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Hey,
I want to network my PC and my Laptop, and i was wondering how it would be done using wires (not wireless cant afford it).
So far i know i need:
Router
PCI Network Card
PCMCIA Network Card
Ethernet Cable - I think???
How much would all of this cost (I have £100 to spend), and in the near future i am looking to hook my PS2 up to the network aswell. My Laptop is upstairs and the Pc is downstairs and i am wanting to share my adsl connection.
Both computers run WinME.
Where can i get the equipment from?
Thanks.
James
I want to network my PC and my Laptop, and i was wondering how it would be done using wires (not wireless cant afford it).
So far i know i need:
Router
PCI Network Card
PCMCIA Network Card
Ethernet Cable - I think???
How much would all of this cost (I have £100 to spend), and in the near future i am looking to hook my PS2 up to the network aswell. My Laptop is upstairs and the Pc is downstairs and i am wanting to share my adsl connection.
Both computers run WinME.
Where can i get the equipment from?
Thanks.
James
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For the time being you should get yourself a couple of USB wireless pens i have seen the 802.11b version on dabs for £22 a piece, this will save you running all the wires.
Colin
Colin
Here you go i found a piccy. The connector comin from the ethernet card looks like it is meant to fit this kind of cable, and from what you say so is the Network card, so would i be ok with this stuff?
http://www.gladiatorcomputers.co.uk/ (space) acatalog/Network_Cables.html
http://www.gladiatorcomputers.co.uk/ (space) acatalog/Network_Cables.html
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Getting an RJ11 to RJ11 isn't difficult, you get them between the
> handset and the base of a phone.
>
> But finding an RJ11 to RJ45 would be a bit more difficult and that is
> what you will need.
>
> I can't find any. Might be easier to get a new laptop card.
Well the connecter comming from the card fits the smallish plug (the type that plug into your modem) and a cable that i found with the adapter has the bigger white plug on the other end (the type thatfits into your telephone socket) Is that any help?
> Getting an RJ11 to RJ11 isn't difficult, you get them between the
> handset and the base of a phone.
>
> But finding an RJ11 to RJ45 would be a bit more difficult and that is
> what you will need.
>
> I can't find any. Might be easier to get a new laptop card.
Well the connecter comming from the card fits the smallish plug (the type that plug into your modem) and a cable that i found with the adapter has the bigger white plug on the other end (the type thatfits into your telephone socket) Is that any help?
Getting an RJ11 to RJ11 isn't difficult, you get them between the handset and the base of a phone.
But finding an RJ11 to RJ45 would be a bit more difficult and that is what you will need.
I can't find any. Might be easier to get a new laptop card.
But finding an RJ11 to RJ45 would be a bit more difficult and that is what you will need.
I can't find any. Might be easier to get a new laptop card.
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> ]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
>
> Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts
> the
> O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i
> assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as
> Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
>
> Exact same as a phone cable? Or like a phone cable but a bit bigger?
>
> You see technically a phone cable is called an RJ11, and is the same
> design as an RJ45 but smaller.
Well the one you plug into the wall doesnt fit into it, but the smaller one, like the one conected to your modem does. It just happens that i found a piece of cable with one of each plug at either end...
> ]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
>
> Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts
> the
> O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i
> assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as
> Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
>
> Exact same as a phone cable? Or like a phone cable but a bit bigger?
>
> You see technically a phone cable is called an RJ11, and is the same
> design as an RJ45 but smaller.
Well the one you plug into the wall doesnt fit into it, but the smaller one, like the one conected to your modem does. It just happens that i found a piece of cable with one of each plug at either end...
]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
> Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts the
> O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i
> assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as
> Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
Exact same as a phone cable? Or like a phone cable but a bit bigger?
You see technically a phone cable is called an RJ11, and is the same design as an RJ45 but smaller.
> Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts the
> O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i
> assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as
> Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
Exact same as a phone cable? Or like a phone cable but a bit bigger?
You see technically a phone cable is called an RJ11, and is the same design as an RJ45 but smaller.
