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If a foetus has a serious genetic defect (its life will be comprised of sitting in a chair and drooling) do you think a compulsory abortion should take place?
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Timmargh, do you think aborting healthy babies should be legal?
Cyclone wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> English_Bloke wrote:
> I would like to know what part of, "Gods plan", children
> born with these kinds of diseases fit into.
>
> These people are children of the Lord, some even get better and make
> a real go of lives. Others can still learn about the love of the
> Lord. Essentially, they can be great evangelists, people can see how
> these deformed children have accepted Jesus.
>
> Where did you come from?
London, or did you mean something else?
> Forest Fan wrote:
> English_Bloke wrote:
> I would like to know what part of, "Gods plan", children
> born with these kinds of diseases fit into.
>
> These people are children of the Lord, some even get better and make
> a real go of lives. Others can still learn about the love of the
> Lord. Essentially, they can be great evangelists, people can see how
> these deformed children have accepted Jesus.
>
> Where did you come from?
London, or did you mean something else?
Ineedsleep wrote:
> So are we pet :)
*****
Aww - ta!
> So are we pet :)
*****
Aww - ta!
Satan's daughter, eh?
Forest Fan wrote:
> Right Ashman, I am personally dead against abortion, except if the
> baby or mother will not survive.
> The truth is very few abortions are for the reasons of either rape or
> the mother or baby will die. Some, yes,
Are you also dead set against abortion in this instance? Just out of curiosity do you know anyone who has had a miscarriage or abortion. The distress caused to the mother can be equal in both cases.
> Right Ashman, I am personally dead against abortion, except if the
> baby or mother will not survive.
> The truth is very few abortions are for the reasons of either rape or
> the mother or baby will die. Some, yes,
Are you also dead set against abortion in this instance? Just out of curiosity do you know anyone who has had a miscarriage or abortion. The distress caused to the mother can be equal in both cases.
Timmargh wrote:
>
> Personally, I'm rather glad that I wasn't aborted (!)
So are we pet :)
> it's not a decision I would ever have to face. You may think that's a
> cop-out but, frankly, I don't care.
It is not a cop-out but an informed decision. One that you, and only you, could make one way or the other.
>
> Personally, I'm rather glad that I wasn't aborted (!)
So are we pet :)
> it's not a decision I would ever have to face. You may think that's a
> cop-out but, frankly, I don't care.
It is not a cop-out but an informed decision. One that you, and only you, could make one way or the other.
*steps into the ring, so to speak*
When my mother was pregnant with me she caught German measles. The doctors gave her the option to have an abortion as they said I could be affected by her ill health. Obviously, she decided against it.
11 years after being born I was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy which is a genetic condition usually passed on from a parent. However, as neither of my parents, their parents or my siblings have muscular dystrophy then they concluded that it was the result of a genetic mutation, possibly brought on by the German measles.
Were my parents right to refuse the abortion? Opinions may differ, but their reasons were: a) there was no way of knowing for sure that I would be affected, and b) they were prepared to do whatever it took to bring me up as normally as possible.
Personally, I'm rather glad that I wasn't aborted (!), but then again I consider myself incredibly lucky that I have a relatively normal life - I have an active mind and plenty of aids and assistance to help me with my day-to-day existence.
I have made a conscious decision not to have kids (snip!) as there is a 50% chance that any child I father would have muscular dystrophy, too. As a result of this, I haven't formed an opinion on abortion as it's not a decision I would ever have to face. You may think that's a cop-out but, frankly, I don't care.
When my mother was pregnant with me she caught German measles. The doctors gave her the option to have an abortion as they said I could be affected by her ill health. Obviously, she decided against it.
11 years after being born I was diagnosed with muscular dystrophy which is a genetic condition usually passed on from a parent. However, as neither of my parents, their parents or my siblings have muscular dystrophy then they concluded that it was the result of a genetic mutation, possibly brought on by the German measles.
