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Thu 11/09/03 at 00:32
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Warning to all Kazaa users... a young girl from America's parents were fined $150,000 for each song downloaded by the girl. She issued a statement claiming she was "sorry" and "didn't wish to hurt the artists she loves so much".

In the end the case was settled out of court for a mere $2,000...

Mere? This is crap... I know some artists are dead against downloading music but I also know many bands don't give a s**t and offer downloadable songs from their very own website...

If more bands did that the better I'd say... beat the money obsessed system!
Sat 13/09/03 at 18:34
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Der Nazi wrote:
> Memorandum! wrote:
> Der Nazi wrote:
> I only buy
> albums I can't find on the net.
>
> Aren't you a loyal and supportive fan?
>
> Of Texas, Metallica, Nirvana, Black Sabbath, Rob Zombie and The
> Offspring. It's just the fact it'll cost about 34p to compile a CD at
> home. (Cost of blank CD and phone bill)

Would that be Ozzy era Sabbath, Dio era Sabbath or the Iommi Solo Project Sabbath? (It was really, don't disagree).
Sat 13/09/03 at 19:08
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Snipe® wrote:
> Yep there's always one track or more that is crap in any album.

morning glory-oasis not crap on that.
Sat 13/09/03 at 19:34
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About the RIAA, they apparently have a list of record labels that support them. Fat Wreck Chords, a label run by Fat Mike (singer/guitarist in NOFX if you know them) was on the list. They infact did not support the RIAA. It took 6 months of phone calls, letters, E-mails, etc. to get their label removed from the list.

Take from that what you will, but it seems the RIAA are desperate to seem like they have the moral high ground (ie. that all the labels artists support them) when its really a different story...
Sat 13/09/03 at 19:38
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"Tornado Of Souls"
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We need to destroy the RIAA once and for all. I'll get my coat. And plane tickets. I'm thinking we ought to get the weapons when we're over there, since that will not lead to any embarrasing or gory instances with customs.
Sat 13/09/03 at 19:39
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Der Nazi wrote:
> Memorandum! wrote:
> Der Nazi wrote:
> I only buy
> albums I can't find on the net.
>
> Aren't you a loyal and supportive fan?
>
> Of Texas, Metallica, Nirvana, Black Sabbath, Rob Zombie and The
> Offspring. It's just the fact it'll cost about 34p to compile a CD at
> home. (Cost of blank CD and phone bill)

Great. But if every 'huge fan' like yourself downloaded every album instead of buying them, it wouldn't be very long until the material dried up.* Do you see?

I buy my favourite band's albums, because I want them to make more in future.



*I suppose that isn't entirely relevant for all of those bands
Sat 13/09/03 at 19:46
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"Tornado Of Souls"
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That's exactly my thoughts Memo, but even so, if one album is absolutely rubbish, I wouldn't buy it, hopefully that would tell the band they'd done something wrong and that would force them to return to form soon or go down the plughole. Although at the moment some people would just blame bad sales on file sharing, but that would be their problem.
Sat 13/09/03 at 22:51
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The record companies are stupid, you can't stop downloading so they should just go with it and make their money from downloads. No one wants to use a credit card or anything to buy a £1 download so they should use a system similar to pay as you go mobile phones. Buy a 10 song download card in a shop for say a £5 then type in the numer and download whatver song you wnat. The most downloaded songs recieve the most money then from that. Simple.
Sat 13/09/03 at 23:38
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For a young girl

I mean this is almost as ridiculous as burglars sueing those whose homkes they break into !
Sat 13/09/03 at 23:38
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Oops

That was meant to say "homes"
Sun 14/09/03 at 01:33
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Memorandum! wrote:

> I buy my favourite band's albums, because I want them to make more in
> future.
>
>
>
> *I suppose that isn't entirely relevant for all of those bands

You miss the possible money lure here...

To download means that less printing, burning and CD's are needed... in fact to get a song on the web costs next to NOTHING... and CD's will still sell anyway just... possibly... not as much.

So downloading is free... lets say Band A does this... Band A recently did a gig that nearly sold out at The london Astoria... Band A gave out flyers that read "Download our album for FREE at www.banda.com... tell your friends"... similar ad appears in Kerrang and NME.

On their next tour they decide to do the Astoria again but due to such a massive increase in ticket sales they end up doing 2 sold out dates. They advertise their free song downloads (now with ability to "update" your album) and next time perform at Brixton Accademy...

Within 2 years... because Band A's music was free and so many people got to hear it and enjoy it... they play regular world Arena tours and headline music festivals. They create a "die hard" fan group who still buy the CD's simply because they love the band... merchandise through overprice T-shirts, hoodies and other such crap goes through the roof...

Millions is made.

That is the best way to become a HUGE band... the more fans you have the better.

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