I better clear up a minor mistake. After I mentioned wireless, I listed some routers and then said the PCMCIA card above. Which is true, you could run a wired card into the wireless routers, although it does defeat the purpose.
I meant to list this wireless PCMCIA card at £19
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51329
Which would allow the wireless 4 port router and cards and cables etc for £99 inc VAT.
I meant to list this wireless PCMCIA card at £19
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=51329
Which would allow the wireless 4 port router and cards and cables etc for £99 inc VAT.
taka-Q wrote:
> ]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
> I might as well ask here as well, i have found myself a 10/100
> (20/200)Network Card for a fiver, and already have an ethernet card
> in my laptop with some wierd connector coming out of it, jsut want
> to
> know what cables i need. The network card is this one if it helps;
>
>
> http://www.gladiatorcomputers.com/support/index.php? (space)
> page=product.php&code=NETMENPTC101TX
>
> You'll need a crossover cat5 cable with RJ45 connectors. On you
> laptop card, is the connector the same as the one for the PC? If not
> you will need a different connector (cant think what tho).
Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts the O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
> ]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
> I might as well ask here as well, i have found myself a 10/100
> (20/200)Network Card for a fiver, and already have an ethernet card
> in my laptop with some wierd connector coming out of it, jsut want
> to
> know what cables i need. The network card is this one if it helps;
>
>
> http://www.gladiatorcomputers.com/support/index.php? (space)
> page=product.php&code=NETMENPTC101TX
>
> You'll need a crossover cat5 cable with RJ45 connectors. On you
> laptop card, is the connector the same as the one for the PC? If not
> you will need a different connector (cant think what tho).
Right well the cable coming from my Laptop Ethernet card converts the O/P socket on the card to an internet/phone type connector... so i assume this is RJ45... so all i need is that cat5? Does it come as Full Duplex/Half Duplex?
First up what is your modem like? Is it a USB modem or one that connects via an Ethernet socket?
What taka was talking about when mentioning connecting them directly was using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). This is available in Windows ME, however no matter how hard I tried I never got it working in ME. The other thing to note with it is that you will need the PC which is connected to the ADSL on when you use the other one. So it isn't very flexible which is why I would got the router route.
The reason I asked about you modem was that if it was USB then you can't plug it into a router, which means you would need a router with built it modem. If it connects via ethernet (or RJ45, or whatever you want to call it) then you can get just a straight forward router without a modem.
If you have an ethernet modem all you need is a router, cables and a card for the laptop.
Router: £26.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48411
PCMCIA card: £23
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=43683
If you have a USB modem and want a router instead of ICS then you will need a network card, PCMCIA card, router with ADSL modem and cables.
Router with built in modem: £38
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48449
Network card for the PC: £2.41!
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer /products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=31095
The above PCMCIA card would be fine.
Cales. If you go for ICS then you will only need one cable, but it will need to be a crossover cable. If you go for a router you need normal cables. These are normally called CAT5e cables, with RJ45 connectors.
You can get a one metre cable for as little as 36p. You can get lengths all the way up to 30 metres easily, although you could buy a roll of cable and make a longer one yourself if you needed to. Somehow I don't think you will.
However. Wireless IS POSSIBLE for under £100.
Wireless router with built in ADSL modem and 1 port: £70
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48452
Wireless router with built in ADSL modem and 4 port switch: £77
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=56082
Wireless router with 4 port switch but NO BUILT IN ADSL MODEM: £45
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48410
This one will only work if you have an ethernet modem at present.
The PCMCIA card and network card above, and one cable to go from PC to router. That router used to be a bit cheaper, else I would have said under £100.
You can get wireless PCI cards as well obviously, but they cost more and cables are more reliable and less likely to suffer interference.
I listed two wireless routers with modems as the one port router will allow wireless for less than £100, the 4 port router will be £103. But it would allow the PS2 to go online without messing around unplugging things.
