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This post will be a list of questions with a few things stuck on here and there with double-sided sticky tape to bulk it out a bit.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
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Jeff Dahmer wrote:
> The police seem to victimize those committing lesser crimes, when they
> ought to be out solving real cases. I was apprehended at my
> apartment for the meagre law infraction of torturing, massacring and
> eating over 30 people. Now come on, there are people out there
> committing bank robberies for gods sake.
I started to read that post and was about to point out how ignorant it was, but then I continued to read and just started to laugh. Well done.
> The police seem to victimize those committing lesser crimes, when they
> ought to be out solving real cases. I was apprehended at my
> apartment for the meagre law infraction of torturing, massacring and
> eating over 30 people. Now come on, there are people out there
> committing bank robberies for gods sake.
I started to read that post and was about to point out how ignorant it was, but then I continued to read and just started to laugh. Well done.
gamezfreak wrote:
> Firstly I think the police force are time-wasters, they waste too
> much time on sorting out so-called "crimes" when some old
> lady could be getting mugged in a town centre. For example, the other
> day the cops had stopped a car because his number plate stated
> "Da Singh" instead of "D4 Singh", obviously yes
> this is illegal, but surely standing in front of the car for 20 mins
> holding up the driver is a waste of time? The driver wasn't being
> aggressive or threatening, they could of just given him a warning to
> sort it out, then move on aye?
The guy has committed one offence, what is to say he's not committing any more?
They were probably checking his car out and him also. I will give you an example.
A car was stopped a while back for a faulty head-light, upon talking to the driver and having run him through the system it turned out he was wanted for failing to answer his bail. He was arrested and searched. Found on him were some, “banned substances”, his car was then searched. In his car was yet more of this. His house was searched and around £50,000 worth of these, “banned substances”, were found and £20,000 in cash. He is now in prison.
Should he just have been let go with a warning, or was the 10-minute job of checking out him and his car worth it?
I know what you mean, but I think holding up each person we stop for 10-minutes and then letting them go a little later is worth it if you catch just one guy like the one above.
> Firstly I think the police force are time-wasters, they waste too
> much time on sorting out so-called "crimes" when some old
> lady could be getting mugged in a town centre. For example, the other
> day the cops had stopped a car because his number plate stated
> "Da Singh" instead of "D4 Singh", obviously yes
> this is illegal, but surely standing in front of the car for 20 mins
> holding up the driver is a waste of time? The driver wasn't being
> aggressive or threatening, they could of just given him a warning to
> sort it out, then move on aye?
The guy has committed one offence, what is to say he's not committing any more?
They were probably checking his car out and him also. I will give you an example.
A car was stopped a while back for a faulty head-light, upon talking to the driver and having run him through the system it turned out he was wanted for failing to answer his bail. He was arrested and searched. Found on him were some, “banned substances”, his car was then searched. In his car was yet more of this. His house was searched and around £50,000 worth of these, “banned substances”, were found and £20,000 in cash. He is now in prison.
Should he just have been let go with a warning, or was the 10-minute job of checking out him and his car worth it?
I know what you mean, but I think holding up each person we stop for 10-minutes and then letting them go a little later is worth it if you catch just one guy like the one above.
The police seem to victimize those committing lesser crimes, when they ought to be out solving real cases. I was apprehended at my apartment for the meagre law infraction of torturing, massacring and eating over 30 people. Now come on, there are people out there committing bank robberies for gods sake.
Icarus wrote:
> Unless there is someone in immediate danger, I think the police must
> have a policy of leaving situations to sort themselves out, or at
> least until most of action has been diffused, so they can act as the
> "diplomats" after.
Oh. My. God.
I've said it before, but I will say it again.
The way it works is, you dial 999, you get an operator who will take as many details as they can. That operator will then give the incident a grading ranging from A, (emergencies), B+, (semi-emergency), down to C, (needs doing but not urgent). We as officers will not be informed of any job until we are being sent to it.
