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It's not looking too bad, is it?
We're ranked 6th in the world.
We're fourth favourites (behind France, Italy & Portugal) to win Euro 2004.
We have arguably one of the world's best defences, a solid midfield, some very promising strikers and David James does his job very well.
England haven't lost to a European country in a competitive match under Sven.
So, will we crash out at the first hurdle like in Euro 2000 or make our first ever European final?
We're ranked 6th in the world.
We're fourth favourites (behind France, Italy & Portugal) to win Euro 2004.
We have arguably one of the world's best defences, a solid midfield, some very promising strikers and David James does his job very well.
England haven't lost to a European country in a competitive match under Sven.
So, will we crash out at the first hurdle like in Euro 2000 or make our first ever European final?
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Yes, but it was still veeeeeery long. :)
Der Nazi wrote:
> What a long post. I can't be bothered to read.
Don't blame me. It wasn't me who wrote most of it.
> What a long post. I can't be bothered to read.
Don't blame me. It wasn't me who wrote most of it.
Solskjær wrote:
> But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few
> friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether -
> just like that!
That would just be ridiculous if that happened, but I can't see it happening. (well I hope not anyway).
> But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few
> friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether -
> just like that!
That would just be ridiculous if that happened, but I can't see it happening. (well I hope not anyway).
What a long post. I can't be bothered to read it.
Solskjær wrote:
> One thing you've got to remember is that the ``Official FIFA World
> Rankings´´ don't always account for all-that-much when it
> comes to international competition - just look at how easily France
> (ranked at 2nd, if I remember correctly?) crashed-out in only the
> group-stages!
> And we all know that, really... Beckham and Owen are nothing when
> compared to Zinedine Zidane and Thierry Henry!
>
> One of the best defences? Potentially... Yes.
> Currently? No.
>
> Sol Campbell is hardly as "solid" as he used to be. He
> seems to struggle enough when it comes to clearing the ball,
> nowadays! And when he's one-on-one with a player, he tends to simply
> 'take-them-out' and recieve an instant red-card (or not...) for his
> actions!
> And as for Rio Ferdinand, who knows if he will even be eligible to
> play for England, come next year?? You know how "well" the
> FA seem to handle situations like this...!
>
> We've got 2 decent full-backs in Cole and Neville, yes, but with this
> "narrow" diamond-midfield formation Eriksson hopelessly
> persists with, it is these 2 DEFENDERS who are having to push-forward
> and give us the 'width' every-team needs to really get in-behind the
> opposition's defence.
> But, 9-times-out-of-10, we tend to lose the ball upfront because it's
> all so "wrong", and then get hit - HARD - on the
> counter-attack, with only 2 centre-backs and David
> "couldn't-catch-a-cold!" James to stop a 4-man-plus
> onslaught!
>
> That is why we have conceeded such 'foolish' goals to the likes of
> Liechtenstein. And that is why, when we're up against a team of
> Portugal or Spain, I really do not fancy our chances...!
>
>
> Unless Eriksson were to change things, of course...
> But no. This is not Claudio Ranieri here, it's Sven-Goran Eriksson -
> and when has he ever been known to change things for the better?!?
>
> For the majority of the games when he's been in-charge, the squads
> he's picked of been so-identical you could call them
> "twins" (but, obviously in a greater quantity) with the
> likes of David James, Emile Heskey and others PLAYING regularly, no
> matter how unworthy they may really be!
>
> Honestly... It's like he still thinks he's at Lazio or something;
> only with a 23-man squad of certain Englishmen, and no-one else
> available to him! Alan Smith, Jermaine Jenas and Gareth Southgate
> have all had their chances - and done very well, might I add - but
> that one, single game is all they've got out of the Swede. And then
> it's back to Lampard or Gerrard on the left, Druggie and Thuggie at
> the back with Owen and "Roonaldo" upfront.
>
> And why he sticks with David James, I do not know!
> If you ask me, an INTERNATIONAL player - especialliny a goalkeeper -
> MUST be playing regular top-flight football (like Paul Robinson and
> even Ian Walker). Division 1 is not even up to the standards of a
> Premiership 'Relegation Scrap' (as a mentioned the other day).
>
>
> He really doesn't have a clue! We were lucky Turkey were off-form on
> Saturday, otherwise we'd have been slaughtered (...not 'literally')
> like we have so-nearly by "minnows" like Liechtenstein!
