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"The new plastic marketed music trend"

Oh the weary cycle of the musical industry.
It goes round and around every few years to a grindingly predictable fashion.
Rock is fashionable! Everybody wears big shorts and stupid keychains
Rock is dead!
Pop is fashionable! Everybody ironically enjoys Abba & Donna Summer
Pop is dead!
Teeny Band is fashionable! 4-5 dancing bears with 5yr old fans
Teeny Band is dead!
But the latest one is yet another spoke in the wheel, just dressed up a little better than usual.

Everybody is pretty much sick of pre-fabricated bands of people that dance and grin inanely to a backing track and perform energetic routines and are non-threatening and everybody loves 'em etc etc mumblemumblemumble
Right?
So what's the new "thing" that's just as carefully orchestrated as all the rest?
This "earnest young woman with piano/band that isn't plastic".
Be it Norah Jones/Katie Meluhah (sp?)/Jamie Callum. The industry realises that plastic pop isn't selling, and one or two "real" musicians breakthrough with a genuinely good album.
Case in point - Norah Jones. Hell, if you're the daughter of Ravi Shankar then chances are you inherited some talent and integrity.
Noticing these "real" artists sell well to an adult market (fickle and untrustworthy of label tactics), suddenly we have an influx of "real" artists. Look at the albums charts and what's being released.
Suddenly the labels are all "Hey, this person is genuine and writes her own stuff and, like, feels pain and things" and we're deluged with a production line of identikit "soulful" singers, plucked from musical academies the land over and carefully designed to appear non-designed.

Don't fall for it. If you like somebody, hurrah, go and enjoy.
But don't make the mistake of thinking suddenly there's been a shift in the mentality of a business that latches onto the latest new-thing and kills it by ramming it down your throat.

It's just a phase and within 6 months, 95% of these earnest "real" singers will be back doing dance routines and singing mindless ditties penned in Sweden for 5yr olds to buy.
It's inevitable, it's the industry.
It's just marketing and draining whatever may be a small breakthrough by one or two people by pumping their own versions into your brain.
Doubt that?
Really?
Happened with rock. The long-players are still going, have been for years.
Pantera, Helmet, Biohazard, Agnostic Front, Metallica (they used to matter but at least are still going...but c'mon, what kind of comment is it when a bass-player says you suck and leaves??), and countless others that will be around for ages.
Where then, are the Papa Roaches and the Sum41s and the other "nu-metal" lunkheads that were assembled in a casting room and piped into your brain?

Exactly.
It's just a phase

Goatboy wrote:
> Papa Roach hardcore punk? Sure they are, that's why they had videos
> on eMpTyV. I'm not sure what you think punk is (here's a clue, Green
> Day are NOT) but I recommend you check out bands like The UK Subs,
> The Exploited, The Damned, Black Flag, Flipper etc to see what punk
> is. Punk isn't having expensive videos and merchandising and freshly
> scrubbed middle-class suburb teens wailing about how tough life is
> when your parents don't understand you.


To be fair, I can hear hardcore influence in many nu-metal bands... because frankly a lot of nu-metal tried to take the hard-riffage elements of metal, but take out the solo-ing that broke it up and increase the aggression level... I can kinda see what Der Nazi was saying, but I would no way class Papa Roach as hardcore... I can see some hardcore influence, but at the end of the day they were a whiny nu-metal band as far as I'm concerned...

Oh, and on the Green Day point... I'd say they are a POP-punk band... I mean if you credit the Ramones as one of the first punk bands (as most people do...) then musically Green Day definitely have punk influences... but no, they're not a straight up punk band.

man was I drunk last night, and goatboy was the recipient of my none-sensical ramblings.

just watched the sum of all fears - great film!

That wasn't aimed at you, My bad, just the meer mention of BCR sparked a memory of them, so I slapped it in the reply.

gamesfreak wrote:
> Cyclone wrote:
> Box Car Racer.
>
> Box Car Racer lasted like two songs then left.
>
>


And......?

I was saying they are not emo....

Modern punk is just poor. I can't stand it. Sure, it helped ween my musical tastes of today, but I can't stand it nowadays.

Goatboy wrote:
> I recommend you check out bands like The UK Subs,
> The Exploited, The Damned, Black Flag, Flipper etc to see what punk
> is.

Sex Pistols and The Clash are other notable punk bands.

Cyclone wrote:
> Box Car Racer.

Box Car Racer lasted like two songs then left.

Anyway, As per usual Goatboy makes a post that is correct, and amusing at the same time.

It's inevitable that the Fast Food Rockers will be in season again, to market MacDonalds new "salad!!221!! helth" range.

I can imagine the song already. *shudders*

Bah, and all that scr-emo, like FFAF and Thrice (Thrice being the only decent band in that genre) are crap. Crap crap crap.

Bands like Cursive and Elliott - they are proper good.

I understand, but you've got to know some of the peopl I know from school. They think that listening to Funeral for a Friend classifies them to be 'troubled'.

Some kids just don't know how to deal with hormones.

Mattributé wrote:
> I'm okay with emo, I'm just not okay with the people that listen to
> emo, who mostly think they're troubled teens.
>
> Commies.

Grrrr even more.

You just don't understand!

*preens*