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This post will be a list of questions with a few things stuck on here and there with double-sided sticky tape to bulk it out a bit.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
So it’s a nice simple thread really. The police, what are your views on them, what do you all perceive the job of a police officer to encompass? What experiences and or dealings have you had with them and how have they left you feeling? But I would also like to know what your perceptions are on the different reactions the police receive from the public and any reasons for them.
I am very young in my service and have really only had a minuet taster of all things baton and cuff orientated. Before joining, during the whole application and indeed parts of the actual training I was as ignorant and blind to what the job really is, like most of the general public. I thought the job of a policeman was to be out there protecting the public and catching the bad guys. Having been in for half a year now, I can tell you this is our job, but only a part of it.
I can’t talk for every force, because each is different in the way that they operate due to the fact that they each have their own issues to tackle, but our force as a very proactive force. Of course we still have to be reactive, reacting to whatever the baddies get up to each day, but we also operate in a highly visible manner. Whenever we can we are out patrolling the streets in our incredibly stylish hi-vis jackets, (we’re not all fat by the way, it’s body amour under there). This part of policing I enjoy, I walk the city centre talking to the public, which can be very satisfying as some of the public will talk to you and tell you how nice it is to see the police out and about. I’m a friendly policeman, I will give you directions if you ask me nicely, I will even have my picture taken with you and talk about your cat if you so wish, it’s called building community relations.
However there are of course certain members of the public that no matter how polite you are to them, and despite the fact that you’re trying to help them will treat you like crap. I’m just wondering what mindset it is that causes this level of hatred and animosity towards the police? It’s not all down to previous dealings; some of this is just in-built for seemingly no reason.
Some guy parking in a disabled bay because he doesn’t want to pay for parking or walk from the car park. Politely pointing the offence out to him and telling him that he could be liable for a £30 ticket if he leaves his car there but that I wouldn’t give him one if he would move it, only to be greeted by, “oh for Gods sake, don’t you have anything better to do?”
Another time with the same situation the lady simply said it was because she had, had an operation on her leg so can’t walk far and she just needed to return an ironing board to a shop. She apologised and even said she would accept a ticket. A reasonable person giving me a reasonable reason, so I even offered to carry the item for her.
What causes the different levels of respect shown towards the uniform?
It just amazes me sometimes. One drunk trying to climb into his own shoe in a shop doorway will show you nothing but respect when you enquire about his welfare, another will tell you to “fark orf!” saying, “do you know who my dad is?” No sir, I don’t, have you tried asking your mother?
I’m rambling a little now, so I will stop and let you get on with answering my questions as best as you can.
“I pay your wages!”
Really sir, can I have a raise then please.
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Our police station shuts at the weekends, but there is the money to keep a helicopter flying every night. Go figure on that one... to be honest I've never had much contact with any police apart from when I used to work and they'd occassionaly come and pick up one of the little scrotes who'd been caught by the store detective knicking stuff, and when someone put a 4X4 through the fire exit we had some forensics people around for a day who seemed okay. In town you never ever see any of them walking, always in cars.
Overall I think everyone does a great job but the same cannot be said for the court and legal system which I think lets the police down too often. I mean those guys who rammeda JCB into the dome in London to steal diamonds appealed and got a sentence reduction! In the paper today there is the case of a man who caught some kids stealing his christmas lights so he went outside to stop them and grabbed one of them, who then broke free. He reports it to the police and gets arrested for assault, yet despite the said kid reporting him the same kid does not even get warned for stealing! That's f*£ked up.
Overall I think everyone does a great job but the same cannot be said for the court and legal system which I think lets the police down too often. I mean those guys who rammeda JCB into the dome in London to steal diamonds appealed and got a sentence reduction! In the paper today there is the case of a man who caught some kids stealing his christmas lights so he went outside to stop them and grabbed one of them, who then broke free. He reports it to the police and gets arrested for assault, yet despite the said kid reporting him the same kid does not even get warned for stealing! That's f*£ked up.
unknown kernel wrote:
> Well I've just come home from a night out in the crappiest possible
> suburb of Glasgow (I believe that Sheepy calls it East Kilbride or
> something) and I was glad that the police were trolling around
> outside the club. Fair proportion of absolute numpties but the
> police just seemed to walk past, absorbing their bs with a bemused
> smile. Makes a nice change from when they took me home for giving
> them a 'comedy' name when I was 15.
Where did you go?
I was out that night, yes it sucks.
> Well I've just come home from a night out in the crappiest possible
> suburb of Glasgow (I believe that Sheepy calls it East Kilbride or
> something) and I was glad that the police were trolling around
> outside the club. Fair proportion of absolute numpties but the
> police just seemed to walk past, absorbing their bs with a bemused
> smile. Makes a nice change from when they took me home for giving
> them a 'comedy' name when I was 15.