>
> And as for "Love for this country like any England fan",
> how the heck can the media say he has something like this?!
> He's Swedish - not English, for crying-out-loud!!
> He doesn't really care as much as you think, and would be off the
> Chelsea like that, if only it weren't for the fact that they play
> Premiership football in England (and his reputation, of course!)!
> I believe the only reason he took the job was to boost his sinking
> reputation. At the time, Lazio were going downhill - and quite fast!
> He needed a quick-exit, and this was it for him.
>
> Taking over from the shambles of Kevin Keegan... It's not exactly
> hard to make the team look good, is it!!
>
>
>
> Oh, how I wish we HAD lost that game! How I was that Swede would just
> go to Chelsea NOW, rather than to keep me ripping my hair our for
> another year!! :@
>
> Really, I need to start an "anti-SVEN" web-site.... ;)
AND HE WROTE:
> I'm jealous because England suck? Heh. That kind of defeats your
> entire argument, you muppet!
>
> Man United don't suck - Winning `The Treble´ isn't something
> "suckers" do - so you MUST be on about England (...and
> Bristol City aren't going anywhere this season, looking at recent
> results).
>
>
> And Foreman, you make a good point.
> As much as I hate to admit it, it would be very bad for us to lose
> Eriksson, now that we have qualified for the finals in Portugal next
> year. There is no-one ready to come into the job and turn as around
> in-time. At least the Swede knows our players (or, at least, he
> should do...).
>
> I'd also like to see Steve Bruce appointed as the next England
> manager, but he could never be asked to walk-out on Birmingham, and I
> doubt anyone could hack managing both a Premiership and Top-10
> International team.
>
> So, I guess we're stuck with him, unfortunately.
> And, unless he can realise there is more to our team besides David
> Beckham and Michael Owen, I don't think we'll get past the
> quarter-finals.
>
> But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few
> friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether -
> just like that!
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Well, you were being so pesimistic about a country that has edged a very good country into the playoffs (which they'll no doubt qualify from after all our hard work - damn it).
You were trying to say something negative about every positive point I made - e.g. England 6th in the FIFA rankings - "oooo, they don't count."
Remember Euro 96 when Baddiel and that lot released 3 Lions - the nation was infected with football fever and patrioticism. England did all right that year - it does help to be positive, you know.
Even I would like to see Sven EVENTUALLY dissapear. After all, we are talking about England here, the home of football, who can't even provide a national coach bearing a matching nationality. He shouldn't just go now though. It's too important and crucial a time to do something like change the manager. Yes, maybe before the World Cup 06 qualifiers if England don't perform at Euro 2004, but imagine this on the news:
"The FA has today sacked Sven Goran Erikkson 3 days after England's heroic victory over France in Lisbon. It was Sven's bold substitution that gave England the winning goal late in the game, but the FA chairman blah blah blah..."
> One thing you've got to remember is that the ``Official FIFA World
> Rankings´´ don't always account for all-that-much when it
> comes to international competition - just look at how easily France
> (ranked at 2nd, if I remember correctly?) crashed-out in only the
> group-stages!
> And we all know that, really... Beckham and Owen are nothing when
> compared to Zinedine Zidane and Thierry Henry!
>
> One of the best defences? Potentially... Yes.
> Currently? No.
>
> Sol Campbell is hardly as "solid" as he used to be. He
> seems to struggle enough when it comes to clearing the ball,
> nowadays! And when he's one-on-one with a player, he tends to simply
> 'take-them-out' and recieve an instant red-card (or not...) for his
> actions!
> And as for Rio Ferdinand, who knows if he will even be eligible to
> play for England, come next year?? You know how "well" the
> FA seem to handle situations like this...!
>
> We've got 2 decent full-backs in Cole and Neville, yes, but with this
> "narrow" diamond-midfield formation Eriksson hopelessly
> persists with, it is these 2 DEFENDERS who are having to push-forward
> and give us the 'width' every-team needs to really get in-behind the
> opposition's defence.
> But, 9-times-out-of-10, we tend to lose the ball upfront because it's
> all so "wrong", and then get hit - HARD - on the
> counter-attack, with only 2 centre-backs and David
> "couldn't-catch-a-cold!" James to stop a 4-man-plus
> onslaught!
>
> That is why we have conceeded such 'foolish' goals to the likes of
> Liechtenstein. And that is why, when we're up against a team of
> Portugal or Spain, I really do not fancy our chances...!
