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It may seem quite controversial to argue against animal rights but I have a raging feminist girl in my college class who argues about absolutely everything and she has pushed me to the psychological limit and provoked a bit of deep thinking on my part.
Since the dinosaurs perished and mankind became the dominant species on Earth, we have remained unchallenged. Well over 2000 years have gone by and we haven’t had a challenge to our power, a single species (namely us) has pretty much unlimited power. People talk about how intelligent dolphins and dogs are and how they are almost as clever as humans and even show human traits so should be treated equally. A few hundred years ago before the slave trade was abolished, black people were treated worse than animals despite the fact that they were in fact human.
Before the world decides to give animals all these special rights I think we need to sort out human rights before. Racial hatred is at an all time high and before animals start getting treated the same as humans, other humans need to start respecting each other and treat each other as equals.
If animals are smart enough to understand they aren’t treated equally then why don’t they go ahead and do something about it? Why, because they aren’t that smart. I am against animal cruelty for sure, I love animals and hate so see battery farming, fox hunting and animal testing going ahead but we need to develop a perspective. Our fellow man is more important than any animals. No matter how much you love your little pet hamster, a human life is more valuable.
I’m interested to listen to your views on the matter, so go on, discuss.
Since the dinosaurs perished and mankind became the dominant species on Earth, we have remained unchallenged. Well over 2000 years have gone by and we haven’t had a challenge to our power, a single species (namely us) has pretty much unlimited power. People talk about how intelligent dolphins and dogs are and how they are almost as clever as humans and even show human traits so should be treated equally. A few hundred years ago before the slave trade was abolished, black people were treated worse than animals despite the fact that they were in fact human.
Before the world decides to give animals all these special rights I think we need to sort out human rights before. Racial hatred is at an all time high and before animals start getting treated the same as humans, other humans need to start respecting each other and treat each other as equals.
If animals are smart enough to understand they aren’t treated equally then why don’t they go ahead and do something about it? Why, because they aren’t that smart. I am against animal cruelty for sure, I love animals and hate so see battery farming, fox hunting and animal testing going ahead but we need to develop a perspective. Our fellow man is more important than any animals. No matter how much you love your little pet hamster, a human life is more valuable.
I’m interested to listen to your views on the matter, so go on, discuss.
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maddmun wrote:
> Did you even read the most important part of my statement?
>
> I said that we were the only animal stupid enough to kill our own
> species, freely, just to get what they've got.
Which animals do to. Ant colonies are probably the most directly applicable example as they destroy each other for resources. As humans do.
> Sure, some animals fight for supremac, but, why exactly are we
> fighting Iraq? For needless causes. How many species do you know that
> do this?
Uhh...isn't supremacy a needless cause? Or to put it another way, aren't the wars fought by people about supremacy (in one way or another) too?
> Did you even read the most important part of my statement?
>
> I said that we were the only animal stupid enough to kill our own
> species, freely, just to get what they've got.
Which animals do to. Ant colonies are probably the most directly applicable example as they destroy each other for resources. As humans do.
> Sure, some animals fight for supremac, but, why exactly are we
> fighting Iraq? For needless causes. How many species do you know that
> do this?
Uhh...isn't supremacy a needless cause? Or to put it another way, aren't the wars fought by people about supremacy (in one way or another) too?
The sagacious one wrote:
Thus a Honey badger would be wandering
> along minding its own business and suddenly a Racoon would leap on it
> from the undergrowth and then fight for ages.
Lol that sounds like one of the fight scenes from Family Guy.
Thus a Honey badger would be wandering
> along minding its own business and suddenly a Racoon would leap on it
> from the undergrowth and then fight for ages.
Lol that sounds like one of the fight scenes from Family Guy.
I think it sums up my time here quite well.
The sagacious one wrote:
> Mr T vs Gentle Ben.
Lol =cD
> Mr T vs Gentle Ben.
Lol =cD
Insane Bartender wrote:
> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
"Spent a ridiculous amount of time pontificating the finer points of world society on, of all places, a console gaming chat forum. After a time, I became quite prone to waffling endlessly about certain things"
Gareth Rippingale
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> riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
"Spent a ridiculous amount of time pontificating the finer points of world society on, of all places, a console gaming chat forum. After a time, I became quite prone to waffling endlessly about certain things"
Gareth Rippingale
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Did you even read the most important part of my statement?
I said that we were the only animal stupid enough to kill our own species, freely, just to get what they've got.
Not many animals do this, if it's a cat fight, it could be between a house cat and a puma for all I know. They are both members of the cat family, but they are not in the same genus, so, they aren't of the same species.
Sure, some animals fight for supremac, but, why exactly are we fighting Iraq? For needless causes. How many species do you know that do this?
Now. Beg For Mercy.
I said that we were the only animal stupid enough to kill our own species, freely, just to get what they've got.
Not many animals do this, if it's a cat fight, it could be between a house cat and a puma for all I know. They are both members of the cat family, but they are not in the same genus, so, they aren't of the same species.
Sure, some animals fight for supremac, but, why exactly are we fighting Iraq? For needless causes. How many species do you know that do this?
Now. Beg For Mercy.
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight...
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Yes, chimps signed up for the space programme of their own free will.
>
>
> *nods head uncontrollably*
You see my argument is as stupid as yours.
> Yes, chimps signed up for the space programme of their own free will.
>
>
> *nods head uncontrollably*
You see my argument is as stupid as yours.
Yes, chimps signed up for the space programme of their own free will.
*nods head uncontrollably*
*nods head uncontrollably*
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Also, I've not yet come across chimps indiscriminately slaughtering
> aquatic life by testing nuclear weapons "out of harm's
> way", leaving an immediate catastrophic hole in the ecosystem,
> and damging hundreds of future generation of wildlife due to
> radiation poisoning.
Yet Chimps took an active part in the space programme, which has consequently led to the development of weapons technology and potentially projects like "Starwars"; where the proliferation of nuclear weapons will be matched with the provision of space based missle systems.
Damn dirty apes.
> Also, I've not yet come across chimps indiscriminately slaughtering
> aquatic life by testing nuclear weapons "out of harm's
> way", leaving an immediate catastrophic hole in the ecosystem,
> and damging hundreds of future generation of wildlife due to
> radiation poisoning.
Yet Chimps took an active part in the space programme, which has consequently led to the development of weapons technology and potentially projects like "Starwars"; where the proliferation of nuclear weapons will be matched with the provision of space based missle systems.
Damn dirty apes.
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