Where did you go?
I was out that night, yes it sucks.
Hmmm dealing with the police
We got drunk and camped in a field near my house when we were about 15/16 but for some reason we got bored, packed up and kind of wandered around my town. It was Summer and its a very residential area so we never caused any trouble. So we decided to go sleep on the picnic benches in my school but somebody phonned and the police came. They were very nice about it all and just told us to move after a bunch of hungover kids were trying to explain we hadn't really done anything when they could have easily thrown us into their van.
I don't mind the police, a small part of me worries about racism in the force or the occasional moron officer but I like to police about. There's a new training college down the road from my town.
We got drunk and camped in a field near my house when we were about 15/16 but for some reason we got bored, packed up and kind of wandered around my town. It was Summer and its a very residential area so we never caused any trouble. So we decided to go sleep on the picnic benches in my school but somebody phonned and the police came. They were very nice about it all and just told us to move after a bunch of hungover kids were trying to explain we hadn't really done anything when they could have easily thrown us into their van.
I don't mind the police, a small part of me worries about racism in the force or the occasional moron officer but I like to police about. There's a new training college down the road from my town.
Rosalind wrote:
> I play by the rules, but every time I see a police officer I feel
> guilty as if I've done something wrong and they are going to arrest
> me.
Maybe it's just that you want to be placed in cuffs...
> When I was 18 I was sat on the swings in our local park, which was
> deserted apart from the two of us, when a police officer approaced us
> and said in unfriendly manner that we were too old to be sat on the
> swings and we should get of them straight away.
>
> I've seriously never understood that, we weren't harming anyone, and
> we weren't damaging anything. Seemed like a power trip to me.
Yeah, old school policing for no reason. I've not seen any of that yet.
> I play by the rules, but every time I see a police officer I feel
> guilty as if I've done something wrong and they are going to arrest
> me.
Maybe it's just that you want to be placed in cuffs...
> When I was 18 I was sat on the swings in our local park, which was
> deserted apart from the two of us, when a police officer approaced us
> and said in unfriendly manner that we were too old to be sat on the
> swings and we should get of them straight away.
>
> I've seriously never understood that, we weren't harming anyone, and
> we weren't damaging anything. Seemed like a power trip to me.
Yeah, old school policing for no reason. I've not seen any of that yet.
I play by the rules, but every time I see a police officer I feel guilty as if I've done something wrong and they are going to arrest me.
When I was 18 I was sat on the swings in our local park, which was deserted apart from the two of us, when a police officer approaced us and said in unfriendly manner that we were too old to be sat on the swings and we should get of them straight away.
I've seriously never understood that, we weren't harming anyone, and we weren't damaging anything. Seemed like a power trip to me.
When I was 18 I was sat on the swings in our local park, which was deserted apart from the two of us, when a police officer approaced us and said in unfriendly manner that we were too old to be sat on the swings and we should get of them straight away.
I've seriously never understood that, we weren't harming anyone, and we weren't damaging anything. Seemed like a power trip to me.
I wrote a long post, but because it had the word as*es in it, I got that language screen and then having clicked on the sort it out button only to see that it had disappeared for all time.
It was a highly clever post though, that I can assure you.
This was the last sentence.
There are weaknesses in the force, as with any system, but because of the nature of our work we have to put up with a lot more because of them.
It was a highly clever post though, that I can assure you.
This was the last sentence.
There are weaknesses in the force, as with any system, but because of the nature of our work we have to put up with a lot more because of them.
Hm, police..
Hm :o)
The whole law/penalty/police system is a joke.
Bring back the death penalty and hanging. That will sort out the bullsh.. that this country lives in.
And I agree with MoJoJoJo. There are known trouble makers that get away with it. "Not enough evidence?" Yup, sounds like something they came up with.
Sorry, but for me, and millions of other people, the police need to sort it out.
Hm :o)
The whole law/penalty/police system is a joke.
Bring back the death penalty and hanging. That will sort out the bullsh.. that this country lives in.
And I agree with MoJoJoJo. There are known trouble makers that get away with it. "Not enough evidence?" Yup, sounds like something they came up with.
Sorry, but for me, and millions of other people, the police need to sort it out.
Well I've just come home from a night out in the crappiest possible suburb of Glasgow (I believe that Sheepy calls it East Kilbride or something) and I was glad that the police were trolling around outside the club. Fair proportion of absolute numpties but the police just seemed to walk past, absorbing their bs with a bemused smile. Makes a nice change from when they took me home for giving them a 'comedy' name when I was 15.
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