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Oh the weary cycle of the musical industry.
It goes round and around every few years to a grindingly predictable fashion.
Rock is fashionable! Everybody wears big shorts and stupid keychains
Rock is dead!
Pop is fashionable! Everybody ironically enjoys Abba & Donna Summer
Pop is dead!
Teeny Band is fashionable! 4-5 dancing bears with 5yr old fans
Teeny Band is dead!
But the latest one is yet another spoke in the wheel, just dressed up a little better than usual.
Everybody is pretty much sick of pre-fabricated bands of people that dance and grin inanely to a backing track and perform energetic routines and are non-threatening and everybody loves 'em etc etc mumblemumblemumble
Right?
So what's the new "thing" that's just as carefully orchestrated as all the rest?
This "earnest young woman with piano/band that isn't plastic".
Be it Norah Jones/Katie Meluhah (sp?)/Jamie Callum. The industry realises that plastic pop isn't selling, and one or two "real" musicians breakthrough with a genuinely good album.
Case in point - Norah Jones. Hell, if you're the daughter of Ravi Shankar then chances are you inherited some talent and integrity.
Noticing these "real" artists sell well to an adult market (fickle and untrustworthy of label tactics), suddenly we have an influx of "real" artists. Look at the albums charts and what's being released.
Suddenly the labels are all "Hey, this person is genuine and writes her own stuff and, like, feels pain and things" and we're deluged with a production line of identikit "soulful" singers, plucked from musical academies the land over and carefully designed to appear non-designed.
Don't fall for it. If you like somebody, hurrah, go and enjoy.
But don't make the mistake of thinking suddenly there's been a shift in the mentality of a business that latches onto the latest new-thing and kills it by ramming it down your throat.
It's just a phase and within 6 months, 95% of these earnest "real" singers will be back doing dance routines and singing mindless ditties penned in Sweden for 5yr olds to buy.
It's inevitable, it's the industry.
It's just marketing and draining whatever may be a small breakthrough by one or two people by pumping their own versions into your brain.
Doubt that?
Really?
Happened with rock. The long-players are still going, have been for years.
Pantera, Helmet, Biohazard, Agnostic Front, Metallica (they used to matter but at least are still going...but c'mon, what kind of comment is it when a bass-player says you suck and leaves??), and countless others that will be around for ages.
Where then, are the Papa Roaches and the Sum41s and the other "nu-metal" lunkheads that were assembled in a casting room and piped into your brain?
Exactly.
It's just a phase
It goes round and around every few years to a grindingly predictable fashion.
Rock is fashionable! Everybody wears big shorts and stupid keychains
Rock is dead!
Pop is fashionable! Everybody ironically enjoys Abba & Donna Summer
Pop is dead!
Teeny Band is fashionable! 4-5 dancing bears with 5yr old fans
Teeny Band is dead!
But the latest one is yet another spoke in the wheel, just dressed up a little better than usual.
Everybody is pretty much sick of pre-fabricated bands of people that dance and grin inanely to a backing track and perform energetic routines and are non-threatening and everybody loves 'em etc etc mumblemumblemumble
Right?
So what's the new "thing" that's just as carefully orchestrated as all the rest?
This "earnest young woman with piano/band that isn't plastic".
Be it Norah Jones/Katie Meluhah (sp?)/Jamie Callum. The industry realises that plastic pop isn't selling, and one or two "real" musicians breakthrough with a genuinely good album.
Case in point - Norah Jones. Hell, if you're the daughter of Ravi Shankar then chances are you inherited some talent and integrity.
Noticing these "real" artists sell well to an adult market (fickle and untrustworthy of label tactics), suddenly we have an influx of "real" artists. Look at the albums charts and what's being released.
Suddenly the labels are all "Hey, this person is genuine and writes her own stuff and, like, feels pain and things" and we're deluged with a production line of identikit "soulful" singers, plucked from musical academies the land over and carefully designed to appear non-designed.
Don't fall for it. If you like somebody, hurrah, go and enjoy.
But don't make the mistake of thinking suddenly there's been a shift in the mentality of a business that latches onto the latest new-thing and kills it by ramming it down your throat.
It's just a phase and within 6 months, 95% of these earnest "real" singers will be back doing dance routines and singing mindless ditties penned in Sweden for 5yr olds to buy.