I personally can vouch for the 4 port wireless router, I have it. Been on non stop for about a month now. No problems at all.
Yes it is a lot of links, but it is so you can read up on it all.
Sorry SR, I know ebuyer is a competitor and you sell some of this stuff as well. Quazi, buy all the stuff you need from SR okay? It was JUST so you can actually see what the things are, as SR don't have much in the way of information on the stuff.
Any question just ask.
HBS: what is the laptop card?
What taka was talking about when mentioning connecting them directly was using Internet Connection Sharing (ICS). This is available in Windows ME, however no matter how hard I tried I never got it working in ME. The other thing to note with it is that you will need the PC which is connected to the ADSL on when you use the other one. So it isn't very flexible which is why I would got the router route.
The reason I asked about you modem was that if it was USB then you can't plug it into a router, which means you would need a router with built it modem. If it connects via ethernet (or RJ45, or whatever you want to call it) then you can get just a straight forward router without a modem.
If you have an ethernet modem all you need is a router, cables and a card for the laptop.
Router: £26.
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48411
PCMCIA card: £23
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=43683
If you have a USB modem and want a router instead of ICS then you will need a network card, PCMCIA card, router with ADSL modem and cables.
Router with built in modem: £38
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48449
Network card for the PC: £2.41!
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer /products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=31095
The above PCMCIA card would be fine.
Cales. If you go for ICS then you will only need one cable, but it will need to be a crossover cable. If you go for a router you need normal cables. These are normally called CAT5e cables, with RJ45 connectors.
You can get a one metre cable for as little as 36p. You can get lengths all the way up to 30 metres easily, although you could buy a roll of cable and make a longer one yourself if you needed to. Somehow I don't think you will.
However. Wireless IS POSSIBLE for under £100.
Wireless router with built in ADSL modem and 1 port: £70
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48452
Wireless router with built in ADSL modem and 4 port switch: £77
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=56082
Wireless router with 4 port switch but NO BUILT IN ADSL MODEM: £45
http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/ products/index.html?action=c2hvd19w cm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=48410
This one will only work if you have an ethernet modem at present.
The PCMCIA card and network card above, and one cable to go from PC to router. That router used to be a bit cheaper, else I would have said under £100.
You can get wireless PCI cards as well obviously, but they cost more and cables are more reliable and less likely to suffer interference.
I listed two wireless routers with modems as the one port router will allow wireless for less than £100, the 4 port router will be £103. But it would allow the PS2 to go online without messing around unplugging things.
I personally can vouch for the 4 port wireless router, I have it. Been on non stop for about a month now. No problems at all.
Yes it is a lot of links, but it is so you can read up on it all.
Sorry SR, I know ebuyer is a competitor and you sell some of this stuff as well. Quazi, buy all the stuff you need from SR okay? It was JUST so you can actually see what the things are, as SR don't have much in the way of information on the stuff.
Any question just ask.
HBS: what is the laptop card?
]-[ØM€® B€€® §ØL!D wrote:
> I might as well ask here as well, i have found myself a 10/100
> (20/200)Network Card for a fiver, and already have an ethernet card
> in my laptop with some wierd connector coming out of it, jsut want to
> know what cables i need. The network card is this one if it helps;
>
>
> http://www.gladiatorcomputers.com/support/index.php? (space)
> page=product.php&code=NETMENPTC101TX
You'll need a crossover cat5 cable with RJ45 connectors. On you laptop card, is the connector the same as the one for the PC? If not you will need a different connector (cant think what tho).
> I might as well ask here as well, i have found myself a 10/100
> (20/200)Network Card for a fiver, and already have an ethernet card
> in my laptop with some wierd connector coming out of it, jsut want to
> know what cables i need. The network card is this one if it helps;
>
>
> http://www.gladiatorcomputers.com/support/index.php? (space)
> page=product.php&code=NETMENPTC101TX
You'll need a crossover cat5 cable with RJ45 connectors. On you laptop card, is the connector the same as the one for the PC? If not you will need a different connector (cant think what tho).
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