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It was just a few years ago, growing up in a Hebrew Christian family, that I went to Church, had faith, prayed - occasionally and read the Bible - again occasionally. Then the boss of my father, invited us all over to the States, for a conference on Jewish teachings in the Bible. It was my first time away and I enjoyed the time, but something better, more amazing happened. There in sunny USA for the first time, in the desert of Arizona something else happened...
As I was really a man now, it was time for me to make a decision about Jesus and this trip, made up my mind, that I wanted Jesus and wanted to avoid Hell. I was sitting in a room, when I asked Jesus into my heart. I suddenly felt the difference, I was relieved, my sins were off my shoulders and on the cross. Jesus was living in me, in my life and in my heart. What a great day! You might think, is it really that easy? Do you really just pray and feel different? The answer is YES. If you confess you are a SINNER, you believe Jesus died for YOUR SINS and He LOVES YOU, you will be saved! That's what I did anyway.
Anyway, thinking that was it for the day, having asked Jesus into my heart - enough for one day, I went to bed. Next morning I woke up early to reflect on the previous day, when a gleem of light, glistened through the bathroom door. I opened it, to get ready for the day, when I went to the sink, to wash. As I reached for the sink (with nothing on my feet), I wobbled unsteadily, before I felt myself falling. It felt like minutes, but in reality, it was seconds, before I fell... head-first straight onto the cold, hard, marble like bathroom floor. I was soon carried away and into safety, but the pain wrang around in my head, for days.
As I went back down to the conference, head still hurting, most of the ateendees met with me and they told me that I had been attacked by Satan, but the Lord had protected me. How true that sounded! I had no long lasting damage to my head and enjoyed the rest of my trip. I met Archangel out there and His name reminds me that the angels looked after me in Arizona. I never really thought much about hurting my head, because it soon healed after much ice and rest, but recently I reminded myself of it. I was doubting I was really saved, when the Lord reminded me I am on the Lord's side and I accepted Him the day I was saved and Satan tried to get me the next day - but he was just too late.
As I was really a man now, it was time for me to make a decision about Jesus and this trip, made up my mind, that I wanted Jesus and wanted to avoid Hell. I was sitting in a room, when I asked Jesus into my heart. I suddenly felt the difference, I was relieved, my sins were off my shoulders and on the cross. Jesus was living in me, in my life and in my heart. What a great day! You might think, is it really that easy? Do you really just pray and feel different? The answer is YES. If you confess you are a SINNER, you believe Jesus died for YOUR SINS and He LOVES YOU, you will be saved! That's what I did anyway.
Anyway, thinking that was it for the day, having asked Jesus into my heart - enough for one day, I went to bed. Next morning I woke up early to reflect on the previous day, when a gleem of light, glistened through the bathroom door. I opened it, to get ready for the day, when I went to the sink, to wash. As I reached for the sink (with nothing on my feet), I wobbled unsteadily, before I felt myself falling. It felt like minutes, but in reality, it was seconds, before I fell... head-first straight onto the cold, hard, marble like bathroom floor. I was soon carried away and into safety, but the pain wrang around in my head, for days.
As I went back down to the conference, head still hurting, most of the ateendees met with me and they told me that I had been attacked by Satan, but the Lord had protected me. How true that sounded! I had no long lasting damage to my head and enjoyed the rest of my trip. I met Archangel out there and His name reminds me that the angels looked after me in Arizona. I never really thought much about hurting my head, because it soon healed after much ice and rest, but recently I reminded myself of it. I was doubting I was really saved, when the Lord reminded me I am on the Lord's side and I accepted Him the day I was saved and Satan tried to get me the next day - but he was just too late.
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i merely quoted all that to show you that there are many different types of believers within a creationism.
I believe the world is about 6,000 years old, I can't be sure, but I think it is most likely.
beanz wrote:
> Young Earth Creationists believe that the Earth was created by God
> around 6,000 years ago, usually in accord with the Ussher-Lightfoot
> Calendar.
That one is the Biblical view.
> Young Earth Creationists believe that the Earth was created by God
> around 6,000 years ago, usually in accord with the Ussher-Lightfoot
> Calendar.
That one is the Biblical view.
"Types of creationist beliefs:
Within the broader term creationist, there is no single set of beliefs, but a few general categories exist. One classification is by the believed age of the Earth.
Young Earth Creationists believe that the Earth was created by God around 6,000 years ago, usually in accord with the Ussher-Lightfoot Calendar.
Old Earth Creationists believe that the Earth is millions of years old. Old Earth Creationism comes in two flavours:
Gap Creationism or Restitution Creationism — the view that life was immediately created on a pre-existing old Earth. This group generally translates Genesis 1:2 as "The earth became without form and void," indicating a destruction of the original creation by some unknown cataclysm. Some Gap Creationists identify this destruction with the fall of Lucifer.
