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Sun 20/06/04 at 01:46
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Oh the weary cycle of the musical industry.
It goes round and around every few years to a grindingly predictable fashion.
Rock is fashionable! Everybody wears big shorts and stupid keychains
Rock is dead!
Pop is fashionable! Everybody ironically enjoys Abba & Donna Summer
Pop is dead!
Teeny Band is fashionable! 4-5 dancing bears with 5yr old fans
Teeny Band is dead!
But the latest one is yet another spoke in the wheel, just dressed up a little better than usual.

Everybody is pretty much sick of pre-fabricated bands of people that dance and grin inanely to a backing track and perform energetic routines and are non-threatening and everybody loves 'em etc etc mumblemumblemumble
Right?
So what's the new "thing" that's just as carefully orchestrated as all the rest?
This "earnest young woman with piano/band that isn't plastic".
Be it Norah Jones/Katie Meluhah (sp?)/Jamie Callum. The industry realises that plastic pop isn't selling, and one or two "real" musicians breakthrough with a genuinely good album.
Case in point - Norah Jones. Hell, if you're the daughter of Ravi Shankar then chances are you inherited some talent and integrity.
Noticing these "real" artists sell well to an adult market (fickle and untrustworthy of label tactics), suddenly we have an influx of "real" artists. Look at the albums charts and what's being released.
Suddenly the labels are all "Hey, this person is genuine and writes her own stuff and, like, feels pain and things" and we're deluged with a production line of identikit "soulful" singers, plucked from musical academies the land over and carefully designed to appear non-designed.

Don't fall for it. If you like somebody, hurrah, go and enjoy.
But don't make the mistake of thinking suddenly there's been a shift in the mentality of a business that latches onto the latest new-thing and kills it by ramming it down your throat.

It's just a phase and within 6 months, 95% of these earnest "real" singers will be back doing dance routines and singing mindless ditties penned in Sweden for 5yr olds to buy.
It's inevitable, it's the industry.
It's just marketing and draining whatever may be a small breakthrough by one or two people by pumping their own versions into your brain.
Doubt that?
Really?
Happened with rock. The long-players are still going, have been for years.
Pantera, Helmet, Biohazard, Agnostic Front, Metallica (they used to matter but at least are still going...but c'mon, what kind of comment is it when a bass-player says you suck and leaves??), and countless others that will be around for ages.
Where then, are the Papa Roaches and the Sum41s and the other "nu-metal" lunkheads that were assembled in a casting room and piped into your brain?

Exactly.
It's just a phase
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:58
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Goatboy wrote:
> I'm currently enjoying Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan,

what the hell is that? bangra?

> The Who,

*nods*

> Aimee Mann,
> Tom Waits,

*look of puzzlement*

> Fudge Tunnel & Sepultura

heard of both of those, sepultura are a death metal god bothering band if I remember correctly


meh
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:58
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"gsybe you!"
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Bah. At The Drive in were class, Mars Volta are just sublime.

Soulfly...seen a little of them about. Not so much my type of stuff. Been listening to Cursive, Glassjaw, Elliott and Oscar Peterson recently.

Nice mix of rock, emo, jazz and screaming.
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:57
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ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
the czech/holland game tonight made my day.
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Did they all commit ritual suicide shortly before kick-off when they realised the sum achievement, the crowning glory of their lives was going to be kicking a football around for 90 mins?
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:56
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Nah, they used to be another band I didn't like and the singer keeps talking about how much drugs they have done/do. It doesn't work for me and just comes off as designer indifference.

I'm currently enjoying Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, The Who, Aimee Mann, Tom Waits, Fudge Tunnel & Sepultura (before Max left and took his bestial roar with him to make Soulfly one of the best rock outfits around.)
Speaking of Soulfly, I remember going to see them at The Astoria years back. They were absolutely astonishing live, just a wall of energy and passion.
Supported by Limp Bizkit, who I'd never heard of and had "Faith" which was reasonably amusing.
Fast Forward to now, Soulfly release their 5th (I think) album to no notice, and the entire world knows the blank-eyed cypher that is Fred Durst.
There's no justice
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:50
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"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
Back to music...

Just get De-Loused In The Comatorium - Mars Volta.

That's where music can go.
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:49
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I'm too drunk to appreciate controversy.

the czech/holland game tonight made my day.

pure class.
Sun 20/06/04 at 01:46
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Oh the weary cycle of the musical industry.
It goes round and around every few years to a grindingly predictable fashion.
Rock is fashionable! Everybody wears big shorts and stupid keychains
Rock is dead!
Pop is fashionable! Everybody ironically enjoys Abba & Donna Summer
Pop is dead!
Teeny Band is fashionable! 4-5 dancing bears with 5yr old fans
Teeny Band is dead!
But the latest one is yet another spoke in the wheel, just dressed up a little better than usual.

Everybody is pretty much sick of pre-fabricated bands of people that dance and grin inanely to a backing track and perform energetic routines and are non-threatening and everybody loves 'em etc etc mumblemumblemumble
Right?
So what's the new "thing" that's just as carefully orchestrated as all the rest?
This "earnest young woman with piano/band that isn't plastic".
Be it Norah Jones/Katie Meluhah (sp?)/Jamie Callum. The industry realises that plastic pop isn't selling, and one or two "real" musicians breakthrough with a genuinely good album.
Case in point - Norah Jones. Hell, if you're the daughter of Ravi Shankar then chances are you inherited some talent and integrity.
Noticing these "real" artists sell well to an adult market (fickle and untrustworthy of label tactics), suddenly we have an influx of "real" artists. Look at the albums charts and what's being released.
Suddenly the labels are all "Hey, this person is genuine and writes her own stuff and, like, feels pain and things" and we're deluged with a production line of identikit "soulful" singers, plucked from musical academies the land over and carefully designed to appear non-designed.

Don't fall for it. If you like somebody, hurrah, go and enjoy.
But don't make the mistake of thinking suddenly there's been a shift in the mentality of a business that latches onto the latest new-thing and kills it by ramming it down your throat.

It's just a phase and within 6 months, 95% of these earnest "real" singers will be back doing dance routines and singing mindless ditties penned in Sweden for 5yr olds to buy.
It's inevitable, it's the industry.
It's just marketing and draining whatever may be a small breakthrough by one or two people by pumping their own versions into your brain.
Doubt that?
Really?
Happened with rock. The long-players are still going, have been for years.
Pantera, Helmet, Biohazard, Agnostic Front, Metallica (they used to matter but at least are still going...but c'mon, what kind of comment is it when a bass-player says you suck and leaves??), and countless others that will be around for ages.
Where then, are the Papa Roaches and the Sum41s and the other "nu-metal" lunkheads that were assembled in a casting room and piped into your brain?

Exactly.
It's just a phase

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