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"A local school girl was kidnapped in Ilford and told to accept Christianity at knife point.
A Christian militant abducted a local Muslim teenager on her way to school and slashed her repeatedly with a blade telling her to recite the trinity. The militant cut a crucifix into the girls hand and repeatedly slashed her upper arms and sides during the kidnapping. She was told he would not let her go until she accepted Christianity.
The brave girl, a pupil at Ursuline High School in Ilford, was left traumatised by the attack and told the East London Muslim that although she was in hysterics afterwards, she was not going to hide in her room.
The man repeatedly said he was going to show her that "Christianity is the right religion" and then slashed her over and over again.
"He said he took me because all Muslim girls are oppressed".
After a struggle in Brisbane Road at 8.30am, in which a blade was put on her throat, the girl was forced into a car and driven to Romford in a royal blue M-plate Austin Montego where her abductor cut a crucifix into the back of her hand while trying to force her to recite the trinity.
The brave girl said, "I didnt tell him anything or recite the words."
The man finally dropped the girl off in Morland Road in the hope that her school, Ursuline High, would have better luck in getting her to become Christian.
The car had an "I love Jesus" bumper sticker and a wooden cross hanging on the rear view mirror.
The man was white, aged 25-30, about 5ft 9in, with brown hair and a mole to the left of his chin.
Anyone with information should contact Detective Con Rowley on 020---- ----(Number edited - don't want prank calls to the police now, do we?)
Erm, discuss.
"A local school girl was kidnapped in Ilford and told to accept Christianity at knife point.
A Christian militant abducted a local Muslim teenager on her way to school and slashed her repeatedly with a blade telling her to recite the trinity. The militant cut a crucifix into the girls hand and repeatedly slashed her upper arms and sides during the kidnapping. She was told he would not let her go until she accepted Christianity.
The brave girl, a pupil at Ursuline High School in Ilford, was left traumatised by the attack and told the East London Muslim that although she was in hysterics afterwards, she was not going to hide in her room.
The man repeatedly said he was going to show her that "Christianity is the right religion" and then slashed her over and over again.
"He said he took me because all Muslim girls are oppressed".
After a struggle in Brisbane Road at 8.30am, in which a blade was put on her throat, the girl was forced into a car and driven to Romford in a royal blue M-plate Austin Montego where her abductor cut a crucifix into the back of her hand while trying to force her to recite the trinity.
The brave girl said, "I didnt tell him anything or recite the words."
The man finally dropped the girl off in Morland Road in the hope that her school, Ursuline High, would have better luck in getting her to become Christian.
The car had an "I love Jesus" bumper sticker and a wooden cross hanging on the rear view mirror.
The man was white, aged 25-30, about 5ft 9in, with brown hair and a mole to the left of his chin.
Anyone with information should contact Detective Con Rowley on 020---- ----(Number edited - don't want prank calls to the police now, do we?)
Erm, discuss.
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Forest Fan wrote:
> I follow a belief , a faith , but not a religion.
If you go to dictionary.com and look up the word 'Faith' you get:
5. The body of dogma of a religion
And The Popular Oxford Dictionary of Common English, page 306 describes it as:
"Unquestioning confidence; strong belief, esp. in religious doctrines."
See, I can quote books too.
> I follow a belief , a faith , but not a religion.
If you go to dictionary.com and look up the word 'Faith' you get:
5. The body of dogma of a religion
And The Popular Oxford Dictionary of Common English, page 306 describes it as:
"Unquestioning confidence; strong belief, esp. in religious doctrines."
See, I can quote books too.
Strafio wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> The whole basis for Catholism is vastly different. They effectively
> worship Mary and a redeemer,
>
> Not really. All the prayers towards her just ask her to pray for
> us...
> I mean she has an important place in the church, but no one's
> pretending that she's Jesus...
Mary has no place in the church. There are a lot of people in the Bible I admire, Moses, John The Baptist and John the Apostle. But I don't WORSHIP THEM! And I wouldn't ask them to pray for me, they're in Heaven now anyway. All my prayers are directed to Jesus, the only person who can direct your prayers to God. When you pray to Jesus, He prays to God, Mary can't help you!
>
> when there is only one redeemer in
> Christ Jesus. Catholism is completely different and any Catholic or
> Protestant will tell you this.
>
> It's a variation, but in the end it's Christianity, their
> way.
>
> Why are you being such a control freak over how people should believe
> in God?
I haven't got a problem with variations of Christian beliefs, but I will add the Catholics profess to read the same Bible as Protestants, yet still insist on un-biblical practises like praying to Mary!
> Forest Fan wrote:
> The whole basis for Catholism is vastly different. They effectively
> worship Mary and a redeemer,
>
> Not really. All the prayers towards her just ask her to pray for
> us...
> I mean she has an important place in the church, but no one's
> pretending that she's Jesus...
Mary has no place in the church. There are a lot of people in the Bible I admire, Moses, John The Baptist and John the Apostle. But I don't WORSHIP THEM! And I wouldn't ask them to pray for me, they're in Heaven now anyway. All my prayers are directed to Jesus, the only person who can direct your prayers to God. When you pray to Jesus, He prays to God, Mary can't help you!
