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I want one of these... Jesus Action Figure with Walk on Water action!;)
I want one of these... Jesus Action Figure with Walk on Water action!;)
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thanks mate,
i just feel that clinging to an age of stoic tradition is going to do more harm that good.
ALL religion (and a lot of other laws and guidelines) could do with sitting down, looking at the world and adapting, not demanding that everyone else become as outdated.
i just feel that clinging to an age of stoic tradition is going to do more harm that good.
ALL religion (and a lot of other laws and guidelines) could do with sitting down, looking at the world and adapting, not demanding that everyone else become as outdated.
Very_Metal wrote:
> Loadsa stuff, then
> forwards is the way
(clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap) Well said.
> Loadsa stuff, then
> forwards is the way
(clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap) Well said.
Forest Fan wrote:
> the whole Bible is TRUE like I stated and all
> of it is LITERAL. By this I mean all the Bible means what it says,
> unless stated otherwise as just a portrayal of something in the
> Bible.
so jesus DID go to jeruselem and jesus WAS stoned?
so the big j.c was a weed-smoker then??
after all, that's a literal translation. clearly this is not what was being conveyed so it's a breakdown in language, which leaves this passage open to individual interpretation, which by association means that the rest of the bible is also open to individual interpretation.
so, here we have one passage that, due to the evolution of society and language, has many meanings in the present day, not a single hard and fast interpretation. again, by association, this must make a lot the bible outdated and without any really application in modern life.
forwards is the way
> the whole Bible is TRUE like I stated and all
> of it is LITERAL. By this I mean all the Bible means what it says,
> unless stated otherwise as just a portrayal of something in the
> Bible.
so jesus DID go to jeruselem and jesus WAS stoned?
so the big j.c was a weed-smoker then??
after all, that's a literal translation. clearly this is not what was being conveyed so it's a breakdown in language, which leaves this passage open to individual interpretation, which by association means that the rest of the bible is also open to individual interpretation.
so, here we have one passage that, due to the evolution of society and language, has many meanings in the present day, not a single hard and fast interpretation. again, by association, this must make a lot the bible outdated and without any really application in modern life.
forwards is the way
Pandaemonium wrote:
> loki wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
>
> Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
>
> I've had to run it through a few times. I'm still clueless. Its
> almost Dr Suess........
Pandaemonium and loki, the whole Bible is TRUE like I stated and all of it is LITERAL. By this I mean all the Bible means what it says, unless stated otherwise as just a portrayal of something in the Bible.
> loki wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
>
> Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
>
> I've had to run it through a few times. I'm still clueless. Its
> almost Dr Suess........
Pandaemonium and loki, the whole Bible is TRUE like I stated and all of it is LITERAL. By this I mean all the Bible means what it says, unless stated otherwise as just a portrayal of something in the Bible.
loki wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
>
> Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
I've had to run it through a few times. I'm still clueless. Its almost Dr Suess........
> Forest Fan wrote:
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
>
> Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
I've had to run it through a few times. I'm still clueless. Its almost Dr Suess........
Forest Fan wrote:
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
> It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is
> not.
Brilliant. Quote of the week surely :)
It's a SYMBOL of certain TRUTHS.
Ah - so they're literally symbolic, as opposed to symbolically literal?
loki wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> The Bible is not a book to be taken lightly, it hasn't just got a
> few
> morals in it, etc. This book is either the Word of God or the
> highest
> selling book, which has decieved man. I believe it is the Word of
> God.
>
> So going back to my last post, how do you know which bits are
> literally true and which bits are symbolic then?
It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is not. Like in the verse in Luke I shared just now, we see how some truths in the Bible, are SYMBOLIC of LITERAL TRUTHS.
Jesus LITERALLY died on the cross and communion is a time of SYMBOLIC reflection of this LITERAL TRUTH.
Sorry about all the captials letters, just wanted to emphasise certain words in this post.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> The Bible is not a book to be taken lightly, it hasn't just got a
> few
> morals in it, etc. This book is either the Word of God or the
> highest
> selling book, which has decieved man. I believe it is the Word of
> God.
>
> So going back to my last post, how do you know which bits are
> literally true and which bits are symbolic then?
It's all TRUE and is all LITERALLY TRUE too unless it obviously is not. Like in the verse in Luke I shared just now, we see how some truths in the Bible, are SYMBOLIC of LITERAL TRUTHS.
Jesus LITERALLY died on the cross and communion is a time of SYMBOLIC reflection of this LITERAL TRUTH.
Sorry about all the captials letters, just wanted to emphasise certain words in this post.
loki wrote:
> Some protestant sects do too though. That's the thing with the Bible,
> who's to say what should be taken literally?
The whole book is the literal Word of God.
>
> If Jesus said 'this is my body, this is my blood'(or whatever) it
> probably is meant to be symbolic. But, if you believe the Bible is
> fact then maybe not. But then maybe the all the stuff in Genesis and
> Revalations is supposed to be symbolic and metaphorical - ie. not
> what literally happened.
Do you know what two books of the Bible get ridiculed the most? Genesis and Revelation. These two are both literal books, however Genesis is an account of beginnings and Revelation a prophetic view of the end. Referring to the point about communion. When Jesus said this at what is commonly known as 'the last supper', His body didn't break as He broke bread and His blood wasn't shed as He drank wine. Therefore we know it is symbolic.
"And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." Luke 22:19
This verse in Luke tells us that He broke the bread and then compared it to His body, hence it was bread compared to the body of Christ.
>
> It's impossible to argue when people say that the Bible is true, but
> then argue amongst themselves over which bits are literally true and
> which are symbolically true.
The Bible is all true and literal, but like with the body and blood of Christ, when we are told it is symbolical, again I take it as truth, i.e. symobolical truth.
> Some protestant sects do too though. That's the thing with the Bible,
> who's to say what should be taken literally?
The whole book is the literal Word of God.
>
> If Jesus said 'this is my body, this is my blood'(or whatever) it
> probably is meant to be symbolic. But, if you believe the Bible is
> fact then maybe not. But then maybe the all the stuff in Genesis and
> Revalations is supposed to be symbolic and metaphorical - ie. not
> what literally happened.
Do you know what two books of the Bible get ridiculed the most? Genesis and Revelation. These two are both literal books, however Genesis is an account of beginnings and Revelation a prophetic view of the end. Referring to the point about communion. When Jesus said this at what is commonly known as 'the last supper', His body didn't break as He broke bread and His blood wasn't shed as He drank wine. Therefore we know it is symbolic.
"And when He had taken some bread and given thanks, He broke it and gave it to them, saying, "This is My body which is given for you; do this in remembrance of Me." Luke 22:19
This verse in Luke tells us that He broke the bread and then compared it to His body, hence it was bread compared to the body of Christ.
>
> It's impossible to argue when people say that the Bible is true, but
> then argue amongst themselves over which bits are literally true and
> which are symbolically true.
The Bible is all true and literal, but like with the body and blood of Christ, when we are told it is symbolical, again I take it as truth, i.e. symobolical truth.
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