> Unless there is someone in immediate danger, I think the police must
> have a policy of leaving situations to sort themselves out, or at
> least until most of action has been diffused, so they can act as the
> "diplomats" after.
Oh. My. God.
I've said it before, but I will say it again.
The way it works is, you dial 999, you get an operator who will take as many details as they can. That operator will then give the incident a grading ranging from A, (emergencies), B+, (semi-emergency), down to C, (needs doing but not urgent). We as officers will not be informed of any job until we are being sent to it.
Oh stop fishing EB.
Look! I'm even using your slang terms.
POLLUTION
Look! I'm even using your slang terms.
POLLUTION
@ng3l wrote:
> Dont get me going on this. I dont know about you but where i live the
> police are F*F**k**g Idiots. Yeah yeah they have alot to do but the
> police here welli wouldnt call it a job i think its just they all get
> to wear a uniform and drive like an idiot.
That made my blood boil. Probably the most ignorant post I've seen from you, you surprised me.
> Then the police reeled of alot of random babble,
> saying if you want to take it any further, but pointing out how much
> paper work it would be for them.
They actually said that to you?
> What i dont get is we get the talk, if you ever need the police we
> are here to help, but they never do.
Blood boiling again.
> Dont get me going on this. I dont know about you but where i live the
> police are F*F**k**g Idiots. Yeah yeah they have alot to do but the
> police here welli wouldnt call it a job i think its just they all get
> to wear a uniform and drive like an idiot.
That made my blood boil. Probably the most ignorant post I've seen from you, you surprised me.
> Then the police reeled of alot of random babble,
> saying if you want to take it any further, but pointing out how much
> paper work it would be for them.
They actually said that to you?
> What i dont get is we get the talk, if you ever need the police we
> are here to help, but they never do.
Blood boiling again.
monkey_man wrote:
> English_bloke, your reply was a bit vague - who was it aimed at, and
> what did you mean?
Which one. I was lazy last night and not wanting to give a detailed answer.
> English_bloke, your reply was a bit vague - who was it aimed at, and
> what did you mean?
Which one. I was lazy last night and not wanting to give a detailed answer.
Icarus wrote:
> So what can you do? My house window was smashed last year by some
> kids, we got the police in and also gave a few names, but that's all
> they did. Take names on a notepad, and leave soon afterwards.
> Probably threw it in a bin afterwards.
A crime would have been raised for criminal damage and if they knew who did it they would be interviewed, and if they admitted it and it was a first offence they would be cautioned. Probably. Can't say for sure.
> So what can you do? My house window was smashed last year by some
> kids, we got the police in and also gave a few names, but that's all
> they did. Take names on a notepad, and leave soon afterwards.
> Probably threw it in a bin afterwards.
A crime would have been raised for criminal damage and if they knew who did it they would be interviewed, and if they admitted it and it was a first offence they would be cautioned. Probably. Can't say for sure.
The police in my opinion have their good points, and bad points. Obviously the good points are that the poilice attempt to crack down on criminal activity to make where we live, a safer place, but seeing as this thread is about my opinion of the force, I may aswell have a little rant about it.
Firstly I think the police force are time-wasters, they waste too much time on sorting out so-called "crimes" when some old lady could be getting mugged in a town centre. For example, the other day the cops had stopped a car because his number plate stated "Da Singh" instead of "D4 Singh", obviously yes this is illegal, but surely standing in front of the car for 20 mins holding up the driver is a waste of time? The driver wasn't being aggressive or threatening, they could of just given him a warning to sort it out, then move on aye?
Anyway muh, rant over.
Firstly I think the police force are time-wasters, they waste too much time on sorting out so-called "crimes" when some old lady could be getting mugged in a town centre. For example, the other day the cops had stopped a car because his number plate stated "Da Singh" instead of "D4 Singh", obviously yes this is illegal, but surely standing in front of the car for 20 mins holding up the driver is a waste of time? The driver wasn't being aggressive or threatening, they could of just given him a warning to sort it out, then move on aye?
Anyway muh, rant over.
LOL, touche.
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