>
> when there is only one redeemer in
> Christ Jesus. Catholism is completely different and any Catholic or
> Protestant will tell you this.
>
> It's a variation, but in the end it's Christianity, their
> way.
>
> Why are you being such a control freak over how people should believe
> in God?
I haven't got a problem with variations of Christian beliefs, but I will add the Catholics profess to read the same Bible as Protestants, yet still insist on un-biblical practises like praying to Mary!
Geffdof wrote:
> christianity is a religion, a religion is just a name given to it so
> we all know what where talking about. if we just called it "the
> thingy" it would be even more confusing than it already is. and
> being a christian you do have to do something. you have to accept
> that jesus is your saviour etc. you only do that once but its still
> soething you have to do to start
Religion all stems from the Tower of Babel, when man tried to reach up to God, when God always reaches down to man. God reached down to give Moses the ten commandments and give us Jesus the Messiah.
> christianity is a religion, a religion is just a name given to it so
> we all know what where talking about. if we just called it "the
> thingy" it would be even more confusing than it already is. and
> being a christian you do have to do something. you have to accept
> that jesus is your saviour etc. you only do that once but its still
> soething you have to do to start
Religion all stems from the Tower of Babel, when man tried to reach up to God, when God always reaches down to man. God reached down to give Moses the ten commandments and give us Jesus the Messiah.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
>
> No, I don't think so.
He answered back four times.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
>
> No, I don't think so.
He answered back four times.
Edgy wrote:
> Geffdof wrote:
> People like this make me sick. They give a bad name to religion.
>
> Forest Fan has told us on many occasions he is against All
> religions, despite being part of a religious group with religious
> beliefs.
>
> He claims it isn't a religious belief as he isn't required to do
> anything. The fact he believes in something and that he is required
> to 'accept Jesus' contradicts that.
I simply have to believe in Jesus, who fufilled everything. "Religions" state that by following a set of rules and "good deeds", the follow can get into Heaven.
I follow a belief , a faith , but not a religion.
> Geffdof wrote:
> People like this make me sick. They give a bad name to religion.
>
> Forest Fan has told us on many occasions he is against All
> religions, despite being part of a religious group with religious
> beliefs.
>
> He claims it isn't a religious belief as he isn't required to do
> anything. The fact he believes in something and that he is required
> to 'accept Jesus' contradicts that.
I simply have to believe in Jesus, who fufilled everything. "Religions" state that by following a set of rules and "good deeds", the follow can get into Heaven.
I follow a belief , a faith , but not a religion.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan - What I'm saying is - for God to put his son on the
> Earth
> would not require a birth.
>
> Wouldn't, but in the same way, God doesn't need any
> missionaries in the world to do His Work, God could just appear in
> visions/dreams to all those that need saving. However God makes use
> of His followers and calls people to mission work, in a similar way,
> God could have just created Jesus, but rather decided to make use of
> His follower.
I've seen God.
:-P
> Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan - What I'm saying is - for God to put his son on the
> Earth
> would not require a birth.
>
> Wouldn't, but in the same way, God doesn't need any
> missionaries in the world to do His Work, God could just appear in
> visions/dreams to all those that need saving. However God makes use
> of His followers and calls people to mission work, in a similar way,
> God could have just created Jesus, but rather decided to make use of
> His follower.
I've seen God.
:-P
Forest Fan wrote:
> Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
No, I don't think so.
> Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
No, I don't think so.
Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan - What I'm saying is - for God to put his son on the Earth
> would not require a birth.
Wouldn't, but in the same way, God doesn't need any missionaries in the world to do His Work, God could just appear in visions/dreams to all those that need saving. However God makes use of His followers and calls people to mission work, in a similar way, God could have just created Jesus, but rather decided to make use of His follower.
> Forest Fan - What I'm saying is - for God to put his son on the Earth
> would not require a birth.
Wouldn't, but in the same way, God doesn't need any missionaries in the world to do His Work, God could just appear in visions/dreams to all those that need saving. However God makes use of His followers and calls people to mission work, in a similar way, God could have just created Jesus, but rather decided to make use of His follower.
Pandaemonium wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> We haven't discussed this before.
>
> I don't think anyone gives a damn.
Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> We haven't discussed this before.
>
> I don't think anyone gives a damn.
Except for Ju§t TinkŠ.
Forest Fan wrote:
> The whole basis for Catholism is vastly different. They effectively
> worship Mary and a redeemer,
Not really. All the prayers towards her just ask her to pray for us...
I mean she has an important place in the church, but no one's pretending that she's Jesus...
when there is only one redeemer in
> Christ Jesus. Catholism is completely different and any Catholic or
> Protestant will tell you this.
It's a variation, but in the end it's Christianity, their way.
Why are you being such a control freak over how people should believe in God?
> The whole basis for Catholism is vastly different. They effectively
> worship Mary and a redeemer,
Not really. All the prayers towards her just ask her to pray for us...
I mean she has an important place in the church, but no one's pretending that she's Jesus...
when there is only one redeemer in
> Christ Jesus. Catholism is completely different and any Catholic or
> Protestant will tell you this.
It's a variation, but in the end it's Christianity, their way.
Why are you being such a control freak over how people should believe in God?
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