>
>
> Unless Eriksson were to change things, of course...
> But no. This is not Claudio Ranieri here, it's Sven-Goran Eriksson -
> and when has he ever been known to change things for the better?!?
>
> For the majority of the games when he's been in-charge, the squads
> he's picked of been so-identical you could call them
> "twins" (but, obviously in a greater quantity) with the
> likes of David James, Emile Heskey and others PLAYING regularly, no
> matter how unworthy they may really be!
>
> Honestly... It's like he still thinks he's at Lazio or something;
> only with a 23-man squad of certain Englishmen, and no-one else
> available to him! Alan Smith, Jermaine Jenas and Gareth Southgate
> have all had their chances - and done very well, might I add - but
> that one, single game is all they've got out of the Swede. And then
> it's back to Lampard or Gerrard on the left, Druggie and Thuggie at
> the back with Owen and "Roonaldo" upfront.
>
> And why he sticks with David James, I do not know!
> If you ask me, an INTERNATIONAL player - especialliny a goalkeeper -
> MUST be playing regular top-flight football (like Paul Robinson and
> even Ian Walker). Division 1 is not even up to the standards of a
> Premiership 'Relegation Scrap' (as a mentioned the other day).
>
>
> He really doesn't have a clue! We were lucky Turkey were off-form on
> Saturday, otherwise we'd have been slaughtered (...not 'literally')
> like we have so-nearly by "minnows" like Liechtenstein!
>
> And as for "Love for this country like any England fan",
> how the heck can the media say he has something like this?!
> He's Swedish - not English, for crying-out-loud!!
> He doesn't really care as much as you think, and would be off the
> Chelsea like that, if only it weren't for the fact that they play
> Premiership football in England (and his reputation, of course!)!
> I believe the only reason he took the job was to boost his sinking
> reputation. At the time, Lazio were going downhill - and quite fast!
> He needed a quick-exit, and this was it for him.
>
> Taking over from the shambles of Kevin Keegan... It's not exactly
> hard to make the team look good, is it!!
>
>
>
> Oh, how I wish we HAD lost that game! How I was that Swede would just
> go to Chelsea NOW, rather than to keep me ripping my hair our for
> another year!! :@
>
> Really, I need to start an "anti-SVEN" web-site.... ;)
AND HE WROTE:
> I'm jealous because England suck? Heh. That kind of defeats your
> entire argument, you muppet!
>
> Man United don't suck - Winning `The Treble´ isn't something
> "suckers" do - so you MUST be on about England (...and
> Bristol City aren't going anywhere this season, looking at recent
> results).
>
>
> And Foreman, you make a good point.
> As much as I hate to admit it, it would be very bad for us to lose
> Eriksson, now that we have qualified for the finals in Portugal next
> year. There is no-one ready to come into the job and turn as around
> in-time. At least the Swede knows our players (or, at least, he
> should do...).
>
> I'd also like to see Steve Bruce appointed as the next England
> manager, but he could never be asked to walk-out on Birmingham, and I
> doubt anyone could hack managing both a Premiership and Top-10
> International team.
>
> So, I guess we're stuck with him, unfortunately.
> And, unless he can realise there is more to our team besides David
> Beckham and Michael Owen, I don't think we'll get past the
> quarter-finals.
>
> But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few
> friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether -
> just like that!
------------------------------------
Well, you were being so pesimistic about a country that has edged a very good country into the playoffs (which they'll no doubt qualify from after all our hard work - damn it).
You were trying to say something negative about every positive point I made - e.g. England 6th in the FIFA rankings - "oooo, they don't count."
Remember Euro 96 when Baddiel and that lot released 3 Lions - the nation was infected with football fever and patrioticism. England did all right that year - it does help to be positive, you know.
Even I would like to see Sven EVENTUALLY dissapear. After all, we are talking about England here, the home of football, who can't even provide a national coach bearing a matching nationality. He shouldn't just go now though. It's too important and crucial a time to do something like change the manager. Yes, maybe before the World Cup 06 qualifiers if England don't perform at Euro 2004, but imagine this on the news:
"The FA has today sacked Sven Goran Erikkson 3 days after England's heroic victory over France in Lisbon. It was Sven's bold substitution that gave England the winning goal late in the game, but the FA chairman blah blah blah..."
