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Fri 30/01/04 at 19:05
"slightlyshortertagl"
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Come on Bell. Justify the war that was started by a man who has no clue why he went to war (by his own admission).
Fri 30/01/04 at 21:55
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"Stay Frosty"
Posts: 742
Belldandy wrote:
> Say what you like about the American military but in terms of
> equipment and supply they have it pretty much flawless - all their
> personnel are equipped with body armour and their Humvee vehicles
> take far more punishment than the jeeps we use. In an urban
> environment I would of thought the enclosed Humvee was far better
> than our jeeps are.

To be fair, the difference between the US HMMWV and the British Defenders is the purpose they were designed for. The HMMWV was designed to be at the front-line in a large scale conflice. It was, in effect to be an APC. Where as, the Defender was to be used, primarily as mobility for peace-keeping duties, where a Defender is more than capable in providing support for such actions. There's also the cost, its much cheaper to buy a Land Rover, than a 'Hummer'.
Fri 30/01/04 at 22:02
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Decoy Octopus wrote:
> The War in Iraq is Americas problem our boys should be brought back
> leave America there to sort the problem out.

I think the US forces would be left well and truly up the creek in the British forces pulled out, as it would leave a large void.

> yes was there too many friendly fire incidents?

The Government(US/UK) has been investing large amounts into preventing Blue on Blue. It's just a shame they havn't came up with a solution yet.

> yes were the reasons for the war unfounded (WMD)?

Well, the Government saw Intel pointing to Iraq having WMD. Its only via hindsight that they know for a fact this Intel may be wrong.

> Yes (SO-FAR, WMD
> could still be found) in reality has this war made the world a safer
> place? No, almost daily we are told about the terrorist threat and of
> suicide bombings.

Well, i think that the defenition people give to WMD is far to narrow. Personally, i think the Republical Guard and ten's of thousands of AK'S was just as dangerous as and C or B weapon.
Fri 30/01/04 at 22:03
"Mimmargh!"
Posts: 2,929
English_Bloke wrote:
> Not if you're female.

You should probably request your superior officer never to let you be on duty during feminist rallies.
Fri 30/01/04 at 22:04
"Mimmargh!"
Posts: 2,929
Decoy Octopus wrote:
> America's war was with Japan, they CHOSE to help europe. Our country
> does not have to join America in every single war.

Well we don't though, for example we refused to help in the Vietnam War.
Fri 30/01/04 at 22:05
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"Stay Frosty"
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Emperor Xerxes wrote:
> I must admit, the sheer buffoonery of America in regards to friendly
> fire incidents, from every war from World War II to Gulf War II,
> never fails to amaze me.

In WW2 there was a saying:

When the British flew over, the Germans ducked.
When the Germans flew over, the British ducked.
When the Americans flew over, everybody ducked.
Fri 30/01/04 at 22:06
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"Puerile Shagging"
Posts: 15,009
Emperor Xerxes wrote:
> You should probably request your superior officer never to let you be
> on duty during feminist rallies.

Why? I'd charm the hairy old birds. I'd recommend they go and see the doctor if their menopause is getting to them so much that they feel the need to start rallying.
Sat 31/01/04 at 09:34
"Mimmargh!"
Posts: 2,929
Skarra, I have actually heard or that from my grandfather funnily enough. I just thought to myself; some things never change.
Sat 31/01/04 at 10:16
"I love yo... lamp."
Posts: 19,577
I don't know about that. Graduates of the Biggles School Of Scary Flyingİ are normally decent enough.
Sat 31/01/04 at 10:32
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Posts: 5,323
Emperor Xerxes wrote:
> Britain of course scores brownie points, not the great empire it was
> it gets at least some influence by joining the U.S. France etc on the
> other hand have only diminished their influence and status. The UK
> may be Americas minion but that is probably better than either its
> enemy or estranged cousin.

But France has the EU it doesn't need to be the US' poodle. In the coming years Britain will become a State of America (Would this mean killing off the royal family?).
Sat 31/01/04 at 10:35
Posts: 15,443
Nooo! Imagine a world with no royal family.

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