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Sun 08/02/04 at 23:52
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Er some of you may remember me from when the nintendo forums were young and i was a persistent crusader in the cause of the N64, i must confess i am more than a little disappointed with some of the flagship offerings of the gamecube. Whilst i appreciate that other games consoles eg the PS2 already have extremely low levels of actual quality established games, i am pretty disappointed in general with this generation of consoles.
When the N64 was out there wasn't huge amounts of games, but what was there was pure quality:

Goldeneye, perfect dark, Mario kart, mario, Zelda, zelda 2, Smash brothers, snowboard kids, Banjo kazooie, f-zero x, diddy kong, to name a few of the best, even the games like Donkey Kong which didn't quite live up to expectations were still excellent games. The games had pretty much a perfect balance between skill and playability combined with top console graphics for the time.
Where did it all go wrong in the transition to the gamecube, When i bought any of those previous titles i felt like i got full value for my my money and don't regret buying any of them. However out of the Games i've bought on the gamecube and i have pretty much all the big titles, only timesplitters 2 has felt anywhere near value for money.

Mario Sunshine: was a huge step back from 64, everything is just far more simple, they have just scaled everything up and added some pretty colours yet preetty much neglected anything even resembling a challenge in favour of some stupid backpacks and cleaning up some paint, such a disappointment.

Mario Kart: This has had the biggest fall from grace ever out of anygame i have ever played, We play it a lot but only in 4 player were it is fun only in the sense of competition and the general banter in the room rather than the actual gameplay. Again everything is scaled up and simplified, It is made for a retard to pick up a controller and be able to win in multiplayer, gone are the days when skill wins the race. Who remembers when the talented players hardly ever fell off? used the items in just the right places, where the ones who could do the jump on the beach pretty much every time. Now it: "ooh look a ridiculous item ill jump from half a lap behind having fallen in the water 19 times to win the race" bloody disappointing.

Smash Brothers: Don't even get me started on smash brothers, the game which symbolised playability, frantic pace and quality game play, has yet again been butchered, we are talking a game which i probably a week's multiplayer play time on at least. And it has been massacred what have you done to it, i ask you nintendo. What did it do to deserve to be massacred in to a gay pokemon fest with stupid moving platforms and over exaggerated items and stupid stages, which are often so large of changing so quickly that it just ruins the game.

Zelda: Cell-shading and over simplifying, are nintendo's vices here, again it is far simpler than the original, the graphics look like a two year olds picture book, the storyline sucks and it leaves you cring thinking that this is the successor to ocarina of time (the second best game ever given to man).

F-zero x- I have not bought this yet, i am to afraid to buy it, after the massacring of the previous titles this is the one ray of hope left in this bleak nintendo world. With out hope, there is nothing.

Nintendo go back to the good old days, stop trying to be cool with your cell shading and poke-fests. Give us quality and challenging workmanship, I don't particularly care if the graphics are only n64 standard, i want games that i can actually get into and enjoy, rather than an oversimplified colourful mess.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:24
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That reminds me, must start Skies of Arcadia again. Got 25 hours into it only to delete my save accidently. Awesome game, my favourite RPG I have played, more so than Deus Ex, KOTOR and Final Fantasy VII. A bit of a time consumer though, more so than Zelda.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:21
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I may give it another go then. But OOT just took me in until I had completed it.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:20
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I had it for about 9 months without touching it and then recently I just sat down and have found myself completely absorbed in the game. Took me a while to get into but it was definitley worth it.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:17
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I should play it again
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:17
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Thats a sub task though isn't it? I have done it to get all the heart pieces but I don't believe its required.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:14
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It is the, "putting water on the trees", bit that got me irritated.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:13
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I am right at the end but hevn't really bothered about the sailing, the "Ballad of Gales" made getting around the map easier and quicker, also if you spend just a little time going to the fish before each island you can update your map with every single location which makes transfering between islands much less of a farse.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:10
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I keep telling myself to play it again, but I never get round to it. I liked it for a while, but all that bloody sailing!
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:09
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Its not the gameplay, although personally its one of my favourite games on this generation, its how he commented on the visuals, utter A grade ass talk.
Mon 09/02/04 at 00:07
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Zelda cel shading looks like its been done by a 2 year old? I suppose
> you feel the same about Viewtiful Joe? Zelda is graphically up there
> with the best of the best.

I agree with that, but I just didn't get into it as much as with OOT.

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