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Well, it's out and I shall be buying it. "Why?!?" I hear you cry ... well, partly because I have the first two and I like closure and partly because I have the missus' nephews and nieces staying with us most weekends and holidays and a certain amount of my DVD purchases have them in mind.
The nephews (who are both 10) love The Matrix and Reloaded so they'll no doubt want to watch it, much the missus' annoyance.
The nephews (who are both 10) love The Matrix and Reloaded so they'll no doubt want to watch it, much the missus' annoyance.
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Jonathan Nash wrote:
> Yes he was, but more importantly;
Nah, he wasn't dead.
"It is done."
That's what the machine said after Neo fought Smith. Who the hell was it talking to if Neo was dead?
> Yes he was, but more importantly;
Nah, he wasn't dead.
"It is done."
That's what the machine said after Neo fought Smith. Who the hell was it talking to if Neo was dead?
Goatboy wrote:
> But, some geek can clear this up, didn't The Architect say "If
> you go through that door, it leads to the destruction of your entire
> species" at the end of Reloaded? 'Cos Neo did, and it didn't.
> Which kind of made Mr Thesarus a teensy bit redundant?
That was through the assumption that the humans would fight the machines, as usual, and lose. What Neo did differently from his predecessors was look for peace. The Architect believed that nothing but destruction could come from Neo's decision, as he didn't understand love. As the Oracle says, "we cannot see past choices we do not understand".
> But, some geek can clear this up, didn't The Architect say "If
> you go through that door, it leads to the destruction of your entire
> species" at the end of Reloaded? 'Cos Neo did, and it didn't.
> Which kind of made Mr Thesarus a teensy bit redundant?
That was through the assumption that the humans would fight the machines, as usual, and lose. What Neo did differently from his predecessors was look for peace. The Architect believed that nothing but destruction could come from Neo's decision, as he didn't understand love. As the Oracle says, "we cannot see past choices we do not understand".
The sagacious one wrote:
> What is amusing was Revolutions poo-pooed everyone's theories
> (including mine) on why Neo was able to destroy the Sentinels,
> outside of the Matrix.
Yes, but it explained that Neo is not just human - he is part man, part machine. He has a connection with the machines through the program of The One, which enables him to control/destroy them and see the machine city even when blinded.
"The power of the one extends beyond the Matrix, right back to where it was created, The Source, etc etc"
> What is amusing was Revolutions poo-pooed everyone's theories
> (including mine) on why Neo was able to destroy the Sentinels,
> outside of the Matrix.
Yes, but it explained that Neo is not just human - he is part man, part machine. He has a connection with the machines through the program of The One, which enables him to control/destroy them and see the machine city even when blinded.
"The power of the one extends beyond the Matrix, right back to where it was created, The Source, etc etc"
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> What did the Merovingian signify? What was he, just some rogue
> random program? What was his purpose?
He was a character that allowed The Wachowskis to ram home the notion of causality and effect. Which, in case The Oracle telling him/Morpheus telling him/The Keymaker telling him wasn't enough, set up the finale of Revolutions nicely.
Failing that, any excuse to have sneery Frenchmen is a good thing in my book.
> Likewise with Seraph, what's the deal with him? And why do they call
> him 'the fallen angel' and 'the wingless one' at Club Hell? What's
> his connection to the Oracle?
seraph -- (an angel of the first order; usually portrayed as the winged head of a child)
> What did the Merovingian signify? What was he, just some rogue
> random program? What was his purpose?
He was a character that allowed The Wachowskis to ram home the notion of causality and effect. Which, in case The Oracle telling him/Morpheus telling him/The Keymaker telling him wasn't enough, set up the finale of Revolutions nicely.
Failing that, any excuse to have sneery Frenchmen is a good thing in my book.
> Likewise with Seraph, what's the deal with him? And why do they call
> him 'the fallen angel' and 'the wingless one' at Club Hell? What's
> his connection to the Oracle?
seraph -- (an angel of the first order; usually portrayed as the winged head of a child)
Nope, 'fraid I still enjoyed the hell out of Reloaded and Revolutions.
But, some geek can clear this up, didn't The Architect say "If you go through that door, it leads to the destruction of your entire species" at the end of Reloaded? 'Cos Neo did, and it didn't.
Which kind of made Mr Thesarus a teensy bit redundant?
The Merovingian rules though, a smug Frenchy with Monica Belucci's incredible baps for a companion and he still finds time to make a sex-cake for random blondes in restaurants?
I want to be The Merovingian. Actually, come to think of it, in the SR forums I practically am him anyway - condescending, superior, snooty and a barely concealed contempt for those around me.
N'est ce pas?
But, some geek can clear this up, didn't The Architect say "If you go through that door, it leads to the destruction of your entire species" at the end of Reloaded? 'Cos Neo did, and it didn't.
Which kind of made Mr Thesarus a teensy bit redundant?
The Merovingian rules though, a smug Frenchy with Monica Belucci's incredible baps for a companion and he still finds time to make a sex-cake for random blondes in restaurants?
I want to be The Merovingian. Actually, come to think of it, in the SR forums I practically am him anyway - condescending, superior, snooty and a barely concealed contempt for those around me.
N'est ce pas?
Yeah, by using cop-out clause #1, namely: "Because he just can."
I think I'll watch the original again this week. I saw Reloaded twice at the cinema and while I had a suspicion there was something about it I didn't like, watching it again on DVD dispelled any doubt I had. But at Revolutions cost, because it doesn't tie it all up neat enough for me. There was too much crap, almost like they had to fill out an extra hour to justify an extra movie.
Answer these for me please:
What did the Merovingian signify? What was he, just some rogue random program? What was his purpose?
Likewise with Seraph, what's the deal with him? And why do they call him 'the fallen angel' and 'the wingless one' at Club Hell? What's his connection to the Oracle?
I think I'll watch the original again this week. I saw Reloaded twice at the cinema and while I had a suspicion there was something about it I didn't like, watching it again on DVD dispelled any doubt I had. But at Revolutions cost, because it doesn't tie it all up neat enough for me. There was too much crap, almost like they had to fill out an extra hour to justify an extra movie.
Answer these for me please:
What did the Merovingian signify? What was he, just some rogue random program? What was his purpose?
Likewise with Seraph, what's the deal with him? And why do they call him 'the fallen angel' and 'the wingless one' at Club Hell? What's his connection to the Oracle?
What is amusing was Revolutions poo-pooed everyone's theories (including mine) on why Neo was able to destroy the Sentinels, outside of the Matrix.
Yes he was, but more importantly;
gamezfreak wrote:
> "Neos dead, son"
It was a girl, son.
gamezfreak wrote:
> "Neos dead, son"
It was a girl, son.
gamezfreak wrote:
> "I painted the sky for NEO!!!1!1121!!1!!!"
> "Neos dead, son"
Woah woah woah... hold the phone.
Neo wasn't dead.
> "I painted the sky for NEO!!!1!1121!!1!!!"
> "Neos dead, son"
Woah woah woah... hold the phone.
Neo wasn't dead.
I missed it at the cinema, so I'll most likely either buy it or rent it out, just to see the conclusion, really. I didn't think Reloaded was that bad, but not half as good as the original, but I never really thought it would equal such a classic.
The mumbo jumbo and dragged-out fight sequences did spoil it, but it was alright.
The mumbo jumbo and dragged-out fight sequences did spoil it, but it was alright.
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