point. They use a lot more rest holds, which isn't to everyones taste but that's all down to the WWE trying to protect the wrestlers a bit more.

> 3. The classic argument, IT'S FAKE

I've never understood this. Fake? If something is fake, it's either edited in some way or they don't actually do anything dangerous. The fact is, they land on their backs, their fronts, they bleed, they feel the impact and the wrestling industry is a hard life. When they aren't wrestling, they are travelling to their next venue with barely any time to recover from injuries. Wrestlers always have niggling injuries and they work through these injuries. The amount of neck surgeries in recent times just underlines what they put their bodies through.

> 4. The wrestlers themselves generally suck

So, you know all the wrestlers personally, do you? How do you know they suck unless you get to know them? Please, you don't do yourself any favours here.

> so that as they say is that

Nope, not quite. I would like you to answer the questions that the others have raised, if you could see past the evasiveness that seems to let you see what you want to see.

I've been polite enough to debate your 'arguments', now do the same for ours.
Mon 19/07/04 at 13:58
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caz37 wrote:

> 1. Wrestling is all scripted and too predictable, like eastenders

true.

> 2. over half of the moves are really rubbish but a handful ore pretty
> cool

again, true.
i have to say i find a lot of "mat" moves and holds failry boring, although to point of these is so the wrestlers can let each other know which spots are coming next, so they're kinda needed.

> 3. The classic argument, IT'S FAKE

*slap*
no, no, NO!
do you even READ the other posts??

> 4. The wrestlers themselves generally suck

not true.
there just aren't that many in WWE.
check out Ultimo Dragon, A.J Styles, Paul London, Sabu, Raven, Shane Helms (ok, so he IS in wwe, but he's had loads better matches beforehand)
>
> I did used to like wrestling When it was the WWF, WWE is
> alot worse

.... how do you not fall down more often???
>
> so that as they say is that

they do? i had a feeling it wasn't going to be worth waiting for...
Mon 19/07/04 at 12:51
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caz37 wrote:
> Ok l'll put my arguments to you

No, you've already said your arguments. What you've failed to do is reply to the questions we've asked you. Such as How are the fights in Matrix more real than those in wrestling?
Mon 19/07/04 at 12:06
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Ok l'll put my arguments to you

1. Wrestling is all scripted and too predictable, like eastenders
2. over half of the moves are really rubbish but a handful ore pretty cool
3. The classic argument, IT'S FAKE
4. The wrestlers themselves generally suck

ALTHOUGH
I do like the wrestling games like smackdown i like because they are a laugh. I did used to like wrestling When it was the WWF, WWE is alot worse

so that as they say is that
Mon 19/07/04 at 12:04
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Is this Forest Fan mk II or something? He's got the side stepping of questions that pee all over his chips down to a fine art.

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