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Im needing a new one, what do people think of the Asus A7N8X Deluxe?
It has this stuff
- 3 x 184pin DDR-SDRAM ports (Supporting up to PC3200)
- 5 x PCI slots
- 1 x AGP Pro (4x/8x) slot
- Dual Channel DDR400 support
- 2 x UDMA133 (supports upto 4 device)
- Serial ATA150 Controller
- 6 x USB 2.0 ports
- Firewire IEEE 1394 ports
- Onboard dual 3com & Nvidia LAN
- Nvidia SoundStorm / Dolby Digital Audio
- Nivida Nforce 2 Chipset
Is it good?
It has this stuff
- 3 x 184pin DDR-SDRAM ports (Supporting up to PC3200)
- 5 x PCI slots
- 1 x AGP Pro (4x/8x) slot
- Dual Channel DDR400 support
- 2 x UDMA133 (supports upto 4 device)
- Serial ATA150 Controller
- 6 x USB 2.0 ports
- Firewire IEEE 1394 ports
- Onboard dual 3com & Nvidia LAN
- Nvidia SoundStorm / Dolby Digital Audio
- Nivida Nforce 2 Chipset
Is it good?
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19th loop complete in 1 min 2 secs.
I wish i could count that fast.
I wish i could count that fast.
Well 3DM is never accurate. Run your tests again with this: http://pw1.netcom.com/~hjsmith/Pi/Super_Pi.html
1M test.
1M test.
Turbonutter wrote:
> Yea each chip has a rated FSB - of course you don't need to run at
> this FSB, which is the whole basis of overclocking, but basically
> your average peon buys a CPU with a stated FSB and his motherboard
> then runs at that FSB.
>
> Further, each FSB has an associated speed of RAM which it is supposed
> to be run with - 333mhz FSB chips run with 333mhz RAM (PC2700) -
> because DDR RAM runs at twice the speed of the system clock.
>
> Thing is you can actually mix and match CPU FSBs with different RAM -
> I can run a 333mhz FSB chip with PC2100 (266mhz) or PC3200 (400mhz)
> or even PC3700 utilising the memorry dividers of an expensive
> motherboard like the NF7-S.
>
> However this is all a bit expert and you should really just buy RAM
> matched to your chip.
Thought so. Yes I know about mixing RAM and CPU FSB as I have the NF7-S board. I have DDR400 RAM but as its set to auto on the motherboard it runs at 333 as my CPU is an XP2800. Now people have said its best to run the memory as fast as you can and that it doesnt matter if the CPU and RAM are different FSBs. Well I did that yesterday and did a test in 3Dmark 2001 and 2003. With RAM running at 333 and CPU at 333 the tests for 3Dmark 2001 were 15740 and 3Dmark 2003 was 5462. Now running the RAM at 400 and CPU at 333 should give more performance as some have said, well 3Dmark 2001 gave 15026 and 3Dmark 2003 gave 5428. Lower using RAM at a faster speed if the CPU FSB is not the same. As I was watching TV I didnt look at most of the tests just the results but in 3Dmark 2001 on high detail dragon the end normally sees 208 fps, but running at 400 and CPU 333 it was only 194.
> Yea each chip has a rated FSB - of course you don't need to run at
> this FSB, which is the whole basis of overclocking, but basically
> your average peon buys a CPU with a stated FSB and his motherboard
> then runs at that FSB.
>
> Further, each FSB has an associated speed of RAM which it is supposed
> to be run with - 333mhz FSB chips run with 333mhz RAM (PC2700) -
> because DDR RAM runs at twice the speed of the system clock.
>
> Thing is you can actually mix and match CPU FSBs with different RAM -
> I can run a 333mhz FSB chip with PC2100 (266mhz) or PC3200 (400mhz)
> or even PC3700 utilising the memorry dividers of an expensive
> motherboard like the NF7-S.
>
> However this is all a bit expert and you should really just buy RAM
> matched to your chip.
Thought so. Yes I know about mixing RAM and CPU FSB as I have the NF7-S board. I have DDR400 RAM but as its set to auto on the motherboard it runs at 333 as my CPU is an XP2800. Now people have said its best to run the memory as fast as you can and that it doesnt matter if the CPU and RAM are different FSBs. Well I did that yesterday and did a test in 3Dmark 2001 and 2003. With RAM running at 333 and CPU at 333 the tests for 3Dmark 2001 were 15740 and 3Dmark 2003 was 5462. Now running the RAM at 400 and CPU at 333 should give more performance as some have said, well 3Dmark 2001 gave 15026 and 3Dmark 2003 gave 5428. Lower using RAM at a faster speed if the CPU FSB is not the same. As I was watching TV I didnt look at most of the tests just the results but in 3Dmark 2001 on high detail dragon the end normally sees 208 fps, but running at 400 and CPU 333 it was only 194.
Yea each chip has a rated FSB - of course you don't need to run at this FSB, which is the whole basis of overclocking, but basically your average peon buys a CPU with a stated FSB and his motherboard then runs at that FSB.
Further, each FSB has an associated speed of RAM which it is supposed to be run with - 333mhz FSB chips run with 333mhz RAM (PC2700) - because DDR RAM runs at twice the speed of the system clock.
Thing is you can actually mix and match CPU FSBs with different RAM - I can run a 333mhz FSB chip with PC2100 (266mhz) or PC3200 (400mhz) or even PC3700 utilising the memorry dividers of an expensive motherboard like the NF7-S.
However this is all a bit expert and you should really just buy RAM matched to your chip.
Further, each FSB has an associated speed of RAM which it is supposed to be run with - 333mhz FSB chips run with 333mhz RAM (PC2700) - because DDR RAM runs at twice the speed of the system clock.
Thing is you can actually mix and match CPU FSBs with different RAM - I can run a 333mhz FSB chip with PC2100 (266mhz) or PC3200 (400mhz) or even PC3700 utilising the memorry dividers of an expensive motherboard like the NF7-S.
However this is all a bit expert and you should really just buy RAM matched to your chip.
Turbonutter wrote:
> You want to buy RAM to match the speed of your FSB - which is usually
> determined by which model of chip you're using.
The FSB on the CPU? If so at least 1 person agrees with me that RAM and CPU FSB should run at the same speed.
> You want to buy RAM to match the speed of your FSB - which is usually
> determined by which model of chip you're using.
The FSB on the CPU? If so at least 1 person agrees with me that RAM and CPU FSB should run at the same speed.
You want to buy RAM to match the speed of your FSB - which is usually determined by which model of chip you're using.
The 266mhz FSB chips will do with PC2100.
The 333mhz FSB chips use PC2700
Of course that's not exactly true, but y'know.
The 266mhz FSB chips will do with PC2100.
The 333mhz FSB chips use PC2700
Of course that's not exactly true, but y'know.
Best bet on RAM imo is www.crucial.com/uk
You can look up your particular motherboard, and get RAM guaranteed to be compatible with it
You can look up your particular motherboard, and get RAM guaranteed to be compatible with it
cookie monster wrote:
> Does it matter what brand of RAM?
Some are better than others and do offer a bit better performance, but they can cost double or even more what others are even.
> Does it matter what brand of RAM?
Some are better than others and do offer a bit better performance, but they can cost double or even more what others are even.
Does it matter what brand of RAM?
Radeon 9600 Pro is a good low budget card with good performance. You will be able to get a good amount of DDR RAM for £50 or less. As your only have a 1Ghz then get 512mb of DDR400 if you can afford it, or chose some lower DDR333 or DDR266.
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