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Hah! finally sony have become casualties of their own marketing campaign.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
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You know what I agree with defender of the fish, Plays**tation 2 was over hyped. You also cannot compare the games on the Xbox and the Ps2+ the Xbox will have a free Hard drive. To say the truth no console has ever been used to its full potential there won't be a game that will use all 66million pps in the Ps2. Unlike Xbox where it will be easier for games to use 66 or more million pps but you will find that no game will use the full potential of the Xbox. For example 50% of the Ps2 power is less than 50% of the Xbox power. That's why some coders are saying that it is hard to developed games for Ps2 as they look better on Xbox. Like Hideo Kojima San said that the Ps2 is not poxerful enough for the MGS he wants to create for it unlike the Xbox which he says that it would look like a movie.
Note: This is jus**t a theory I've made, but I think its true
When it comes to the HDdrive and internet connections. devolopers are having problems with the Ps2. What If it doesn't sell it would mean that they are developing games with internet capabilites for few people while they could have used thid time to make the game better. However this is not a problem for the Xbox as the hard drive is ready and the console is ready to be connected to the internet via braodband and developers are knowing what kind of sh*t that they are getting in to.
And also now the hype has died down so has demand the only thing that can help Sony survive the reign of the Xbox are decent titles, if Sony had enough consoles at launch they would have got very good sales because everyone wanted to play the new machine.
Another reason why I support Microsoft is that for once we have a none Japnese country Launching firs**t what I'm talking about is that Americans are going to get the console firs**t and Bill is making sure that they get enough unlike the 500,000 machines that they got on launch, to say the truth 500,000 consoles are not enough for any one s**tate in the USA. I do want Xbox to kill the Ps2.
Europe and other countries in the world had few consoles while you find someone in Japan has about five consoles in his house and so were very many of them(already the sales in Japan was over 3 million during the Uk launch, this is like showing the res**t of the world that this was a Japnese machine rather than an International console.
And I'm not talking like this because I don't have a Ps2 but because I have one in fact a launchday machine.
Note: This is jus**t a theory I've made, but I think its true
When it comes to the HDdrive and internet connections. devolopers are having problems with the Ps2. What If it doesn't sell it would mean that they are developing games with internet capabilites for few people while they could have used thid time to make the game better. However this is not a problem for the Xbox as the hard drive is ready and the console is ready to be connected to the internet via braodband and developers are knowing what kind of sh*t that they are getting in to.
And also now the hype has died down so has demand the only thing that can help Sony survive the reign of the Xbox are decent titles, if Sony had enough consoles at launch they would have got very good sales because everyone wanted to play the new machine.
Another reason why I support Microsoft is that for once we have a none Japnese country Launching firs**t what I'm talking about is that Americans are going to get the console firs**t and Bill is making sure that they get enough unlike the 500,000 machines that they got on launch, to say the truth 500,000 consoles are not enough for any one s**tate in the USA. I do want Xbox to kill the Ps2.
Europe and other countries in the world had few consoles while you find someone in Japan has about five consoles in his house and so were very many of them(already the sales in Japan was over 3 million during the Uk launch, this is like showing the res**t of the world that this was a Japnese machine rather than an International console.
And I'm not talking like this because I don't have a Ps2 but because I have one in fact a launchday machine.
If that release date is true, it goes some way to disproving the fact that PS2 is difficult to code for, don't you think?
Somebody fry that fish.
I got one not for the launch titles, but because I wanted to play PSX games, and the cool PS2 titles coming soon. I killed two birds with one stone and got a PS2 instead of a PSOne AND a PS2. As for the Dreamcast: I think it is a good console and I hope Sega brings their great games to PS2. (Note: They are, including Crazy Taxi.)
As for he X-Box, I'll get one for Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee. Damn I love that series!
I got one not for the launch titles, but because I wanted to play PSX games, and the cool PS2 titles coming soon. I killed two birds with one stone and got a PS2 instead of a PSOne AND a PS2. As for the Dreamcast: I think it is a good console and I hope Sega brings their great games to PS2. (Note: They are, including Crazy Taxi.)
As for he X-Box, I'll get one for Oddworld: Munch's Oddysee. Damn I love that series!
No other console could have done what the PS2 did... In official PS2 mag it has a developer saying they are fed up with people that know nothing about programming for PS2 say it's to hard and not really that powerful when really it is very powerful and can push games beyond limits never before accomplished...
anyway it's in the eyes of the buyer, and seeing as PS2 is getting loads of Sega games from now on thats gives the machine alot of potential...
anyway it's in the eyes of the buyer, and seeing as PS2 is getting loads of Sega games from now on thats gives the machine alot of potential...