It's inevitable, it's the industry.
It's just marketing and draining whatever may be a small breakthrough by one or two people by pumping their own versions into your brain.
Doubt that?
Really?
Happened with rock. The long-players are still going, have been for years.
Pantera, Helmet, Biohazard, Agnostic Front, Metallica (they used to matter but at least are still going...but c'mon, what kind of comment is it when a bass-player says you suck and leaves??), and countless others that will be around for ages.
Where then, are the Papa Roaches and the Sum41s and the other "nu-metal" lunkheads that were assembled in a casting room and piped into your brain?
Exactly.
It's just a phase
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Jamie Callum plays piano like a Thunderbird.
I'm okay with emo, I'm just not okay with the people that listen to emo, who mostly think they're troubled teens.
Commies.
Commies.
Emo is not Box Car Racer.
Grrrr.
Grrrr.
pira-metal?
mikelar wrote:
> haha, I love all these little crap sub-genres that apparently exist.
and yet if they didn't you'd probbaly complain how saturated a single genre was becoming.
>
> What the hell is melodic hardcore?
it's exactly what is says, hardcore sounding instrumentals but not just some skinhead screaming over the top. it's a really good style of music, quite challenging and when done properly, it sounds wonderful
> what is emo-jazz?
you've got me there, although it sounds dull ;)
> Somebody at Uni
> said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is
> Scr-emo.
pfffft, never heard of that one. i'm guessing "Box Car Racer.. with a skinhead screaming over the top" :)
> WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a
> bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
only until it catches on.
i stand by my response to the question of "what does your band sound like?".. simple. heavy as hell, singing about pirates. :)
> haha, I love all these little crap sub-genres that apparently exist.
and yet if they didn't you'd probbaly complain how saturated a single genre was becoming.
>
> What the hell is melodic hardcore?
it's exactly what is says, hardcore sounding instrumentals but not just some skinhead screaming over the top. it's a really good style of music, quite challenging and when done properly, it sounds wonderful
> what is emo-jazz?
you've got me there, although it sounds dull ;)
> Somebody at Uni
> said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is
> Scr-emo.
pfffft, never heard of that one. i'm guessing "Box Car Racer.. with a skinhead screaming over the top" :)
> WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a
> bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
only until it catches on.
i stand by my response to the question of "what does your band sound like?".. simple. heavy as hell, singing about pirates. :)
Bob_The_Moose wrote:
> Because there are such well defined lines between genres, it makes it
> so unlikely that a band may be in more than one genre...
And why do they need to be so well defined? So I can go into a shop and ask for Electro-waltz-blues only to find out there's only one band in that genre anyway?
It's BS.
> Because there are such well defined lines between genres, it makes it
> so unlikely that a band may be in more than one genre...
And why do they need to be so well defined? So I can go into a shop and ask for Electro-waltz-blues only to find out there's only one band in that genre anyway?
It's BS.
He's right, people get far too caught up in what other people think and like.
I couldn't care less what some 5 year old is buying.
I couldn't care less what some 5 year old is buying.
mikelar wrote:
> haha, I love all these little crap sub-genres that apparently exist.
>
> What the hell is melodic hardcore? what is emo-jazz? Somebody at Uni
> said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is
> Scr-emo. WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a
> bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
Because there are such well defined lines between genres, it makes it so unlikely that a band may be in more than one genre...
> haha, I love all these little crap sub-genres that apparently exist.
>
> What the hell is melodic hardcore? what is emo-jazz? Somebody at Uni
> said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is
> Scr-emo. WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a
> bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
Because there are such well defined lines between genres, it makes it so unlikely that a band may be in more than one genre...
Forget genres, forget types of music and all that, just enjoy the music you like, and abuse the heathens that don't.
haha, I love all these little crap sub-genres that apparently exist.
What the hell is melodic hardcore? what is emo-jazz? Somebody at Uni said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is Scr-emo. WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
What the hell is melodic hardcore? what is emo-jazz? Somebody at Uni said to me he's in a band and the type off music they play is Scr-emo. WHAT THE HELL? I think bands do this to give themselves a bit of identity. The truth being it makes them sound like IDIOTS.
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