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Thu 25/09/03 at 22:31
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what is faster wireless connection or a standard cable. my pc is a good 20 metres from my phone line. (is there a high speed cable i can buy, if so where from?).
Sat 27/09/03 at 22:37
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You can easily, easily tell if your ADSL is running up to spec.
Sat 27/09/03 at 22:28
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and you're comparing to..?

All I know is that it is a little slower with the ext. There is a noticable difference when I just use the 3m line supplied.

What line do you have and where d'you get it.
Sat 27/09/03 at 22:03
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My ADSL comes into the house, into the main socket, through a splitter, through the living room wall, round the living room, up into parents bedroom, across parents bedroom, through bedroom wall, into my room, around my room, behing my desk and into the splitter thing. Guess what. Doesnt make a blind bit of difference.
Sat 27/09/03 at 17:12
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finally a helpfull reply. cheers mate.
Sat 27/09/03 at 16:49
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Calm it lads, it's just a piece of wire, heh.

In the shop here we have a large extension cable coming out of the ADSL enabled socket and going round the floor, up in to the ceiling then out in to the back room where it reachers the router. That's a total of at least 10 metres, probably a bit more. We have no problem whatsoever maxing out the connection, and the cable is just a standard belkin straight through telephone extension.

If you really don't want a long phone cable, you'll need to either get an ADSL router and plug that in to the wall in place of the modem, then run a long cable from that to your PC (A network cable, rj45, which will have no problems with 20m), or plug a wireless ADSL router in there and do it without a cable.
Sat 27/09/03 at 15:57
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F**k you
Sat 27/09/03 at 15:50
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at_524 wrote:
> Turbonutter wrote:
> Right just stop worrying about the speed of the cables! There's no
> way
> your cable is going to be slower than the speed of your modem.
>
> That doesn't mean a line the length of a bus won't slow it down
> considerably.


Shut up stop talking about things you have no clue about!
Sat 27/09/03 at 15:48
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at_524 wrote:
> I never made an assumption. I know for a fact that on AVERAGE the
> performance is poorer when using the ext. I dunno maybe the ext I
> have is a cheap one, maybe it's not aluminium. After all it was only
> about £7.


Well, if you know. I've found that phone wire/sockets/general hardware are extremely prone to breaking, so it might be enough to get a new wire. I'm not sure you can get 'high quality' phone wire. If you have a Maplins nearby it might be worth your while to pop in, the guys there generally know their stuff.
Sat 27/09/03 at 15:43
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Miserableman wrote:
> at_524 wrote:
> yeah but its not 20k of the bog s**tandard £10 per 20m sh*t you
> buy in the shops. And it does affect it, it adds a minute or so to
> a
> download of 10MB (with ext 10min without 8-9min) that i can accept
> but when your downloading 200-300MB it makes a bigger difference.
>
>
> This is a really bad way of measuring connection speed. A myriad of
> things affect connection performance, and measuring the time taken to
> download 10MB chunks of data is like measuring computer speed based
> on megahertz alone - there are too many other factors involved to
> assume that making your phone cable longer is responsible for a
> slower connection. The server at the other end could have been more
> heavily loaded, the connection between you and it is unlikely to have
> been along the same data paths each time, etc. Your phoneline in your
> house is about the only thing that isn't going to affect download
> speeds.

I never made an assumption. I know for a fact that on AVERAGE the performance is poorer when using the ext. I dunno maybe the ext I have is a cheap one, maybe it's not aluminium. After all it was only about £7.
Sat 27/09/03 at 15:32
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at_524 wrote:
> yeah but its not 20k of the bog s**tandard £10 per 20m sh*t you
> buy in the shops. And it does affect it, it adds a minute or so to a
> download of 10MB (with ext 10min without 8-9min) that i can accept
> but when your downloading 200-300MB it makes a bigger difference.


This is a really bad way of measuring connection speed. A myriad of things affect connection performance, and measuring the time taken to download 10MB chunks of data is like measuring computer speed based on megahertz alone - there are too many other factors involved to assume that making your phone cable longer is responsible for a slower connection. The server at the other end could have been more heavily loaded, the connection between you and it is unlikely to have been along the same data paths each time, etc. Your phoneline in your house is about the only thing that isn't going to affect download speeds.

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