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It may seem quite controversial to argue against animal rights but I have a raging feminist girl in my college class who argues about absolutely everything and she has pushed me to the psychological limit and provoked a bit of deep thinking on my part.
Since the dinosaurs perished and mankind became the dominant species on Earth, we have remained unchallenged. Well over 2000 years have gone by and we haven’t had a challenge to our power, a single species (namely us) has pretty much unlimited power. People talk about how intelligent dolphins and dogs are and how they are almost as clever as humans and even show human traits so should be treated equally. A few hundred years ago before the slave trade was abolished, black people were treated worse than animals despite the fact that they were in fact human.
Before the world decides to give animals all these special rights I think we need to sort out human rights before. Racial hatred is at an all time high and before animals start getting treated the same as humans, other humans need to start respecting each other and treat each other as equals.
If animals are smart enough to understand they aren’t treated equally then why don’t they go ahead and do something about it? Why, because they aren’t that smart. I am against animal cruelty for sure, I love animals and hate so see battery farming, fox hunting and animal testing going ahead but we need to develop a perspective. Our fellow man is more important than any animals. No matter how much you love your little pet hamster, a human life is more valuable.
I’m interested to listen to your views on the matter, so go on, discuss.
Since the dinosaurs perished and mankind became the dominant species on Earth, we have remained unchallenged. Well over 2000 years have gone by and we haven’t had a challenge to our power, a single species (namely us) has pretty much unlimited power. People talk about how intelligent dolphins and dogs are and how they are almost as clever as humans and even show human traits so should be treated equally. A few hundred years ago before the slave trade was abolished, black people were treated worse than animals despite the fact that they were in fact human.
Before the world decides to give animals all these special rights I think we need to sort out human rights before. Racial hatred is at an all time high and before animals start getting treated the same as humans, other humans need to start respecting each other and treat each other as equals.
If animals are smart enough to understand they aren’t treated equally then why don’t they go ahead and do something about it? Why, because they aren’t that smart. I am against animal cruelty for sure, I love animals and hate so see battery farming, fox hunting and animal testing going ahead but we need to develop a perspective. Our fellow man is more important than any animals. No matter how much you love your little pet hamster, a human life is more valuable.
I’m interested to listen to your views on the matter, so go on, discuss.
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*waits for the cliched "mankind is a virus" type references courtesy of whatever Hollywood junk the poster has seen*
And the weapons are not destorying the earth you fool, people yes, earth no.
It depends on how you define better really.
If by better you mean more evolved, more technologically advanced etc.. then yes we are better than other animals.
However as you pointed out human actions are having an adverse affect on the planet, in that sense we are probably the worst thing to populate earth.
If by better you mean more evolved, more technologically advanced etc.. then yes we are better than other animals.
However as you pointed out human actions are having an adverse affect on the planet, in that sense we are probably the worst thing to populate earth.
Here's a good point for the bunny lovers - We have the right to say we are better because we can actually speak for starters, and, as cookie points out, we're rather flipping good at making stuff to kill each other, which serves to advance our technology as a whole, hence ventually improving everyones lives, providing they are still alive of course.
Whereas animals, well evolution passed most of them by or just came to a dead end.
To me, Animal Rights peoples insistence that "we have no right to say we are better than animals" is stupid, only they believe it and it just turns others off their cause because it makes the campaigners easily dismissed as one crisp short of a packet...
Whereas animals, well evolution passed most of them by or just came to a dead end.
To me, Animal Rights peoples insistence that "we have no right to say we are better than animals" is stupid, only they believe it and it just turns others off their cause because it makes the campaigners easily dismissed as one crisp short of a packet...
Right, let me ask you now, are we the only animals that can make weapons, probably, but, is that agood thing?
Think about this now, the weapons being used across the planet by humans are slowly destrying the Earth, however, no other animal makes weapons to destroy their enemies, so, we are the only ones causing it.
If we continue like this, there will be no planet left which any regular animal can survive on, which will mena, no animals, and, without animals, and no decent land to grow food on, the human race will resort to cannabalism, which will cause yet mopre sufferening until the entire planet becomes barren wasteland.
Now, are we still better than animals?
Think about this now, the weapons being used across the planet by humans are slowly destrying the Earth, however, no other animal makes weapons to destroy their enemies, so, we are the only ones causing it.
If we continue like this, there will be no planet left which any regular animal can survive on, which will mena, no animals, and, without animals, and no decent land to grow food on, the human race will resort to cannabalism, which will cause yet mopre sufferening until the entire planet becomes barren wasteland.
Now, are we still better than animals?
maddmun wrote:
> Give me one good
> reason why we're more important than any animal.
We can make weapons to kill our enemies.
> Give me one good
> reason why we're more important than any animal.
We can make weapons to kill our enemies.
Bouncer wrote:
> Deb, what you said was sort of arguing as if I was saying "yeah
> lets burn all the furry little critters and kick old people in the
> faces".
That's not the way I saw it, she's saying that it is unfair the way the human race treats animals on a whole, what actually gives us the right to say that we are more important than animals, if anything, we are the LEAST important animal on this planet. Give me one good reason why we're more important than any animal.
> Do you sincerely beleive animals should have the same
> authority as humans? Everyone has the right not to be endangered and
> to feel secure but animals don't have the intellect humans do and
> shouldnt have the same rights.
OK, so, what about this scenario,
"Bombs are about to be launched at the UK and we only have enough room for 8 million people to be saved, everyone who is a genius, you come first, as you have the intellect to be kept safe, the less intelligent people of the country do not have the intellect to have the right to be kept safe, so, we will only be saving the intelligent people".
> If some animal rights activists had
> their way, hamsters would be running for prime minister in the name
> of equality.
What the heck are you talking about, all animal rights activists want is for animals to be treated with the same dignity and respect that you would treat any regular human being with.
> Deb, what you said was sort of arguing as if I was saying "yeah
> lets burn all the furry little critters and kick old people in the
> faces".
That's not the way I saw it, she's saying that it is unfair the way the human race treats animals on a whole, what actually gives us the right to say that we are more important than animals, if anything, we are the LEAST important animal on this planet. Give me one good reason why we're more important than any animal.
> Do you sincerely beleive animals should have the same
> authority as humans? Everyone has the right not to be endangered and
> to feel secure but animals don't have the intellect humans do and
> shouldnt have the same rights.
OK, so, what about this scenario,
"Bombs are about to be launched at the UK and we only have enough room for 8 million people to be saved, everyone who is a genius, you come first, as you have the intellect to be kept safe, the less intelligent people of the country do not have the intellect to have the right to be kept safe, so, we will only be saving the intelligent people".
> If some animal rights activists had
> their way, hamsters would be running for prime minister in the name
> of equality.
What the heck are you talking about, all animal rights activists want is for animals to be treated with the same dignity and respect that you would treat any regular human being with.
*Pun not intended*
Bullseye.
Bouncer, can't we do both at the same time?
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