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"Forest Fan testimony"

It was just a few years ago, growing up in a Hebrew Christian family, that I went to Church, had faith, prayed - occasionally and read the Bible - again occasionally. Then the boss of my father, invited us all over to the States, for a conference on Jewish teachings in the Bible. It was my first time away and I enjoyed the time, but something better, more amazing happened. There in sunny USA for the first time, in the desert of Arizona something else happened...

As I was really a man now, it was time for me to make a decision about Jesus and this trip, made up my mind, that I wanted Jesus and wanted to avoid Hell. I was sitting in a room, when I asked Jesus into my heart. I suddenly felt the difference, I was relieved, my sins were off my shoulders and on the cross. Jesus was living in me, in my life and in my heart. What a great day! You might think, is it really that easy? Do you really just pray and feel different? The answer is YES. If you confess you are a SINNER, you believe Jesus died for YOUR SINS and He LOVES YOU, you will be saved! That's what I did anyway.

Anyway, thinking that was it for the day, having asked Jesus into my heart - enough for one day, I went to bed. Next morning I woke up early to reflect on the previous day, when a gleem of light, glistened through the bathroom door. I opened it, to get ready for the day, when I went to the sink, to wash. As I reached for the sink (with nothing on my feet), I wobbled unsteadily, before I felt myself falling. It felt like minutes, but in reality, it was seconds, before I fell... head-first straight onto the cold, hard, marble like bathroom floor. I was soon carried away and into safety, but the pain wrang around in my head, for days.

As I went back down to the conference, head still hurting, most of the ateendees met with me and they told me that I had been attacked by Satan, but the Lord had protected me. How true that sounded! I had no long lasting damage to my head and enjoyed the rest of my trip. I met Archangel out there and His name reminds me that the angels looked after me in Arizona. I never really thought much about hurting my head, because it soon healed after much ice and rest, but recently I reminded myself of it. I was doubting I was really saved, when the Lord reminded me I am on the Lord's side and I accepted Him the day I was saved and Satan tried to get me the next day - but he was just too late.

Grix Thraves wrote:
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> *bang*
> *bang*
> *bang*
>
> My thoughts exactly.
>
> See, if God came to YOU and said "Look, sorry mate, but you're
> going to wipe out the human race and you can't do anything about it.
> Kill yourself." that's what you'll immedietely think. That
> you're not going to kill anyone, nobody will wipe out the human
> race.

Except He wouldn't DO THAT. I know that for a fact.
>
> To doubt Him would be doubting your faith, surely? Maybe he
> understands that you really would doubt Him, and that it's better
> that I kill you instead. Makes perfect sense to me.

I wouldn't listen to whoever told me that, God WOULD NOT tell me that, Satan might though, just so I would kill myself, but even he is cleverer than that though.
>
> No matter what you do or what you think, if God says that you're
> going to kill the human race then you have to believe He's right. You
> may feel the most peaceful wonderful person on Earth but if He can
> see something that you can't then you have to trust Him on it.

No, wouldn't follow it, because it would just be Satan pretending yo be God, I wouldn't fall for it.
>
> Maybe it'll just be an accident. Maybe you're the strongest link in a
> chain that destroys the planet, it doesn't matter if you hurt a
> single person, if you're the link then you need to be broken.

Or maybe not, yeh, that's a more logical explanation. Can we please discuss something a) relevant and b) likely. Thanks.

This would make a great Fog Story, gang get back together on a mission from God to kill Forest Fan.. ;)

Hehe. Just like in Phone Booth. :-D


Forest Fan wrote:
> Except I have NO plans for wiping out the human race, would like to
> save a few even, by spreading the Gospel - the Good News, that we can
> have eternal life.

Ah, but your spreading of the good news might drive someone to destroy the world, or a man who might've killed them turned into a pacifist after you gave them "the word".

It's a chaotic world out there!

> Anyway, the human race is not going to be wiped out by me or anyone
> else.

Maybe not... but what if and the only way to stop it was the end of you?

:-O

Mr Snuggly wrote:
> Why is it I can totally see this guy atop a Bell Tower with a rifle,
> doing 'God's Work'?
>
> "Repent! And ye shall be saved!"
>
> *bang*
> *bang*
> *bang*

What "this guy" being me?

Mr Snuggly wrote:
*bang*
*bang*
*bang*

My thoughts exactly.

See, if God came to YOU and said "Look, sorry mate, but you're going to wipe out the human race and you can't do anything about it. Kill yourself." that's what you'll immedietely think. That you're not going to kill anyone, nobody will wipe out the human race.

To doubt Him would be doubting your faith, surely? Maybe he understands that you really would doubt Him, and that it's better that I kill you instead. Makes perfect sense to me.

No matter what you do or what you think, if God says that you're going to kill the human race then you have to believe He's right. You may feel the most peaceful wonderful person on Earth but if He can see something that you can't then you have to trust Him on it.

Maybe it'll just be an accident. Maybe you're the strongest link in a chain that destroys the planet, it doesn't matter if you hurt a single person, if you're the link then you need to be broken.

Why is it I can totally see this guy atop a Bell Tower with a rifle, doing 'God's Work'?

"Repent! And ye shall be saved!"

*bang*
*bang*
*bang*

Grix Thraves wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
> "Mysterious ways, not plain evil ways."
>
> I don't think it's incredible evil..
>
> Besides - Your perception of evil is only your moral judgement,
> surely? If God requires me to perform a task like this, then I would
> imagine that He has a very good reason for me doing it, after all.
>
> Perhaps it was important to the survival of humanity that you died,
> and your death triggered a chain reaction that in result saved the
> planet? If God can see this, then perhaps your death cannot be seen
> as evil, but simply an unfortunate task that must be completed.
>
> This way is cetainly mysterious, but not necessarily evil.

Except I have NO plans for wiping out the human race, would like to save a few even, by spreading the Gospel - the Good News, that we can have eternal life.

Anyway, the human race is not going to be wiped out by me or anyone else.

Forest Fan wrote:

"Mysterious ways, not plain evil ways."

I don't think it's incredible evil..

Besides - Your perception of evil is only your moral judgement, surely? If God requires me to perform a task like this, then I would imagine that He has a very good reason for me doing it, after all.

Perhaps it was important to the survival of humanity that you died, and your death triggered a chain reaction that in result saved the planet? If God can see this, then perhaps your death cannot be seen as evil, but simply an unfortunate task that must be completed.

This way is cetainly mysterious, but not necessarily evil.

Grix Thraves wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
> "What, going to kill me? Is that a threat now?"
>
> No, no threat.
>
> But it's a serious question - If God came to me, in a vision, and
> told me to kill you, should I obey Him?

Yes, go on then. Kill me, if God [I[really[/I] told you so, but He wouldn't because He is not a murderer.
>
> God works in mysterious ways. Is it right to do His bidding in this
> instant?

Mysterious ways, not plain evil ways.

English_Bloke wrote:
> You're all so dark and morbid. Can't we just all hold hands and sing
> or something?

Let's.