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"Battle of the rockers : BLINK 182 vrs SUM 41 .... give me your opinion"

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Sat 15/11/03 at 20:24
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Whos better plz give me your opinion.

( NO MENTIONING "THE FAST FOOD 'ROCKERS' "
Sun 16/11/03 at 17:41
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"SOUP!"
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RoJ wrote:
> Blink 182 and Sum41 pop-punk? I think not. I would think they are
> just punk, Blink being more punk than the other.

Naw, they are punk ROCK. Punk is those rubbish 80's bands who drone about politics, and the Sex Pistols. You can't confuse Sum41 and The Sex Pistols.
Sun 16/11/03 at 18:28
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Kyz21 wrote:
> Some lyrics, especially on the latest and first albums are terrible,
> but the lyrics of "take a look around" are great and quite
> moralistic. "Life is a lesson, you learn it when you're
> through." Sure thing, chief.

WE went through this a while ago, most of the lyrics are just cliches reworded a bit to fit in a fairly meaningless song.
Sun 16/11/03 at 18:38
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"SOUP!"
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clichés from where, other songs or "morals" ?
Mon 17/11/03 at 17:39
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"Peace Respect Punk"
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RoJ wrote:
> Blink 182 and Sum41 pop-punk? I think not. I would think they are
> just punk, Blink being more punk than the other.

Kyz21 wrote:
> Naw, they are punk ROCK. Punk is those rubbish 80's bands who drone
> about politics, and the Sex Pistols. You can't confuse Sum41 and The
> Sex Pistols.

I would say they are neither punk or punk rock... If bands like the Descendents are pop-punk (as the majority of their fans would probably agree) then Blink are certainly pop-punk. You might care to disagree over Sum41, quite frankly I don't know, I haven't heard much/any of their newer material which is supposedly heavier, but when they initially 'got big' all the most popular songs were pop-punk really... Anyway, my opinion, genres mean different things to different people, the boundries between all the various sub-genres of punk have become increasingly blurred, so not much point in arguing over it anyways...
Mon 17/11/03 at 18:08
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"gsybe you!"
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As Sibs said. 'Pop' is deemed a dirty word, but I don't care. Zwan are pop-rock, and yet have far more invention and skill than any 'hardcore' rock band. Blink 182 and Sum41 are pop-punk, as they package it in a far more accessible way. Other bands like, oo, Zeke, I'd classify them as punk full on.
Mon 17/11/03 at 18:09
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"gsybe you!"
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Kyz21 wrote:
> clichés from where, other songs or "morals" ?

No, Blink and Sum41, when in reflective moods are like Limp Bizkit etc. But better. Cliche angst/pain/suffering, and while effective, not much new. So from other songs really.
Mon 17/11/03 at 18:27
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"Tornado Of Souls"
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Other songs and attitudes in general. It's just treading the same path they've trodden before. About violence/hatred etc.
Mon 17/11/03 at 18:29
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"gsybe you!"
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Oh, to quote some Durst-angst.

Haha.
Thu 20/11/03 at 16:41
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"I'm not a noob :"
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I can't believe no one has commented on Blinks new album in this thread yet. I never really liked Sum but now hearing Blinks new album it's more like Sum Forty WHO ? (that wasn't a misspelling of 'One')

Blinks old material was excellent I think but they're new heavier feel is just awesome.
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