I don't agree with defender of the fish. The PS2 was one of the most hyped game consoles ever but with good cause. The graphics processing power exceeds that of the Dreamcast, it can play DVDs to a reasonable quality (unlike the Dreamcast), it is backwards compatible (unlike the Dreamcast) and has a decent future (obviously unlike the Dreamcast).
However, I am not saying that the Dreamcast is rubbish. Far from it. For the time it was released, it had superior power over all other consoles and a half-decent line-up of games such as Crazy Taxi. The early release games for the PS2 were, as you point out, disappointing but look further to the future. In the next few months Gran Turismo 3 arrives on our shores and a while after that Metal Gear 2. These are just two of the shining symbols of hope for the PS2.
Also, recent reports have suggested that Sega will be developing for the PS2 so expect Crazy Taxi and Sonic to be popping up on a black box near you. Obviously, the Dreamcast is a good purchase in the short term (especially for £100!) but the PS2 is a better investment in the long-run. By the time X-box and Gamecube arrive here in the UK, the PS2 will have an established consumer base and great games pouring out of the seams. The way Sony handled the public in regards to pre-ordering was rather chaotic I admit, but I'm sure they didn't want to repeat the riot scenes in the Japanese stores. As for the £300 price tag: if you've got that kind of money, spend it as you will. I personally think it is a bargain for the top of the range games machine and DVD in one. Don't expect Uncle Gates to be any more caring to the shallow wallets of the British consumer. The console developers know that whilst the demand is there, they can charge damn near any price they like and a bit extra.
Only a few minor bugs have been reported in a certain batch of PS2's, not due to a fault in its design but to a dodgy batch of componants. Sony couldn't have predicted this but acted efficiently, replacing all of the faulty units. I have had my PS2 for several months (since the launch day) and I have never encountered one bug in the system. I grant you that the cooling fan in its back is a bit noisey at times, but no louder than a PCs. Also, when you're playing SSX or Timesplitters with the volume at full level, you don't notice a thing.
Anyway, all I am trying to say is that the PS2 is a good longterm investment. The X-box and Gamecube are quite a while away and until I see them working I will not accept the defeat of the PS2.
However, I am not saying that the Dreamcast is rubbish. Far from it. For the time it was released, it had superior power over all other consoles and a half-decent line-up of games such as Crazy Taxi. The early release games for the PS2 were, as you point out, disappointing but look further to the future. In the next few months Gran Turismo 3 arrives on our shores and a while after that Metal Gear 2. These are just two of the shining symbols of hope for the PS2.
Also, recent reports have suggested that Sega will be developing for the PS2 so expect Crazy Taxi and Sonic to be popping up on a black box near you. Obviously, the Dreamcast is a good purchase in the short term (especially for £100!) but the PS2 is a better investment in the long-run. By the time X-box and Gamecube arrive here in the UK, the PS2 will have an established consumer base and great games pouring out of the seams. The way Sony handled the public in regards to pre-ordering was rather chaotic I admit, but I'm sure they didn't want to repeat the riot scenes in the Japanese stores. As for the £300 price tag: if you've got that kind of money, spend it as you will. I personally think it is a bargain for the top of the range games machine and DVD in one. Don't expect Uncle Gates to be any more caring to the shallow wallets of the British consumer. The console developers know that whilst the demand is there, they can charge damn near any price they like and a bit extra.
Only a few minor bugs have been reported in a certain batch of PS2's, not due to a fault in its design but to a dodgy batch of componants. Sony couldn't have predicted this but acted efficiently, replacing all of the faulty units. I have had my PS2 for several months (since the launch day) and I have never encountered one bug in the system. I grant you that the cooling fan in its back is a bit noisey at times, but no louder than a PCs. Also, when you're playing SSX or Timesplitters with the volume at full level, you don't notice a thing.
Anyway, all I am trying to say is that the PS2 is a good longterm investment. The X-box and Gamecube are quite a while away and until I see them working I will not accept the defeat of the PS2.
Not to mention the fact that we've heard all these arguments before and time and again have these people been proven wrong.
At least make constructive and original arguments based on fact rather than Hear-say (Not the pop-group) and speculation.
At least make constructive and original arguments based on fact rather than Hear-say (Not the pop-group) and speculation.
bet if he had 300 quid he would buy one
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