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Hah! finally sony have become casualties of their own marketing campaign.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
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Hah! finally sony have become casualties of their own marketing campaign.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
The origional playstation used the theory of marketing style over substance. It worked dispite the playstation being inferior to it's competitors it had massive sales. The games were repetetive copies of each other with only a handful of titles really worth playing.
So when Sony desided to launch the PS2 they thought, well we conned all those idiots before, why can't we do it again.
Unfortunately they gave it such hype prospective gamers expected substance this time round as well as style. So when the launch titles were first seen dissapointment was heard through the streets, sure the idea of marketing the console at the supperficial masses was a good idea, but when you expect them to pay upwards of £300 for a peice of kit with faults and unrevolutionary software you thought wrong!
PS2 has sold but i doubt to the expectations of Sony, logically if you can buy a PS2 for £300 without good games available or internet play yet or a dreamcast for £100 a fantastic catalogue and net support as soon as you take it out of the box, as well as hardware capabilities to match the PS2 which would you take?
My advise is to snap up one of the Dreamcasts left around to tide you over until X-box and Gamecube.
This kind of pointless topic is the main reason why I spend less time here in the Playstation 2 forum. What an idiot.
I know ssxpro. His the person that gives the ps2 forum a bad name. That's why i tryed to make the playstation2 forum a little more interesting with my "Are we being treated unfairly by the gaming world?" topic.
I find it stupid that people still come on this PS2 forum telling us how to spend our money!!
I agree with you ssxpro - What an idiot!!
bet if he had 300 quid he would buy one
Not to mention the fact that we've heard all these arguments before and time and again have these people been proven wrong.
At least make constructive and original arguments based on fact rather than Hear-say (Not the pop-group) and speculation.
At least make constructive and original arguments based on fact rather than Hear-say (Not the pop-group) and speculation.
I don't agree with defender of the fish. The PS2 was one of the most hyped game consoles ever but with good cause. The graphics processing power exceeds that of the Dreamcast, it can play DVDs to a reasonable quality (unlike the Dreamcast), it is backwards compatible (unlike the Dreamcast) and has a decent future (obviously unlike the Dreamcast).
However, I am not saying that the Dreamcast is rubbish. Far from it. For the time it was released, it had superior power over all other consoles and a half-decent line-up of games such as Crazy Taxi. The early release games for the PS2 were, as you point out, disappointing but look further to the future. In the next few months Gran Turismo 3 arrives on our shores and a while after that Metal Gear 2. These are just two of the shining symbols of hope for the PS2.
Also, recent reports have suggested that Sega will be developing for the PS2 so expect Crazy Taxi and Sonic to be popping up on a black box near you. Obviously, the Dreamcast is a good purchase in the short term (especially for £100!) but the PS2 is a better investment in the long-run. By the time X-box and Gamecube arrive here in the UK, the PS2 will have an established consumer base and great games pouring out of the seams. The way Sony handled the public in regards to pre-ordering was rather chaotic I admit, but I'm sure they didn't want to repeat the riot scenes in the Japanese stores. As for the £300 price tag: if you've got that kind of money, spend it as you will. I personally think it is a bargain for the top of the range games machine and DVD in one. Don't expect Uncle Gates to be any more caring to the shallow wallets of the British consumer. The console developers know that whilst the demand is there, they can charge damn near any price they like and a bit extra.
Only a few minor bugs have been reported in a certain batch of PS2's, not due to a fault in its design but to a dodgy batch of componants. Sony couldn't have predicted this but acted efficiently, replacing all of the faulty units. I have had my PS2 for several months (since the launch day) and I have never encountered one bug in the system. I grant you that the cooling fan in its back is a bit noisey at times, but no louder than a PCs. Also, when you're playing SSX or Timesplitters with the volume at full level, you don't notice a thing.
Anyway, all I am trying to say is that the PS2 is a good longterm investment. The X-box and Gamecube are quite a while away and until I see them working I will not accept the defeat of the PS2.
However, I am not saying that the Dreamcast is rubbish. Far from it. For the time it was released, it had superior power over all other consoles and a half-decent line-up of games such as Crazy Taxi. The early release games for the PS2 were, as you point out, disappointing but look further to the future. In the next few months Gran Turismo 3 arrives on our shores and a while after that Metal Gear 2. These are just two of the shining symbols of hope for the PS2.
Also, recent reports have suggested that Sega will be developing for the PS2 so expect Crazy Taxi and Sonic to be popping up on a black box near you. Obviously, the Dreamcast is a good purchase in the short term (especially for £100!) but the PS2 is a better investment in the long-run. By the time X-box and Gamecube arrive here in the UK, the PS2 will have an established consumer base and great games pouring out of the seams. The way Sony handled the public in regards to pre-ordering was rather chaotic I admit, but I'm sure they didn't want to repeat the riot scenes in the Japanese stores. As for the £300 price tag: if you've got that kind of money, spend it as you will. I personally think it is a bargain for the top of the range games machine and DVD in one. Don't expect Uncle Gates to be any more caring to the shallow wallets of the British consumer. The console developers know that whilst the demand is there, they can charge damn near any price they like and a bit extra.
Only a few minor bugs have been reported in a certain batch of PS2's, not due to a fault in its design but to a dodgy batch of componants. Sony couldn't have predicted this but acted efficiently, replacing all of the faulty units. I have had my PS2 for several months (since the launch day) and I have never encountered one bug in the system. I grant you that the cooling fan in its back is a bit noisey at times, but no louder than a PCs. Also, when you're playing SSX or Timesplitters with the volume at full level, you don't notice a thing.
Anyway, all I am trying to say is that the PS2 is a good longterm investment. The X-box and Gamecube are quite a while away and until I see them working I will not accept the defeat of the PS2.
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