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See if any of you can answer these.
1. Terry, a great chocoholic goes to Tesco and selects £9.50 worth of mars bars from the confectionary display. He queues at the checkout, however the queues are huge and he decides he is in a hurry, walks to the front of the queue, leaves £10 on the till and walks out of the shop. He does not speak to the checkout operator who only notices him as he leaves the building. In these circumstances is Terry guilty of theft?
A) Yes – even the willingness to pay for the chocolate does not negate liability for the offence.
B) Yes – he dishonestly appropriates the chocolate when he walks past the checkout.
C) No – he has not appropriated the chocolate within the meaning of the theft Act 1968
D) No – he has not acted dishonestly in these circumstances.
2. Belldandy, a local mischievous miscreant decides to go for an afternoon shoplifting session. He walks into his local supermarket with the intention of stealing a bottle of Toilet Duck to go with his dinner. He locates said item, removes it from the shelf and discreetly slips it into his purple flairs. He then quietly struts out whilst combing his quaff.
At what point does Bell commit theft?
A) When he enters the supermarket.
B) When he lifts the bottle off the shelf.
C) When he hides the bottle.
D) When he struts out of the shop without paying.
Go on, give em a go.
1. Terry, a great chocoholic goes to Tesco and selects £9.50 worth of mars bars from the confectionary display. He queues at the checkout, however the queues are huge and he decides he is in a hurry, walks to the front of the queue, leaves £10 on the till and walks out of the shop. He does not speak to the checkout operator who only notices him as he leaves the building. In these circumstances is Terry guilty of theft?
A) Yes – even the willingness to pay for the chocolate does not negate liability for the offence.
B) Yes – he dishonestly appropriates the chocolate when he walks past the checkout.
C) No – he has not appropriated the chocolate within the meaning of the theft Act 1968
D) No – he has not acted dishonestly in these circumstances.
2. Belldandy, a local mischievous miscreant decides to go for an afternoon shoplifting session. He walks into his local supermarket with the intention of stealing a bottle of Toilet Duck to go with his dinner. He locates said item, removes it from the shelf and discreetly slips it into his purple flairs. He then quietly struts out whilst combing his quaff.
At what point does Bell commit theft?
A) When he enters the supermarket.
B) When he lifts the bottle off the shelf.
C) When he hides the bottle.
D) When he struts out of the shop without paying.
Go on, give em a go.
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English_Bloke wrote:
> So you have those thoughts about me all the time eh?
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You have *no* idea
> So you have those thoughts about me all the time eh?
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You have *no* idea
The scary thing is, she probably really does mean it.
Answers time.
For number 1 the answer is D.
For number 2 the answer is B.
For number 1 the answer is D.
For number 2 the answer is B.
English_Bloke wrote:
> For number 2 the answer is B.
But what if he's only checking the price?
> For number 2 the answer is B.
But what if he's only checking the price?
I don't understand the second one.
Surely his intentions at that point, yes, are criminal.
But he hasn't actually committed the crime of theft yet, has he?
I'd have thought when he does not pay for his item that he commits the crime.
Explain policeman sir.
Surely his intentions at that point, yes, are criminal.
But he hasn't actually committed the crime of theft yet, has he?
I'd have thought when he does not pay for his item that he commits the crime.
Explain policeman sir.
yeah. the cops can catch us out. we suck. give us more...
Black Glove wrote:
> English_Bloke wrote:
> For number 2 the answer is B.
>
> But what if he's only checking the price?
No, if you read the question he has gone in with the intent to steal it. When he picks it up he dishonestly appropriates it.
The definition of theft is:
A person is guilty of theft if he or she dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Wow, been drinking and I still remember…not just a pretty face after all.
> English_Bloke wrote:
> For number 2 the answer is B.
>
> But what if he's only checking the price?
No, if you read the question he has gone in with the intent to steal it. When he picks it up he dishonestly appropriates it.
The definition of theft is:
A person is guilty of theft if he or she dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Wow, been drinking and I still remember…not just a pretty face after all.
Black Glove wrote:
> English_Bloke wrote:
> For number 2 the answer is B.
>
> But what if he's only checking the price?
No, if you read the question he has gone in with the intent to steal it. When he picks it up he dishonestly appropriates it.
The definition of theft is:
A person is guilty of theft if he or she dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Wow, been drinking and I still remember…not just a pretty face after all.
> English_Bloke wrote:
> For number 2 the answer is B.
>
> But what if he's only checking the price?
No, if you read the question he has gone in with the intent to steal it. When he picks it up he dishonestly appropriates it.
The definition of theft is:
A person is guilty of theft if he or she dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it.
Wow, been drinking and I still remember…not just a pretty face after all.
Tomorrow children, burglary.
Azul wrote:
> The scary thing is, she probably really does mean it.
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Why is it scary?
*Ties a noose around her Azul dolly*
> The scary thing is, she probably really does mean it.
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Why is it scary?
*Ties a noose around her Azul dolly*
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