ThisIsAFunnyName wrote:
"solskjaer, ur wrong as always and just jealous that whoever you support SUCK"
I'm jealous because England suck? Heh. That kind of defeats your entire argument, you muppet!
Man United don't suck - Winning `The Treble´ isn't something "suckers" do - so you MUST be on about England (...and Bristol City aren't going anywhere this season, looking at recent results).
And Foreman, you make a good point.
As much as I hate to admit it, it would be very bad for us to lose Eriksson, now that we have qualified for the finals in Portugal next year. There is no-one ready to come into the job and turn as around in-time. At least the Swede knows our players (or, at least, he should do...).
I'd also like to see Steve Bruce appointed as the next England manager, but he could never be asked to walk-out on Birmingham, and I doubt anyone could hack managing both a Premiership and Top-10 International team.
So, I guess we're stuck with him, unfortunately.
And, unless he can realise there is more to our team besides David Beckham and Michael Owen, I don't think we'll get past the quarter-finals.
But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether - just like that!
"solskjaer, ur wrong as always and just jealous that whoever you support SUCK"
I'm jealous because England suck? Heh. That kind of defeats your entire argument, you muppet!
Man United don't suck - Winning `The Treble´ isn't something "suckers" do - so you MUST be on about England (...and Bristol City aren't going anywhere this season, looking at recent results).
And Foreman, you make a good point.
As much as I hate to admit it, it would be very bad for us to lose Eriksson, now that we have qualified for the finals in Portugal next year. There is no-one ready to come into the job and turn as around in-time. At least the Swede knows our players (or, at least, he should do...).
I'd also like to see Steve Bruce appointed as the next England manager, but he could never be asked to walk-out on Birmingham, and I doubt anyone could hack managing both a Premiership and Top-10 International team.
So, I guess we're stuck with him, unfortunately.
And, unless he can realise there is more to our team besides David Beckham and Michael Owen, I don't think we'll get past the quarter-finals.
But if we can't control our fans for even ONE of the next few friendlies, we could be straight-out of the tournament altogether - just like that!
I agree. Playing football aggressively is great fun!
The only downside is that you can injure people by playing aggressively. I've put people in hospital after tackling them.
The only downside is that you can injure people by playing aggressively. I've put people in hospital after tackling them.
No matter who will win.
It is the best things for football fans , so that we can watch the excellent match.
Aggressive football is wonderful.
It is the best things for football fans , so that we can watch the excellent match.
Aggressive football is wonderful.
And if England win the championship?
Solskjær wrote:
> For the majority of the games when he's been in-charge, the squads
> he's picked of been so-identical you could call them
> "twins" (but, obviously in a greater quantity) with the
> likes of David James, Emile Heskey and others PLAYING regularly, no
> matter how unworthy they may really be!
But it seems to be doing the trick. We are unbeaten in 8 or more games now. So what if we don't look like we are playing good, as long as we get the result.
> Oh, how I wish we HAD lost that game! How I was that Swede would just
> go to Chelsea NOW, rather than to keep me ripping my hair our for
> another year!! :@
>
> Really, I need to start an "anti-SVEN" web-site.... ;)
I agree that Sven should not be the manager of England, because of the simple fact he's not English, but to get rid of him now would be a VERY BAD MISTAKE.
We have just qualified for the championship, and to get rid of Sven would be very wrong. It would mean that we would have to find a new manager, who would then have to sort out the team in very little time.
We should wait until after the Championships and get someone like Steve Bruce in.
> For the majority of the games when he's been in-charge, the squads
> he's picked of been so-identical you could call them
> "twins" (but, obviously in a greater quantity) with the
> likes of David James, Emile Heskey and others PLAYING regularly, no
> matter how unworthy they may really be!
But it seems to be doing the trick. We are unbeaten in 8 or more games now. So what if we don't look like we are playing good, as long as we get the result.
> Oh, how I wish we HAD lost that game! How I was that Swede would just
> go to Chelsea NOW, rather than to keep me ripping my hair our for
> another year!! :@
>
> Really, I need to start an "anti-SVEN" web-site.... ;)
I agree that Sven should not be the manager of England, because of the simple fact he's not English, but to get rid of him now would be a VERY BAD MISTAKE.
We have just qualified for the championship, and to get rid of Sven would be very wrong. It would mean that we would have to find a new manager, who would then have to sort out the team in very little time.
We should wait until after the Championships and get someone like Steve Bruce in.
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