Day-Age Creationism — the view that the "six days" of Genesis are not ordinary 24-hour days, but rather much longer periods (for instance, each "day" could be the equivalent of a million years of modern time). This group notes that God is not bound by time.
Another classification is by how organisms are believed to be created or have been created.
Progressive Creationism states that new kinds of organisms are constantly being created to replace extinct ancient forms.
Intelligent Design states that life is too complex to have evolved without the intervention of an (unnamed) intelligent designer. The originator of this view is biochemist Michael Behe.
Evolutionary Creationism, also called Theistic Evolution, states that biological evolution happens, but that God controls the apparently random events or designed the fundamental physical laws that allow evolution.
Deism states that the universe was created by a God who then made no further intervention in its affairs. This is often expressed by the metaphor of the "Divine Watchmaker" who created a mechanism so perfect as to be self-regulating. Deists do not believe in miracles or revelations."
Within the broader term creationist, there is no single set of beliefs, but a few general categories exist. One classification is by the believed age of the Earth.
Young Earth Creationists believe that the Earth was created by God around 6,000 years ago, usually in accord with the Ussher-Lightfoot Calendar.
Old Earth Creationists believe that the Earth is millions of years old. Old Earth Creationism comes in two flavours:
Gap Creationism or Restitution Creationism — the view that life was immediately created on a pre-existing old Earth. This group generally translates Genesis 1:2 as "The earth became without form and void," indicating a destruction of the original creation by some unknown cataclysm. Some Gap Creationists identify this destruction with the fall of Lucifer.
Day-Age Creationism — the view that the "six days" of Genesis are not ordinary 24-hour days, but rather much longer periods (for instance, each "day" could be the equivalent of a million years of modern time). This group notes that God is not bound by time.
Another classification is by how organisms are believed to be created or have been created.
Progressive Creationism states that new kinds of organisms are constantly being created to replace extinct ancient forms.
Intelligent Design states that life is too complex to have evolved without the intervention of an (unnamed) intelligent designer. The originator of this view is biochemist Michael Behe.
Evolutionary Creationism, also called Theistic Evolution, states that biological evolution happens, but that God controls the apparently random events or designed the fundamental physical laws that allow evolution.
Deism states that the universe was created by a God who then made no further intervention in its affairs. This is often expressed by the metaphor of the "Divine Watchmaker" who created a mechanism so perfect as to be self-regulating. Deists do not believe in miracles or revelations."
beanz wrote:
> Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan, despite what you believe, the world isn't split into
> "Creationists" and "Evolutionists" - it's not
> like Communism and Capitolism you know.
>
>
> exactly...there are so many different factions of christianity all
> believing in different things...heck if you just look into
> creationists you'll find many different beliefs.
But if you look at Creationism through Genesis, there is only one account upon which to base your beliefs.
> Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan, despite what you believe, the world isn't split into
> "Creationists" and "Evolutionists" - it's not
> like Communism and Capitolism you know.
>
>
> exactly...there are so many different factions of christianity all
> believing in different things...heck if you just look into
> creationists you'll find many different beliefs.
But if you look at Creationism through Genesis, there is only one account upon which to base your beliefs.
Edgy wrote:
> Forest Fan, despite what you believe, the world isn't split into
> "Creationists" and "Evolutionists" - it's not
> like Communism and Capitolism you know.
exactly...there are so many different factions of christianity all believing in different things...heck if you just look into creationists you'll find many different beliefs.
> Forest Fan, despite what you believe, the world isn't split into
> "Creationists" and "Evolutionists" - it's not
> like Communism and Capitolism you know.
exactly...there are so many different factions of christianity all believing in different things...heck if you just look into creationists you'll find many different beliefs.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Edgy, according to evolutionists who were the very first 100% humans?
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What classification are you looking at? The genus homo? Or the species sapiens? There's evidence for quite a few intermediates.
> Edgy, according to evolutionists who were the very first 100% humans?
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What classification are you looking at? The genus homo? Or the species sapiens? There's evidence for quite a few intermediates.
Forest Fan, despite what you believe, the world isn't split into "Creationists" and "Evolutionists" - it's not like Communism and Capitolism you know.
I personally don't believe the very first homosapiens had names.
Their communication skills would have been very primitive in comparison to todays standards.
I personally don't believe the very first homosapiens had names.
Their communication skills would have been very primitive in comparison to todays standards.
Believing Genesis? Genesis was written 3500 years ago and was believed 3500 years ago...
Scientists are less likely to believe in fundamentalist christian philosophy (which is what FF believes in). It's actually a pretty modern movement
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