Were my parents right to refuse the abortion? Opinions may differ, but their reasons were: a) there was no way of knowing for sure that I would be affected, and b) they were prepared to do whatever it took to bring me up as normally as possible.
Personally, I'm rather glad that I wasn't aborted (!), but then again I consider myself incredibly lucky that I have a relatively normal life - I have an active mind and plenty of aids and assistance to help me with my day-to-day existence.
I have made a conscious decision not to have kids (snip!) as there is a 50% chance that any child I father would have muscular dystrophy, too. As a result of this, I haven't formed an opinion on abortion as it's not a decision I would ever have to face. You may think that's a cop-out but, frankly, I don't care.
Forest Fan wrote:
> English_Bloke wrote:
> I would like to know what part of, "Gods plan", children
> born with these kinds of diseases fit into.
>
> These people are children of the Lord, some even get better and make
> a real go of lives. Others can still learn about the love of the
> Lord. Essentially, they can be great evangelists, people can see how
> these deformed children have accepted Jesus.
Where did you come from?
> English_Bloke wrote:
> I would like to know what part of, "Gods plan", children
> born with these kinds of diseases fit into.
>
> These people are children of the Lord, some even get better and make
> a real go of lives. Others can still learn about the love of the
> Lord. Essentially, they can be great evangelists, people can see how
> these deformed children have accepted Jesus.
Where did you come from?
Ashman wrote:
> Abortion is never ideal but it is sometimes the best available option.
> I believe that life begins when the heart starts beating in a
> foetus. This is a stereotypical image of life, and implies that the
> foetus has the resemblance, and some life requirements of humans. I
> think ANY abortion is acceptable up to this point point. Also, it
> would be unfair to deny a woman her right to abort an unborn child as
> a result of rape. How would you like a child that you couldn't love
> because every day it reminded you of how somewone brutally took
> advantage of you? Further more, how would you feel if this happened
> to your wife?
>
> If a mother has cancer half way through her pregnancy, she should
> have the option to abort and get treatment, and not risk leaving her
> child without a mother, and doing harm to herself. I believe this as
> it will just cause pain and suffering for more people.
Right Ashman, I am personally dead against abortion, except if the baby or mother will not survive. The methods use to kill babies in this day and age are absolutely appaling, the babies are not even given painkillers, just expected to cope with this gruesome death, at only a few months old. Did you know in current UK law, if you were to have your baby aborted in the last available week (about week 26) the baby could actually survive if it were to be released via pregnancy?
The truth is very few abortions are for the reasons of either rape or the mother or baby will die. Some, yes, but the majority of abortions are because the mother "can't cope". Is killing a perfectly healthy baby a fair way for the mother to relieve herself?
> Abortion is never ideal but it is sometimes the best available option.
> I believe that life begins when the heart starts beating in a
> foetus. This is a stereotypical image of life, and implies that the
> foetus has the resemblance, and some life requirements of humans. I
> think ANY abortion is acceptable up to this point point. Also, it
> would be unfair to deny a woman her right to abort an unborn child as
> a result of rape. How would you like a child that you couldn't love
> because every day it reminded you of how somewone brutally took
> advantage of you? Further more, how would you feel if this happened
> to your wife?
>
> If a mother has cancer half way through her pregnancy, she should
> have the option to abort and get treatment, and not risk leaving her
> child without a mother, and doing harm to herself. I believe this as
> it will just cause pain and suffering for more people.
Right Ashman, I am personally dead against abortion, except if the baby or mother will not survive. The methods use to kill babies in this day and age are absolutely appaling, the babies are not even given painkillers, just expected to cope with this gruesome death, at only a few months old. Did you know in current UK law, if you were to have your baby aborted in the last available week (about week 26) the baby could actually survive if it were to be released via pregnancy?
The truth is very few abortions are for the reasons of either rape or the mother or baby will die. Some, yes, but the majority of abortions are because the mother "can't cope". Is killing a perfectly healthy baby a fair way for the mother to relieve herself?
Seems sick to me.
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